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  • Rodney 1 Apr 2014 22:17:23 1,868 posts
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    My sister in law has been saying for a while that she wants to study nutrition. She just posted on Facebook that she has enrolled on a course to train as a naturopath.

    I want her to do well but naturopathy is an industry I would prefer didn't exist.

    when she tells me in person, how do I react? Telling her that I think naturopathy is bullshit is a dick thing to do because it is obviously something she has an interest in but I don't think I can quite bring myself to lie and encourage her.


    I also wonder if she knows how unscientific naturopathy is. Maybe she doesn't realize naturopths use homeopathy and iridology. But would bringing this up make me a bit of an ass hole shitting on her ambitions
  • Carlo 1 Apr 2014 22:20:11 17,996 posts
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    @Rodney Send her this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA6rUU0K9xE

    PSN ID: Djini

  • monkehhh 1 Apr 2014 22:22:38 3,294 posts
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    Lend some science books and programmes? Copy of Ben Goldacre's Bad Science?
  • Rodney 1 Apr 2014 22:31:05 1,868 posts
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    @Carlo

    'we can cross out the mass part'. How can someone be so wrong on so many levels
  • Rodney 1 Apr 2014 22:34:54 1,868 posts
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    @monkehhh

    I thought about gently nudging her with something like that. The problem is, I think doing anything like that would be seen as quite arrogant and negative.

    on the other hand I don't think bullshit should be indulged out of politeness and if she ever tries giving me or my daughter health advice I will tell her to keep it to herself.

    Edited by Rodney at 22:37:15 01-04-2014
  • Psychotext 1 Apr 2014 22:41:59 53,939 posts
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    Talk to your brother about it?

    Frankly I'd call her on it without a seconds hesitation, but my family would expect that from me.
  • Rodney 1 Apr 2014 22:45:30 1,868 posts
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    I found an Australian Commission Inquiry report online which gives a fairly good overview of Naturopathy in Australia (where we live). It doesn't hold any punches in describing the poor standards in naturopathic colleges and pointing out the lack of a scientific basis for many naturopathic practices.

    Its a fairly objective source so I'm thinking of forwarding it to her and saying something along the line. 'I think you should read this because it gives a fairly good objective of naturopathy. I would hate for you to waste time, effort and money to study something only to find out its not for you'.

    reasonable?

    problem is she already sees naturopaths regularly so she may already have bought into it emotionally. Maybe I should just let it go.
  • Kostabi 1 Apr 2014 22:49:20 4,906 posts
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    Once someone is invested in things like this it's akin to telling a Christian God doesn't exist.

    You're going to feel like you're helping in the long run but ultimately it's going to make no difference so why not just tow the polite party line and save yourself some grief.
  • FWB 1 Apr 2014 22:50:43 44,223 posts
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    Sounds like she's got her mind made up and rejected empiricism, so there's nothing you can provide her in evidence that will convince her. Rationalism has gone out the window. Let her waste her time if it makes her happy. And there's always the placebo effect.

    If you really want to throw the articles her way do so, but don't follow it up after that.

    Edited by FWB at 22:51:29 01-04-2014
  • Rodney 1 Apr 2014 22:55:08 1,868 posts
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    @Psychotext

    I think they would expect it from me too. That side of the family see me as quite closed minded because I rejected my mother in law's homeopathic remedies when my daughter was sick (she's a nurse so the consensus was she would know better than me). I also didn't get my daughter christened and they are quite strong Catholics. I don't normally say anything when they talk about this stuff but when it comes to family's health I won't indulge them
  • FWB 1 Apr 2014 22:57:55 44,223 posts
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    Oh god, homeopathy...

    Not all those in the medical profession are scientific minded.
  • Rodney 1 Apr 2014 23:02:09 1,868 posts
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    Yeah. I think you are right, once someone has emotionally invested in an idea its difficult to sway them with evidence. Particularly if it 'works for them'. Pisses me off l, every time she comes round she's got a new naturopath diagnosed food intolerance. Makes cooking for her a pain. Sometimes I put in a bit of flower into something without telling her. I win.
  • Psychotext 1 Apr 2014 23:05:50 53,939 posts
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    Gluten this bitch!
  • Nexus_6 3 Apr 2014 13:42:31 3,876 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Whats the sex name for when you get a woman to fart in your face? Whatever it is, stop doing that.
    After 4 days of intense research, and ruining the thought of pretty much every pastry treat you can get, best I can come up with is....drumroll.....



    danish pastry?

    Edited by Nexus_6 at 13:43:43 03-04-2014
  • Mr_Sleep 3 Apr 2014 15:07:15 16,933 posts
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    I would have thought something dutch related would have made more sense. Dutch mist?

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • Deckard1 3 Apr 2014 15:11:02 27,695 posts
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    Korean fudge biscuit

    Hush you ponce

  • Nexus_6 3 Apr 2014 15:17:49 3,876 posts
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    ooops - wrong bloody link!

    try this:

    Danish pastry
  • nickthegun 3 Apr 2014 15:18:08 59,429 posts
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    Nexus_6 wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    Whats the sex name for when you get a woman to fart in your face? Whatever it is, stop doing that.
    After 4 days of intense research, and ruining the thought of pretty much every pastry treat you can get, best I can come up with is....drumroll.....



    danish pastry?
    Im more pleased than I should be that this has been weighing on your mind for so long.

    ---------------------------------------------------------
    He totally called it

  • neilka 3 Apr 2014 15:21:47 15,848 posts
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    The Yorkshire Gobstopper
    Poirot's Last Regret
    Gammon and Pineapple

    A map is like comparing velocity and speed.

  • Nexus_6 3 Apr 2014 15:22:41 3,876 posts
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    Ha, I should be ashamed...

    Also, never ever ask what a 'chocolate twist' is. :-D
  • Deckard1 3 Apr 2014 15:33:08 27,695 posts
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    Alabama hot pocket is my favourite maneuver name

    Hush you ponce

  • Megapocalypse 4 Apr 2014 10:44:48 5,385 posts
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    I've had enough of this smog now. It's like breathing through a mask and constantly feeling dirty.
  • Deckard1 4 Apr 2014 10:45:42 27,695 posts
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    Like being fat then

    Hush you ponce

  • Alastair 4 Apr 2014 11:03:50 15,603 posts
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    Megapocalypse wrote:
    I've had enough of this smog now. It's like breathing through a mask and constantly feeling dirty.
    I haven't noticed any difference. I must have super-powerful lungs.

    Not as nice as I used to be

  • sport 4 Apr 2014 11:07:14 12,690 posts
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    Alastair can suck a ping-pong ball through a hosepipe.
  • Alastair 4 Apr 2014 11:15:37 15,603 posts
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    I have many talents.

    Not as nice as I used to be

  • Load_2.0 4 Apr 2014 11:16:27 19,139 posts
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    Whats the sex name for when you get a woman to fart in your face?
    Megapocalypse wrote:
    I've had enough of this smog now. It's like breathing through a mask and constantly feeling dirty.
    :(
  • mrpon 4 Apr 2014 11:34:24 28,749 posts
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    sport wrote:
    Alastair can suck a ping-pong ball through a hosepipe.
    ping-pong is the name of his transexual thai bride.

    Give yourself 5 or gig, you're worth it.

  • RedSparrows 4 Apr 2014 12:07:42 22,274 posts
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    Carlo wrote:
    @Rodney Send her this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA6rUU0K9xE
    The universe's entire mass is the size of a bowling ball?

    Wh...
  • RedSparrows 4 Apr 2014 12:07:42 22,274 posts
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