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  • Bremenacht 20 Jan 2013 22:40:55 17,600 posts
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    Or whatever you call it.

    Just watching the Road to Perdition. An excellent film. Hanks is great. Hanks can do just about anything and he fits, right? He's pretty much believable in any role. You never look at Hanks in a film and think 'WTF is Forrest Gump doing there???!' do you?

    Yet here's Daniel Craig. He sticks out like a sore thumb. I know he's great in this film, but he's made James Bond so very much his own since the last time I watched it that I cannot 'see' his character properly. How did that happen? I hope it wears off.
  • Deleted user 20 January 2013 22:43:46
    I don't think it's typecasting so much as one-note-ing. Tom Hanks can act and can generally blend into roles. Daniel Craig is just Daniel Craig in virtually everything he's done.
  • cubbymoore 20 Jan 2013 22:44:19 36,468 posts
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    Daniel Day Lewis is typecast as an Oscar winner.
  • Bremenacht 20 Jan 2013 22:59:30 17,600 posts
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    meme wrote:
    I don't think it's typecasting so much as one-note-ing. Tom Hanks can act and can generally blend into roles. Daniel Craig is just Daniel Craig in virtually everything he's done.
    Maybe that's it. I'd forgotten he was in it.
  • jonsaan 20 Jan 2013 23:00:30 25,326 posts
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    Some actors just have one character in them. This doesn't make them shit, but I'm always amazed when people say what great actors they are.

    Ray Winstone.
    Bruce Willis.
    Hugh Grant.
    Bill Nighy or whatever his name is.

    FCUTA!

  • Tom_Servo 20 Jan 2013 23:05:29 17,291 posts
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    jonsaan wrote:
    I'm always amazed when people say what great actors they are.

    Ray Winstone.
    Hmm.
  • beastmaster 20 Jan 2013 23:06:58 11,154 posts
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    Sexy Beast and The Proposition are fucking awesome and Winstone is superb in these.

    There's a difference between being a one note actor and be being typecast.

    The Resident Evil films. I'm one of the reasons they keep making them.

  • Deleted user 20 January 2013 23:10:21
    Tom_Servo wrote:
    jonsaan wrote:
    I'm always amazed when people say what great actors they are.

    Ray Winstone.
    Hmm.
    He's terrible when he's not playing an East End Villain (though, granted, he's fucking good at that). He was the worst thing in Indy 4, which is impressive going in a movie entirely made of worst things. Though I do give him credit for not even bothering to hide his accent for Beowulf.

    "Oi'm 'ere tew slay yaw monstah"
  • Tom_Servo 20 Jan 2013 23:18:14 17,291 posts
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIxQFUV_AcA
  • Bremenacht 21 Jan 2013 00:00:43 17,600 posts
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    jonsaan wrote:
    Bruce Willis.
    Bill Nighy
    Willis cameos are totally different though! His lead characters are, well, Bruce Willis. His cameos are good though.

    Bill Nighy keeps getting picked out for throughly Bill Nighy parts - floppsy, woppsy, ever so British. He can do other stuff, but no-one wants to see him doing anything else.
  • Bremenacht 21 Jan 2013 00:03:21 17,600 posts
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    Typecasting is definitely the wrong word. What's a better word, for when you cannot help but see someone in a particular role, regardless of what they're actually doing or how good they are at it?
  • Deleted user 21 January 2013 00:03:51
    "shit actor"
  • cubbymoore 21 Jan 2013 00:06:08 36,468 posts
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    Which can be abbreviated to Shatner.
  • disusedgenius 21 Jan 2013 00:09:56 5,199 posts
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    It's called being a character actor, boringly enough.
  • cubbymoore 21 Jan 2013 00:12:18 36,468 posts
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    Um, that's usually used for actors with great diversity...
  • disusedgenius 21 Jan 2013 00:14:42 5,199 posts
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    Hum. Upon a google it seems to refer to people who are typecast as oddballs/Hollywood-ugly parts. So we're both wrong. Ha!
  • Deleted user 21 January 2013 00:16:25
    I thought character actor was basically just "not leading role".
  • beastmaster 21 Jan 2013 00:18:17 11,154 posts
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    Tom Cruise is always Tom Cruise.
    Kiefer Sutherland will always be Jack Bauer.
    Etc.

    I think the only way past this is to nail more than one iconic role if you are a big star. Harrison Ford who was Han Solo and Indiana Jones managed it.

    The Resident Evil films. I'm one of the reasons they keep making them.

  • beastmaster 21 Jan 2013 00:19:35 11,154 posts
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    @meme

    I always though it meant someone who could act :-)

    The Resident Evil films. I'm one of the reasons they keep making them.

  • disusedgenius 21 Jan 2013 00:20:50 5,199 posts
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    The wiki article has pretty much every definition from 'supporting actors' to 'individualities and eccentricities' and people who are typecast.

    So fuck knows: if wiki can't help us we've clearly just ruined the internet.
  • Deleted user 21 January 2013 00:22:56
    Dunno about Kiefer. He's got a pretty decent range to him when he can be bothered - look at Dark City. He just hasn't really done anything of note since 24 anyway.
  • cubbymoore 21 Jan 2013 00:25:27 36,468 posts
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    meme wrote:
    I thought character actor was basically just "not leading role".
    Yeah, to the point where you don't realise it's the same actor in different films. Hence "character" actor.
  • disusedgenius 21 Jan 2013 00:28:00 5,199 posts
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    The definition I'd always gone by was that it was someone who kept on playing the same character over and over again. Hence "character" actor.
  • cubbymoore 21 Jan 2013 00:28:45 36,468 posts
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    Oh ffs.
  • ZuluHero 21 Jan 2013 00:40:43 4,019 posts
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    I think some people just play themselves, like Bill Murray.

    Tom Cruise is an amazing actor, he always comes across as a nice guy in films, and less of the crazy.
  • Dirtbox 21 Jan 2013 00:57:29 77,461 posts
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    I love it when the typically good guys are cast as bad guys. Robin Williams as a nutter in One Hour Photo was sublime, not that the movie was that good.

    Gary Oldman is about the only actor that I can think of who has never been typecast, he's done everything.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 01:00:40 21-01-2013

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  • Deleted user 21 January 2013 01:00:46
    Dirtbox wrote:
    I love it when the typically good guys are cast as bad guys. Robin Williams as a nutter in 60 Minute Photo was sublime, not that the movie was that good.
    Was pretty good in Insomnia too. About the only Nolan film that isn't massively up its own arse, as well.
  • mal 21 Jan 2013 01:50:43 22,332 posts
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    I was drawn to thinking of John Thaw earlier, after seeing a trailer for 'Lewis' which didn't even feature the titular character, assuming he's still even in the series.

    I can only assume Thaw took on the role as a counterpoint to Regan, who he surely was identified with before that programme. Although looking at wikipedia, he did Home to Roost between the two, and that was definitely not Regan in that, as I recall.

    Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!

  • Khanivor 21 Jan 2013 02:02:26 40,363 posts
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    I want to see Oldman in a romantic comedy.
  • Deleted user 21 January 2013 02:09:35
    Khanivor wrote:
    I want to see Oldman in a romantic comedy.
    What about Oldman playing a dwarf in a romantic comedy? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0316768/
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