How long before Apple die? Page 6

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  • nickthegun 31 Jan 2013 11:54:38 60,452 posts
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    The facebook app is 10000x (approx) better on the iPhone than android.

    Same with a lot of apps really, the android one seems like an afterthought. The Android version of Auto Trader being a prime example.

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  • disusedgenius 31 Jan 2013 12:06:33 5,423 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    People are invested in a brand now, and those brands will want to limit the reasons to switch as much as possible, and they will do that by making it so that they're all so similar, there's no point.
    More than brands it's about the services - I would have happily switched to a Windows phone, just not at the expense of being able to access my Google stuff as easily.
  • TarickStonefire 31 Jan 2013 13:10:09 3,240 posts
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    kalel wrote:
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    I agree about Nike, because shoes are fashion and fashion changes. But I had a think about Coke, and I'd say all they really do, and need to do, is keep producing new adverts. Now that's a big business, but that's why Coke is run by advertising people and not product people.
    There's so much more to it than this, and and Coke is in no way run by advertising people. They have an extremely aggressive acquisition policy as well as their own R&D, and constantly release new brands and products to keep the company at the top - energy and sports drinks, health drinks, water etc etc.
    Fair points, I had no idea Coke was into all that other stuff really. The basic cola drink is poison, I don't have much interest in it. Thanks for the brief education in the variety of other merciless ways they try to fool people into paying for sugar water!

    Any Netflix library in the world for a couple of quid a month? Gimme!

  • Gland 31 Jan 2013 13:11:14 78,449 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    People are invested in a brand now, and those brands will want to limit the reasons to switch as much as possible, and they will do that by making it so that they're all so similar, there's no point.
    Its the same with windows and OSX but, yeah, its a grab cycle. One company does something that becomes the defacto standard and the other one apes it. Like the notification bar.

    Its hard to imagine a phone without it but it took apple ages to implement it properly.
    I dunno how you can say that itunes is doing something properly.

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  • TarickStonefire 31 Jan 2013 13:20:51 3,240 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    People are invested in a brand now, and those brands will want to limit the reasons to switch as much as possible, and they will do that by making it so that they're all so similar, there's no point.
    Its the same with windows and OSX but, yeah, its a grab cycle. One company does something that becomes the defacto standard and the other one apes it. Like the notification bar.

    Its hard to imagine a phone without it but it took apple ages to implement it properly.
    I dunno how you can say that itunes is doing something properly.
    I dunno how you can say that you dunno how he can say that itunes is doing something properly. I looked and I didn't see him say it...?

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  • kalel 31 Jan 2013 14:01:26 88,419 posts
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    TarickStonefire wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    TarickStonefire wrote:
    I agree about Nike, because shoes are fashion and fashion changes. But I had a think about Coke, and I'd say all they really do, and need to do, is keep producing new adverts. Now that's a big business, but that's why Coke is run by advertising people and not product people.
    There's so much more to it than this, and and Coke is in no way run by advertising people. They have an extremely aggressive acquisition policy as well as their own R&D, and constantly release new brands and products to keep the company at the top - energy and sports drinks, health drinks, water etc etc.
    Fair points, I had no idea Coke was into all that other stuff really. The basic cola drink is poison, I don't have much interest in it. Thanks for the brief education in the variety of other merciless ways they try to fool people into paying for sugar water!
    Or even just water. Shweppes is another Coke brand incidentally. I think they also have a controlling share in Innocent now.
  • nickthegun 31 Jan 2013 14:03:28 60,452 posts
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    The list is genuinely phenomenal:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Coca-Cola_brands

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  • Jeepers 31 Jan 2013 14:05:48 13,183 posts
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    "A marketing company that happen to sell fizzy water".
  • nickthegun 31 Jan 2013 14:07:09 60,452 posts
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    Dasani still makes me laugh, though, a perfect storm of absolute disaster; 500ml of tap water sold as 'bottled spunk'.

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  • Tonka 31 Jan 2013 14:36:12 20,793 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    The facebook app is 10000x (approx) better on the iPhone than android.

    Same with a lot of apps really, the android one seems like an afterthought. The Android version of Auto Trader being a prime example.
    I wouldn't know about the Facebook app tbh, althoughi doubt the difference is as big as you say.

    But you are right about android apps mostly being lazy afterthoughts. Often they are straight ports and keep a lot of forced UI crap from the iOS version. Pocket still have that ugly pop up asking if you would like to add the URL on the clipboard to the collection.

    Why anyone would add articles like that on android is left to the imagination.

