Understanding Broadband Speeds???

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  • freaxgamer 4 Feb 2013 11:45:26 1,604 posts
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    I am asking this question because I am confused as to why my download speed is slower than my actual speed tests. I am suppose to be downloading @ 38.7 Mbs (according to speed tests, but only down @ 2Mbs (875Kbs @ Peak Times) when I use Steam, Origin, and UPlay....However, whenever I buy game from GAME and download it, I can download at roughly 35Mbs. Do Steam, Origin & UPlay cap your download speed?

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  • nickthegun 4 Feb 2013 11:51:03 59,487 posts
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    Just to clarify, you think that because you get a speed of 35mb, you think your download speed should be 35mbs?

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  • freaxgamer 4 Feb 2013 11:57:02 1,604 posts
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    not exactly...I'm just curious as to why I download @ 35Mbs when I download from the GAME store, but Download & 2Mbs from everywhere else.

    If they offer these speed, why can you not download at the speeds your supposedly getting.

    Whenever I go to a speed test website, I get 38.7Mbs Download & 1.2Mbs Upload (Average)

    Basically, do you get what you pay for from your providers?
  • Deckard1 4 Feb 2013 11:58:36 27,718 posts
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    A lot more things need to be taken into account than just your sync speed. It's the Internet. But yeah 2meg on steam seems low.

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  • Dougs 4 Feb 2013 11:59:44 67,191 posts
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    Don't get your bits and Bytes muddled up now....

    Edit: IIRC, Steam displays speed in MB, not Mb.

    Edited by Dougs at 12:01:32 04-02-2013
  • nickthegun 4 Feb 2013 12:01:56 59,487 posts
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    Yeah, bits and bytes. Im on a 60mb connection and get 6mb down.

    On my 6mb connection I use to get 600kb down.

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  • Dirtbox 4 Feb 2013 12:03:38 77,708 posts
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    http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/basicnetworking/f/bitsandbytes.htm

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  • freaxgamer 4 Feb 2013 12:09:22 1,604 posts
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    OK....GAME (Direct2Drive) 35Meg Download, Steam, Origin & UPlay 2Meg Download (General Downloads ie Microsoft Updates, or Game Patches Download at various speeds anything from 2Meg to 30Meg).

    For Example, I bought Mass Effect from GAME and that Downloaded @ 35Megebytes Per Second. Took roughly 35mins. I downloaded Skyrim from Steam and that took 4 hours @ 2Megabytes per second.


    Do get what I am saying?
  • Buztafen 4 Feb 2013 12:12:20 16,176 posts
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    Do you have anything like Peerblock running?
  • Deckard1 4 Feb 2013 12:13:14 27,718 posts
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    So you're saying you get 2meg from game downloads? On Mass Effect? Have you tried Mass Effect 2 on steam? What kind of speeds you getting on that?

    Hush you ponce

  • Buztafen 4 Feb 2013 12:14:20 16,176 posts
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    Also read this.
  • Buztafen 4 Feb 2013 12:17:02 16,176 posts
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    And this.
  • freaxgamer 4 Feb 2013 12:19:28 1,604 posts
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    Don't use any kind peerblock of software.

    @Deckard1 - What I mean is if I buy a Game from Steam, Origin or UPlay it take forever to download. Anywhere else ie GAME or DIRECT2DRIVE (Any other format of a Digital Download for a PC Game or Film Stream from Lovefilm, it is done in mere minutes.
  • nickthegun 4 Feb 2013 12:19:38 59,487 posts
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    freaxgamer wrote:
    (General Downloads ie Microsoft Updates, or Game Patches Download at various speeds anything from 2Meg to 30Meg).
    No they dont.

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  • PearOfAnguish 4 Feb 2013 12:20:12 7,203 posts
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    Who's your ISP? Some of them have overzealous traffic management.

    Also, try deleting the ClientRegistry.blob file from Steam, then load up Steam and wait for it fix itself. This can sometimes improve slow downloads.
  • freaxgamer 4 Feb 2013 12:20:47 1,604 posts
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    @Buztafen - Thank you that helped with STEAM but what about everything else...lol
  • neilka 4 Feb 2013 12:22:43 15,849 posts
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    freaxgamer wrote:
    For Example, I bought Mass Effect from GAME and that Downloaded @ 35Megebytes Per Second.
    I still think you're getting your bits and bytes mixed up mr. xgamer.

