American TV still looks like a massivvve turd in 2013

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  • AaronTurner 18 Jan 2013 08:25:48 7,886 posts
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    Why is that? Whenever American TV is shown on UK TV it looks like Vaselined turd. Take the Armstrong interview this morning. It is the year 2013 for goodness sake! Reary!

    Edited by AaronTurner at 08:26:44 18-01-2013
  • bad09 18 Jan 2013 08:31:29 6,255 posts
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    Isn't it something to do with our use of videotape and them using film? I think I remember reading something like that.
  • ecu 18 Jan 2013 08:35:42 77,312 posts
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    It's just the video they send over isn't it? American TV is great quality if you actually watch it in America.
  • THFourteen 18 Jan 2013 08:40:08 34,468 posts
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    I think its just because NTSC is a rubbish format
  • mrpon 18 Jan 2013 08:42:00 29,562 posts
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    It's memes fault.

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  • neilka 18 Jan 2013 08:45:17 16,527 posts
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    It's covered in hamburger grease

    BAAANG!!!!! EXPLOTION!!!!!

  • chopsen 18 Jan 2013 08:46:13 16,290 posts
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    I have not noticed this difference since the 90s, or possibly the 80s. Is it really still there? You sure?

    Edited by Chopsen at 08:46:23 18-01-2013
  • TheSaint 18 Jan 2013 08:54:46 14,827 posts
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    If you actually watch TV in the US their HD is far superior to ours.
  • CosmicFuzz 18 Jan 2013 09:03:00 25,621 posts
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    Maybe you've got vaseline smeared all over your tv.

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  • ED209 18 Jan 2013 09:07:55 505 posts
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    This thread presents no opportunity for vaguely humorous comment.

    unless...

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  • neilka 18 Jan 2013 09:19:06 16,527 posts
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    TheSaint wrote:
    If you actually watch TV in the US their HD is far superior to ours.
    Are you sure you weren't looking through a window?

    BAAANG!!!!! EXPLOTION!!!!!

  • Buztafen 18 Jan 2013 09:22:11 16,531 posts
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    TheSaint wrote:
    If you actually watch TV in the US their HD is far superior to ours.
    Is it really that superior...or do you secretly love the American cock?
  • Tonka 18 Jan 2013 09:33:40 21,349 posts
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    NTSC = Not The Same Colour

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  • Syrette 18 Jan 2013 09:34:42 44,211 posts
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    What's wrong with looking at turds?

  • chopsen 18 Jan 2013 09:37:48 16,290 posts
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    PAL = Picture Always Lousy
  • TheSaint 18 Jan 2013 09:39:50 14,827 posts
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    It always seemed far less compressed than SkyHD whenever I've watched it anyway and that's on crap hotel TVs, so probably even better on a decent home setup.
  • neilka 18 Jan 2013 09:49:31 16,527 posts
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    graysonavich wrote:
    What will really blow your mind is that you're also listening to it sped up and higher pitched.
    That's films man.

    BAAANG!!!!! EXPLOTION!!!!!

  • woodnotes 18 Jan 2013 09:51:13 4,943 posts
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    graysonavich wrote:
    What will really blow your mind is that you're also listening to it sped up and higher pitched.
    Yes, but not if you purchase from iTunes or have the Blu-Ray, then you get the proper 23.976fps! It's a bit jarring when The Big Bang Theory theme tune you're so used to from E4 is suddenly a semi-tone lower.
    neilka wrote:
    graysonavich wrote:
    What will really blow your mind is that you're also listening to it sped up and higher pitched.
    That's films man.
    All US TV comedies and dramas are shot on film (analogue or digital) at 23.976fps. So it's not just films, it's pretty much everything these days. 24? Prison Break? Homeland? Big Bang? How I Met Your Mother? 2 Broke Girls? Breaking Bad? All 23.976fps.

    Edited by woodnotes at 09:55:00 18-01-2013
  • Buztafen 18 Jan 2013 09:51:30 16,531 posts
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    Yanks are obsessed with Rear Projection TV's so i dont trust them.
  • woodnotes 18 Jan 2013 09:53:33 4,943 posts
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    Buztafen wrote:
    Yanks are obsessed with Rear Projection TV's so i dont trust them.
    To be fair, it was the only way to have a big screen in the pre-plasma age. And they need big screens for those big houses. I remember those TVs making an appearance here in Currys etc for a brief stint in the mid-90s, only to be never seen again.
  • BAM! 18 Jan 2013 09:59:11 38 posts
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    PAL is higher resolution and has better colour reproduction compared to NTSC. It undeniably gives a better picture.

    But the higher frame rate of NTSC makes it better for games.
  • woodnotes 18 Jan 2013 10:04:21 4,943 posts
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    BAM! wrote:
    PAL is higher resolution and has better colour reproduction compared to NTSC. It undeniably gives a better picture.
    Yes, but nobody uses "PAL" anymore, we're in the land of HD broadcasting where everything is 1080i. Well, aside from a few Freeview SD people living in the past.

    Now it's 1080i 50hz vs 1080i 60hz. The advantage of 50hz is it can show film without judder simply by speeding it up from 23.976fps to 25fps. Although, it is of course then sped up. Whereas at 60hz, pulldown has to take place and that introduces nasty judder. Hopefully one day they'll introduce proper 24hz for TV broadcasts too.
  • chopsen 18 Jan 2013 10:05:35 16,290 posts
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    woodnotes wrote:
    Buztafen wrote:
    Yanks are obsessed with Rear Projection TV's so i dont trust them.
    To be fair, it was the only way to have a big screen in the pre-plasma age. And they need big screens for those big houses. I remember those TVs making an appearance here in Currys etc for a brief stint in the mid-90s, only to be never seen again.
    Oooh, yeah, I remember them. Never known a single person to ever buy one.
  • BAM! 18 Jan 2013 10:13:03 38 posts
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    woodnotes wrote:
    BAM! wrote:
    PAL is higher resolution and has better colour reproduction compared to NTSC. It undeniably gives a better picture.
    Yes, but nobody uses "PAL" anymore, we're in the land of HD broadcasting where everything is 1080i. Well, aside from a few Freeview SD people living in the past.

    Now it's 1080i 50hz vs 1080i 60hz. The advantage of 50hz is it can show film without judder simply by speeding it up from 23.976fps to 25fps. Although, it is of course then sped up. Whereas at 60hz, pulldown has to take place and that introduces nasty judder. Hopefully one day they'll introduce proper 24hz for TV broadcasts too.
    All true but the OP was asking why some US broadcasts look so bad and the reason is that bog standard NTSC is an inferior format compared to the stuff we are used to seeing in the UK (SD or HD).
  • Razz 18 Jan 2013 10:54:05 61,654 posts
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    It's as if I stepped through a time portal to the 90s

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  • Tonka 18 Jan 2013 13:19:56 21,349 posts
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    Do a lot of people have HD tv on their HD tvs?
    I don't

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • THFourteen 18 Jan 2013 13:41:42 34,468 posts
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    Maybe all the videos have been recorded in Long Play
  • RedSparrows 18 Jan 2013 13:43:06 24,208 posts
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    But AD is coming back! \o/
  • ronuds 18 Jan 2013 13:44:27 21,788 posts
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    Tonka wrote:
    Do a lot of people have HD tv on their HD tvs?
    I don't
    I got it about a month ago after having an HD for two years or so.

    Mind. Blown.

    ...for about an hour.
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