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Pepsipop wrote:Grooverider who had a weekly show on Radio 1 making him one of the most identifiable faces in DnB/Jungle? I imagine they weren't too concerned about his beat-matching when they gave him the show.
Your mixing point in valid in certain genres, the djs you mentioned were good but not really my thing. Back when I was djing it was jungle and garage that were the thing and if you couldn't beat match with skill would not get far.
For example average mixers, grooverider, Bryan gee, ray Keith where never quiet as highly regarded as say Andy c, zinc, Randall, Kenny Ken, hype etc.
Just depends on the genre like we said.
nickthegun wrote:Agreed. You put it far more succinctly than I could!
Your problem is that the audience doesn’t give a shit. You stick a laptop DJ and a Vinyl DJ next to each other, the crowd wont care as long as the tunes come and the make it sound interesting.
ISmoke wrote:Warhead? Bambaata? 98 jungle for the win. Still love hearing those tracks get played out now. When Friction draws for "The Nine" it still sounds fresh.Pepsipop wrote:Both worth it though!I love bringing Bambaata in with all the animal noises, the amens and the general jungley sound and feel... Ah... the days when producers still made
Vinyl feels much better to, cueing it up, scratching and the rewind followed by some quick needle work.but yes, it is costly, too costly. I remember going into the record store and paying over ten for certain dubs like warhead or bambaata. That is silly money when you are young for a single.
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MrTomFTW wrote:I used to work with one who left the job and is now pulling down a viable wage every month with a big bump in the summer in the festivals. I suspect a lot of it these days is knowing how to sell yourself via social media and getting in with the right promoters. Still, he's proof it's still possible.
I work with 2 DJs. They're both about as successful as you'd expect.
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boo wrote:True, but then I'd query your choice of cake... why did you go any buy that cake, what about you knowledge of baking history, what are you bringing to the table that is unique and interesting that makes me want this cake over what someone else has bought.
I can go into a supermarket and buy a cake, but it doesn't make me Mr Kipling!
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nickthegun wrote:BS.
Your problem is that the audience doesn’t give a shit. You stick a laptop DJ and a Vinyl DJ next to each other, the crowd wont care as long as the tunes come and the make it sound interesting. Its like that idiot the other day complaining that a book isn’t a book unless its printed on paper. The beat matching isn’t the talent, the talent is selecting tunes in a fresh and interesting way. Like, for example, I read an interview with Sister Bliss (a trained pianist) many moons ago that said something like she plays sets in certain keys to suit the acoustics of the venues and that it was a shame more DJs weren’t musicians because there was more to it than matching beats, you had to match the music too.
So, yeah, in summary, it doesn’t matter unless its turntablism. I remember watching DJ Marky play a turntable like a guitar but 99% of D+B DJs could easily stick a mix tape on and have a cup of coffee.
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boo wrote:Do you ever go to a restaurant? Why bother when you could just cook at home? After all, you can buy all the same ingredients that a chef has access to
DJs.
People who expect some sort of credit for playing music that other people have created.
I don't understand why they're revered at all.
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anthonypappa wrote:News for you Carl cox played the arches recently.my mate was also djing says Carl cox turned up with 4 premixed cds the rest was showmanshipnickthegun wrote:BS.
Your problem is that the audience doesn’t give a shit. You stick a laptop DJ and a Vinyl DJ next to each other, the crowd wont care as long as the tunes come and the make it sound interesting. Its like that idiot the other day complaining that a book isn’t a book unless its printed on paper. The beat matching isn’t the talent, the talent is selecting tunes in a fresh and interesting way. Like, for example, I read an interview with Sister Bliss (a trained pianist) many moons ago that said something like she plays sets in certain keys to suit the acoustics of the venues and that it was a shame more DJs weren’t musicians because there was more to it than matching beats, you had to match the music too.
So, yeah, in summary, it doesn’t matter unless its turntablism. I remember watching DJ Marky play a turntable like a guitar but 99% of D+B DJs could easily stick a mix tape on and have a cup of coffee.
/serious answer
you think carl cox could rock the place if he was huddled over a laptop?! hell naw!!
crowd interaction. it's a thing.
also, many dj's play in key when building a set.
WoodenSpoon wrote:Track selection isn't a piece of piss. We used to keep a list of interesting combinations up on the wall, though you still had to remember where the best mix was in the track. I do remember the days of browsing Section 5 very fondly, especially when they'd pass you a promo of something you'd been impatiently waiting for having heard it at the leisure lounge and on Grooverider and Fabio's radio show.
Beatmatching is a skill; whereas selecting tracks is piss easy if you own a pair of ears.
The DJ's definitely dead except in a few niche circles.
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