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TarickStonefire wrote:Not a tech company, but Toyota. They have so many patents (and in Japanese) that everyone else is scared to death to try anything with them.
If you could just point out on the chart which major tech company isn't suing another major tech company for something that most normal people think is utterly ridiculous, please?
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I've been waiting for a decent Mac Pro revision (yes, the tower machine, not the Fisher Price VHS/DVD combo imacs) for 4 years. If it doesn't appear soon I'm going to switch to a PC or Hackintosh, as I desperately need it for work.
UncleLou wrote: I don't mind people being clueless about what's going on in the world of patent infringement, I just wish they'd stop having a vocal opinion about it. It just makes them look so foolish.This is it for me too, I look at what's going on with patents and it's just a minefield that no single opinion can ever really hope to straddle objectively. For one thing I do totally believe that if you come up with a really cool way of doing something, it's shitty when another company goes, "aye aye, that's way better than our shitty method, we're having it wholesale" and then makes out like it's all their own work. But at the same time there aren't that many entirely new processes out there that really deserve that sort of protection, especially when it comes to software design. And of course hat's not really how a lot of patents are being used anyway.
nickthegun wrote:Hence vocal minority. Personally I find it hard to read Daring Fireball without getting a nosebleed.TarickStonefire wrote:Its also massive bullshit. Apples audience is now so broad all the old, lazy stereotypes dont really apply to it. The only reason people complain like this about apple is because they cant afford their products.Steve_Perry wrote:That appears to be the reason for a sizeable chunk of the hate. It's kind of pathetic as a reason to 'hate' a company.
I wouldn't hate apple half as much if it wasn't for the scientology esque ramblings of a vocal minority of their customers. Die apple hipsters. Die.
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kalel wrote:I agree about Nike, because shoes are fashion and fashion changes. But I had a think about Coke, and I'd say all they really do, and need to do, is keep producing new adverts. Now that's a big business, but that's why Coke is run by advertising people and not product people.
Longer term though, nobody is safe. Giants of industry can topple extremely quickly if they fail to read the writing on the wall as we've seen a lot of recently, and Apple are in absolutely no way invincible. Literally no brand is - even the likes of Coke and Nike who appear to be evergreens put incredible amounts of work into keeping their position.
Be interesting to see how this new Apple smart television thing is going to go down.
TarickStonefire wrote:He's talking about RIM which you'd know if you weren't too distracted looking for an Apple defenceAargh. wrote:Sure you don't mean that growth has slowed? Sales collapsing is so far from anything I've seen them report in the last couple of quarters that I maintain you are just looking for an Apple fight.
What do you mean since when? The company was valued at 80bn and is now 8bn and sales have collapsed. That, in the business world, is the same ballpark.
If you weren't, you wouldn't be using such emotive and misleading and innacurate buzzy phrases like "their sales collapsed". Jesus, it's like you believe that if you wish hard enough and long enough and get enough people to join in, you can will them to an early grave.
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TarickStonefire wrote:They use them for proper creative work, not looking at Facebook and lolcats.jablonski wrote:
I've been waiting for a decent Mac Pro revision (yes, the tower machine, not the Fisher Price VHS/DVD combo imacs) for 4 years. If it doesn't appear soon I'm going to switch to a PC or Hackintosh, as I desperately need it for work.
I've always been happy with the power of the iMacs, personally, so I guess it depends on what you do (although that's still no reason to superciliously dismiss iMacs as Fisher Price toys), but I read the reason the Mac Pro has gone so long it may as well have died completely is that there hasn't been an appropriate upgrade to the chip family it uses that would warrant a redesign?
But then like I say I don't even know what people use them for (that's not a criticism, I genuinely don't know how they are used and what they are needed for) so I don't know how valid a reason that is.
Mr-Brett wrote:I know its not the point that being made but RIM was an entirely different gravy. They had a single product portfolio that they steadfastly refused to change.
He's talking about RIM which you'd know if you weren't too distracted looking for an Apple defence
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nickthegun wrote:Premiere are picking up the customers surprisingly.
Since they gimped final cut, avid must be rubbing their hands together.
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nickthegun wrote:And this is where I think they are missing a trick.
The pro can have a decent refresh. It could easily have new logic board architecture, a new set of ports at the front, a new range of graphics cards running in sli....
They have just left the machine to rot as they are no longer even a little interested in the professional market.
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tincanrocket wrote:Lion Server is a good example of the approach they are taking. if you look on the app store Lion Server has loads of five star reviews from n00bs saying 'omg! I cant believe its so easy to set up a server!' and loads of one star reviews from IT professionals saying 'omg! I cant believe they gimped their server software!'.
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TarickStonefire wrote:There's so much more to it than this, and and Coke is in no way run by advertising people. They have an extremely aggressive acquisition policy as well as their own R&D, and constantly release new brands and products to keep the company at the top - energy and sports drinks, health drinks, water etc etc.
I agree about Nike, because shoes are fashion and fashion changes. But I had a think about Coke, and I'd say all they really do, and need to do, is keep producing new adverts. Now that's a big business, but that's why Coke is run by advertising people and not product people.
MrTomFTW wrote:IIRC Blackberrys use a modified version of Android anyway and it's relatively easy to get Android apps running on them.
Speaking of RIM I seem to remember reading the next release of the BlackBerry Enterprise Server software will support Android phones, not just BlackBerry handsets.
Seems RIM have realised there's a market for companies who want encrypted, secure mobile email solutions but don't want their shitty handsets.
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kalel wrote:Unless you travel the third world you don't understand the scale of the coke brand. it's when you travel around South Africa, Nigeria, some parts of the Caribean and Romania that you see just how incredibly aggressive they are with their advertising. Most cafes and small shops are just branded coke with just a little personalised bit in the corner.TarickStonefire wrote:There's so much more to it than this, and and Coke is in no way run by advertising people. They have an extremely aggressive acquisition policy as well as their own R&D, and constantly release new brands and products to keep the company at the top - energy and sports drinks, health drinks, water etc etc.
I agree about Nike, because shoes are fashion and fashion changes. But I had a think about Coke, and I'd say all they really do, and need to do, is keep producing new adverts. Now that's a big business, but that's why Coke is run by advertising people and not product people.
Beyond that their provider contracts with the likes of McDonalds and Burger King, Cinema chains etc etc are a crucial part of staying on top.
And that's just scratching the surface of what they do. So so much more than just producing adverts.
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