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • Fake_Blood 4 Feb 2013 20:21:48 4,289 posts
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    I dare anyone using Mountain Lion to post the following:


    File:///


    In fact, type it in any app on ML and you get the same result.
  • Fake_Blood 4 Feb 2013 20:24:20 4,289 posts
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    File:///
  • Fake_Blood 4 Feb 2013 20:26:06 4,289 posts
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    Chrome seems okay, but typing it in the adress bar has the same result.
  • RyanDS 4 Feb 2013 20:29:50 9,585 posts
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    File:///
  • RyanDS 4 Feb 2013 20:30:24 9,585 posts
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    I don't get it...
  • Fake_Blood 4 Feb 2013 20:37:21 4,289 posts
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    It crashes Safari, or any other app in mountain lion.
  • RyanDS 4 Feb 2013 20:39:52 9,585 posts
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    I just tried it in the address bar of Safari and I get this:

    dex of file:///

    Show hidden objects
    Name Size Last Modified
    File:.DS_Store 7 KB 26/01/2013 16:56:04
    .DocumentRevisions-V100 30/01/2013 19:43:57
    .Spotlight-V100 11/07/2011 19:39:57
    .Trashes 11/07/2011 19:45:15
    File:.file 18/06/2011 20:45:04
    .fseventsd 03/02/2013 22:40:35
    File:.hotfiles.btree 256 KB 02/11/2011 18:15:22
    .vol 21/06/2011 07:31:24
    Applications 03/02/2013 20:31:23
    Library 18/12/2012 18:41:16
    Network 18/06/2011 20:44:56
    System 18/12/2012 18:52:28
    User Guides And Information 02/11/2011 18:19:41
    Users 02/11/2011 18:19:39
    Volumes 03/02/2013 22:46:03
    bin 18/12/2012 18:41:06
    cores 18/06/2011 20:44:55
    dev 30/01/2013 19:43:29
    etc 30/01/2013 18:57:13
    home 03/02/2013 20:02:17
    File:mach_kernel 15208 KB 24/08/2012 00:27:46
    net 03/02/2013 20:02:17
    private 11/07/2011 19:07:20
    sbin 18/12/2012 18:41:41
    tmp 04/02/2013 20:38:53
    usr 18/12/2012 18:48:27
    var
  • Fake_Blood 4 Feb 2013 20:47:30 4,289 posts
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    capital F!
  • Fake_Blood 4 Feb 2013 21:19:44 4,289 posts
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    Okay, just to prove that I'm not totally crazy...
    Link
  • senso-ji 14 Jun 2013 11:33:25 5,965 posts
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    Didn't know where to put this (didn't seem like it was worth it's own thread), but Apple have announced their new mac pro:

    http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/

    It's surprising because there were rumours that Apple were going to drop the mac pro line entirely. It looks...interesting.
  • Tonka 14 Jun 2013 11:40:28 20,793 posts
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    If the 599USD rumor is true they might do some business.

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • nickthegun 14 Jun 2013 11:43:24 60,452 posts
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    It would then be cheaper than a mac-mini, so those rumours are bullshit.

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  • Tonka 14 Jun 2013 11:44:35 20,793 posts
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    But it's machined!

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • senso-ji 14 Jun 2013 11:51:46 5,965 posts
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    They'd sell a mac pro that's been assembled in the US for cheaper than one assembled in China?
  • nickthegun 14 Jun 2013 11:54:01 60,452 posts
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    That entire slide is basically 'FUCK YOU, CHINA!' in a can.

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  • Deleted user 14 June 2013 11:55:15
    Potentially. The cost of making in china combined with shipping has been increasing.

    The free PR for the American market probably outweighs the cost.
  • speedofthepuma 14 Jun 2013 11:55:25 13,304 posts
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    I think I'm interested.

    I am a massive tart though.

    I lurk. If I've spoken to you, I'm either impassioned, or drunk.

  • Jeepers 14 Jun 2013 11:56:57 13,183 posts
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    599?

    Massive bullshit. Three to four thousand dollars is more likely.
  • Tom_Servo 14 Jun 2013 12:03:39 18,005 posts
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    TarickStonefire wrote:
    Fair points, I had no idea Coke was into all that other stuff really.
    It's worth taking a look at the brands on bottles when you're picking them up. You'll be amazed how much is by either Coca Cola or Pepsico (i.e. everything).
  • nickthegun 14 Jun 2013 12:06:58 60,452 posts
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    I think 5999 is probably closer to the target. There is absolutely no way that is going to come in at less than the price of a new kidney.

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    He's not a wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am, he's a thriller

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