    A map is like comparing velocity and speed.

  • freaxgamer 4 Feb 2013 12:22:51 1,604 posts
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    I use Talk Talk, BT was to expensive
  • Fake_Blood 4 Feb 2013 12:23:10 4,169 posts
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    No way are you getting 35 fucking megabytes a second down from game.
    That would mean you have a 280 megaBIT line.
    You probably have 3.5 megabytes down which translates to 28 megabit which is normal.
  • PearOfAnguish 4 Feb 2013 12:24:19 7,203 posts
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    neilka wrote:
    freaxgamer wrote:
    For Example, I bought Mass Effect from GAME and that Downloaded @ 35Megebytes Per Second.
    I still think you're getting your bits and bytes mixed up mr. xgamer.
    Yeah, you're not getting a 35 megabyte download on a 35 megabit link.


    And remember that your connection is only part of it - if the server you're downloading from is busy or doesn't have a phat pipe then your download speed will be slower.
  • freaxgamer 4 Feb 2013 12:24:29 1,604 posts
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    @neilka mme think so too.....getting to old for this, lol
  • Cannon_Fodder 4 Feb 2013 12:24:37 216 posts
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    @freaxgamer You need to be clearer on your speeds as it sounds like you're just getting in a bit of a muddle.

    You stated that you downloaded Mass Effect at 35 Megabytes per second. That would mean you have a 280Mb (Megabit) connection. For residential broadband, I very much doubt that is the case. I take it from this that you actually meant you downloaded with your full connection speed of 35 Megabits which would give you a top speed give or take of 4.4 MB (Megabytes!) a second.

    On this, your steam download does seem a little slow. I too have issues with my current ISP (Virgin Media) peaktime but that's neither here nor there.

    Hope I'm not treading on toes here as I'm just trying to be helpful, but remember in terms of download speeds they are not marketed by ISPs as "MEGABYTES PER SECOND", they are often "MEGABITS PER SECOND". So say you take out a contract with Virgin and you opt for the 100 Mb option (100 Megabits) your actual download speed would be around 12.5 MB's a second.

    I believe by default steam shows downloads in Megabytes as mentioned above.

    Edited by Cannon_Fodder at 12:25:10 04-02-2013

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  • PearOfAnguish 4 Feb 2013 12:26:33 7,203 posts
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    freaxgamer wrote:
    I use Talk Talk, BT was to expensive
    TalkTalk uses traffic management weekdays 6pm to Midnight. Try it after midnight and see if there's any difference.
  • nickthegun 4 Feb 2013 12:27:25 59,487 posts
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    Or to, once again, put it in very, very simple terms which he probably wont understand:

    Your download speed should be 1/10th of your stated connection speed.

    I know, I know... fractions is hard...

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  • Deckard1 4 Feb 2013 12:34:21 27,718 posts
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    Have you tried mass effect 2? What speeds are you getting?

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  • Cannon_Fodder 4 Feb 2013 12:39:03 216 posts
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    @nickthegun Well that's just wrong.

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  • munki83 4 Feb 2013 12:39:40 1,412 posts
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    Why dont you go to a speedtest site and post the results here. I think there is a way to change the server steam looks at for downloads try a diffrent one and see if that makes a difference. Also check if you have a download limit it could be taht you downlaoded mass effect superfast then reached your limit
  • Sponz 4 Feb 2013 12:48:53 648 posts
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    Megabytes are displayed as MB
    Megabits are displayed as Mb (note the lower case B)

    There are 8 bits to 1 Byte.

    So for example, you have an ADSL2 connection with a theoretical speed of 24Mbps (twenty four megabits per second)- and you divide that by 8:

    24Mbps / 8bits = 3MBps (three megabytes per second)
  • nickthegun 4 Feb 2013 12:49:05 59,487 posts
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    Cannon_Fodder wrote:
    @nickthegun Well that's just wrong.
    What is? That, as a rule of thumb you will generally get around 1/10th of your stated download speed? How do you work that out?

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  • freaxgamer 4 Feb 2013 12:55:57 1,604 posts
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    I've got my wires crossed....when they Advertise on TV Your Download Speeds upto 50Mbs, I was having a Blonde Moment, and Thought I would be DOWNLOADING at 35Megabytes Per Second....DUH!!

    Bloody word play, I never used to fall for it all them years ago.

    Then again, could be worse.....we could still be using 28.8k Dial Up.....lol
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