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  • Deleted user 25 February 2013 11:43:15
    HarryPalmer wrote:
    Caught up with the final 2 episodes last night.

    Really enjoyed the first episode but feel it went gradually downhill, with the exception of the school incident - which was brutal.

    It looks great, but the acting was fairly crap, Neil Maskell was far and away the best thing in it. And by the end it was too pre-occupied with having a twist every 5 minutes to have a satisfying ending.
    I tend to agree. It definitely lost it towards the end and I can remember actually being a bit bored with how the final act was playing out. I still don't know if I completely understand what the hell it was about to be honest. I heard another series is a possibility...
  • Waffleaber 25 Feb 2013 11:52:10 582 posts
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    I forgot ths thread was here. Anyway I agree.

    The whole last half hour seemed more interested in setting up a sequel it might never get than giving a satisfying conclusion which is a shame given what came before.
  • Scimarad 25 Feb 2013 11:55:12 8,979 posts
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    I think the thing I'll remember about this the most is that I liked the music...
  • Gambit1977 25 Feb 2013 11:56:31 10,399 posts
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    It was the cinematography and over saturated colours for me. Beautiful.

    Shame the characters were ALL absolutely hateful.
  • Mr_Sleep 25 Feb 2013 12:14:53 20,072 posts
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    They were all pretty hateful, I think that worked quite well. I called the unsatisfying conclusion but saying that, I kind of liked the open ending. It didn't really leave me unsatisfied and I didn't have a huge problem with the final episode.

    It was a lovely production in places though, the cinematography was the highlight for me.
  • HarryPalmer 25 Feb 2013 12:33:35 4,521 posts
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    The music was excellent yeah.

    I think a big problem was the episodes were just too long. There wasn't enough substance or character development there across the 7 odd hours.
  • Gambit1977 25 Feb 2013 13:25:26 10,399 posts
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    Like you said earlier, everyone's different. I just found the longer I watched it, the more I couldn't care less if they got popped.
  • Psychotext 25 Feb 2013 13:31:45 60,209 posts
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    End was very flat, shame. That said, I still enjoyed it overall. Very different to anything else on TV.
  • Psychotext 25 Feb 2013 13:40:16 60,209 posts
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    Because it just seemed like they were randomly tying up the loose ends with no significant coherency.

    Wasn't really about the drama, just felt like a bunch of disconnected scenes.
  • Scimarad 25 Feb 2013 13:44:12 8,979 posts
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    I was expecting it to be a lot more strange and surreal than it turned out to be, TBH.

    Also, although it was a suitably big thing to have a conspiracy about, by the end I wasn't sure exactly who the people pulling the strings actually were and and how big their organisation was. At the beginning there was a sense that everyone else was potentially and probably an enemy but that had pretty much evaporated by the end.
  • Psychotext 25 Feb 2013 13:52:33 60,209 posts
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    As is often the case in these things the conspirators were doing the right thing, but in completely the wrong way.

    /may have just marked himself out as a psychopath
  • Gambit1977 25 Feb 2013 13:53:39 10,399 posts
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    If I were Wilson Wilson, and I'd felt that strongly, I'd have left, rather than try to scupper their plans.
  • Gambit1977 25 Feb 2013 13:54:23 10,399 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    As is often the case in these things the conspirators were doing the right thing, but in completely the wrong way.

    /may have just marked himself out as a psychopath
    This is spot on to me. I actually did think it was the right thing, but taking away 'free will' and killing all and sundry wasn't exactly a great way to go about it.
  • Mr_Sleep 25 Feb 2013 14:02:11 20,072 posts
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    I did find the major purpose of the conspiracy to be quite an interesting moral question. I kind of side with Wilson Wilson's feelings about it, despite being a socialist at heart. If nothing else you have to say the show did bring up some interesting and weighty questions, not something one expects that much from telly in the UK.

    Oh and I was a bit premature to agree with the word hateful, hateful isn't quite what they were, more that every character became less and less one that should be rooted for. What happened to Arbe was pretty a good example of this, he's a murderous psychopath but in the end one felt a certain sadness and even rooted for him a bit. Not something one would expect considering he murdered a bunch of school children!
  • localnotail 25 Feb 2013 14:06:50 23,084 posts
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    Scimarad wrote:
    I was expecting it to be a lot more strange and surreal than it turned out to be, TBH.

    Also, although it was a suitably big thing to have a conspiracy about, by the end I wasn't sure exactly who the people pulling the strings actually were and and how big their organisation was. At the beginning there was a sense that everyone else was potentially and probably an enemy but that had pretty much evaporated by the end.
    I guess, once they had Jessica, the organisation stopped worrying about the others. Plus a large chunk of their command structure had been disrupted.

    I really liked it. All of it. I liked that the central characters were not heroes, or even capable, much of the time. I didn't hate any of them. They were who they would have been, under the circumstances, stumbling around, trapped in a web they didn't even know existed. Whenever they thought they were safe they were just being left alone because they were more use on the loose.

    I thought the dialogue was good, and funny, the concept interesting and challenging, the actors suited the parts very well and there was some core quality in the supporting roles from Maskell, Fox, Rea and James. Maskell in particular was bloody great.
    It looked beautiful, sounded great, deftly directed with some lovely bits of cinematography that are rarely given to us in TV.

    Would be interested in a second series if they have as good ideas to continue with), and also in watching it again to check to see if I missed more clues.

    Edited by localnotail at 14:09:46 25-02-2013
  • Scimarad 26 Feb 2013 09:26:11 8,979 posts
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    I am glad I watched it, when you get right down to it. And I did think that the plan with the virus made a certain amount of sense, considering the alternative. It wasn't a nice solution but it was A solution...and it's not like the 'good guys' had a decent answer.
  • Gambit1977 26 Feb 2013 09:46:18 10,399 posts
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    They shouldn't have killed off the best character in the first episode :-( the chris Isaak wannabe[\spoiler]
  • glaeken 26 Feb 2013 10:13:56 11,675 posts
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    I enjoyed it overall. The actual plan was quite thought provoking and actually pretty humane. It was nice that the plan was something you could think might be a good idea. Wilson's realisation he might be against something that was right was actually pretty good I thought.

    Plus Jessica had a great arse.
  • wuntyphyve 6 Aug 2014 23:32:03 6,023 posts
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    Has anyone else been watching the second series of this? Totally passed me by and I'm now playing catch up on 4od.

    Watched first two episodes and loving it so far. The prequel episode was brilliant.
  • consoledelight 6 Aug 2014 23:49:52 184 posts
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    Loving the second series.

    I had forgotten all about it after the first finished. Glad its back.

    THings are starting to escalate, i for one hope they release the vaccine.
    That would be fun
  • mal 7 Aug 2014 02:44:19 25,951 posts
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    Yeah, second series has been a lot more consistent than the first so far, though I'm still expecting a disappointing conclusion, so withholding judgement as far as that goes. Tempted to rewatch the first series ending though to see if anything's changed.

    Still a bit confused about Janus though. Is that the flu or the vaccine? I thought the flu was just spanish flu again, but janus interacts with the vaccine, so ain't the vaccine either?
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