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localnotail 21,427 posts
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Chopsen 13,694 posts
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Registered 8 years agoA declining rate of population expansion is not a bad thing.Thanks for expressing interest in my signature!
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Psychotext 49,157 posts
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Registered 7 years agoEveryone will start bitching about their pensions then. It's like the ultimate pyramid scheme.This post is sponsored by Apple and the iPhone 4S. Think different.
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morriss 69,369 posts
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Registered 9 years agoChopsen wrote:
So how do we afford people's pension when there will be proportionally more dependants than providers?
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THFourteen 29,003 posts
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Registered 8 years agoYou know you're getting on a bit when every other picture on facebook is of somebody else's baby! -
disusedgenius 4,810 posts
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Registered 6 years agomorriss wrote:
By the time we reach this stage pensions will just a a relic of a forgotten time anyway.
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Psychotext 49,157 posts
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Registered 7 years agomorriss perfectly on cue. You know... if we made reasonable plans for our pensions in the first place then people wouldn't need to panic about how they might be funded.
Same goes for paying for the elderly when there's more of them than workers. You have, what, 40 years of taxing me to get the money you need. How about you consider the fact that at some point you might actually need to use that money for something other than lavish salaries and expense accounts..gif)
Edit - That'll probably be more years of taxing now I think about it. Get me into work at 16, tax me until I'm fucking dead.
Edited by Psychotext at 18:16:35 10-01-2013This post is sponsored by Apple and the iPhone 4S. Think different.
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Chopsen 13,694 posts
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Registered 8 years agomorriss wrote:
If you model a falling birth rate with iterative matrix transformations, weirdly it doesn't seem to matter that much. I can't remember why but I did it as a part of my maths degree and seems to work out that way. Also, children/young people are dependent on society as well, they just use different resources, so state resources shift to compensate compensate. This happens iteratively over generations. You don't just wake up with no kids.Chopsen wrote:
So how do we afford people's pension when there will be proportionally more dependants than providers?
A declining rate of population expansion is not a bad thing.
edit: and to turn your question back at you, how can we afford to support an endlessly rising population given finite resources? (Specifically water, land, food and energy) If your solution to support the existing population is to have more population, that is inherently not sustainable.
Edited by Chopsen at 18:21:05 10-01-2013Thanks for expressing interest in my signature!
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sport 10,903 posts
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Registered 7 years agoPensions or no pensions, the bottom line is we need meme to dish out more cream-pies! -
Deckard1 17,901 posts
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Registered 4 years agoNo! Everybody must breed! Forget the the planet is becoming completely starved of natural resources, what about our pensions? -
Psychotext 49,157 posts
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Registered 7 years agosport wrote:
Or meme-pies as they've come to be known.
Pensions or no pensions, the bottom line is we need meme to dish out more cream-pies!
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morriss 69,369 posts
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Registered 9 years agoChildren are an investment and they amount of tax they could generate if nurtured properly would far outweigh that investment. The resources aren't finite in this regard. -
Lexx87 20,826 posts
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Registered 7 years agoBut are in every other one which would make it sustainableSpeak the truth hussy!
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Rens11 1,040 posts
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Registered 4 years agoDon’t kid yourself, Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he’d eat you and everyone you care about!
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meme 15,327 posts
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Registered 5 years agoYesterday, the spare bathroom where the litter trays are had plumbing problems and the toilet decided to spill human waste all over the floor. I can categorically say it smelt worse than any time I've cleaned out those boxes.GHOSTBUSTERS
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Rens11 1,040 posts
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Registered 4 years agobut how long had it been brewing?Don’t kid yourself, Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he’d eat you and everyone you care about!
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meme 15,327 posts
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Registered 5 years agoI didn't really think to carbon date it as I was soaking it up off the floor.GHOSTBUSTERS
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Rens11 1,040 posts
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Registered 4 years agowell were comparing apples and oranges then!Don’t kid yourself, Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance, he’d eat you and everyone you care about!
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meme 15,327 posts
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Registered 5 years agoNot really. We do a full clean of the litterboxes every two weeks (scooping out the clumps and turds every other day), and that's when the smells make me gag. So the stuff that flowed from the toilet like golgotha needs to beat a fortnight of fermentation.GHOSTBUSTERS
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Chopsen 13,694 posts
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Registered 8 years agomorriss wrote:
Irrelevant sophistry that has nothing to do with anything anybody else said. Thanks for trying to contribute though!
Children are an investment and they amount of tax they could generate if nurtured properly would far outweigh that investment. The resources aren't finite in this regard.Thanks for expressing interest in my signature!
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morriss 69,369 posts
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Registered 9 years agoA) it isn't sophistry. B) it is entirely relevant to the discussion about needing resources to support pensioners.
I'm perfectly willing to admit I might have missed something however and that my argument was beside the point you were making.
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Chopsen 13,694 posts
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Registered 8 years agoYou started by responding to my posts. So who are you arguing with then?
And it bleeding well is sophistry. It has a plausible ring to but it's conclusion is meaningless given the statement "The resources aren't finite in this regard" is either false, or you're using a different meaning of word "resorces" so it's a meaningless in the context of this discussion.
Sorry if I sound condescending. I'll be less condescending if you do the same. Deal?
Edited by Chopsen at 20:11:47 10-01-2013
Edited by Chopsen at 20:12:54 10-01-2013Thanks for expressing interest in my signature!
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morriss 69,369 posts
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Registered 9 years agoPsychotext wrote:
What about the people who don't think as clearly and as logically as you do? Or who can't administer their cash for whatever reason?
morriss perfectly on cue. You know... if we made reasonable plans for our pensions in the first place then people wouldn't need to panic about how they might be funded.
Same goes for paying for the elderly when there's more of them than workers. You have, what, 40 years of taxing me to get the money you need. How about you consider the fact that at some point you might actually need to use that money for something other than lavish salaries and expense accounts.
Edit - That'll probably be more years of taxing now I think about it. Get me into work at 16, tax me until I'm fucking dead.
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GrandpaUlrira 3,730 posts
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Registered 7 years agomorriss wrote:
Yes! The ant and the grasshopper and all that.
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Lukus 18,694 posts
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Registered 8 years agomorriss wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Please don't condescend me again.Paintings & Photographs
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Bremenacht 11,116 posts
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Registered 6 years agomorriss wrote:
No we should punish the people who did plan for later life by taking their money off them and giving it those who didn't. We must create a culture where people who'd rather piss what money they have up a wall than save a penny are funded by those who bothered to put money to one side.Psychotext wrote:
What about the people who don't think as clearly and as logically as you do? Or who can't administer their cash for whatever reason?
morriss perfectly on cue. You know... if we made reasonable plans for our pensions in the first place then people wouldn't need to panic about how they might be funded.
Same goes for paying for the elderly when there's more of them than workers. You have, what, 40 years of taxing me to get the money you need. How about you consider the fact that at some point you might actually need to use that money for something other than lavish salaries and expense accounts.
Edit - That'll probably be more years of taxing now I think about it. Get me into work at 16, tax me until I'm fucking dead.
Should we really punish people for lack of planning and foresight?
I love people who whine all the time about being skint, because they've been on holiday somewhere nice or got an iPhone or an iPad or a new telly. I feel I must buy their drinks for them in the pub, because I didn't buy luxury goods I couldn't afford and thus have spare cash. Spare cash to spend on them, while they moan about bills and the cost of everything. Wankers.
People have to be forced to save or have something taken off them through PAYE. A proportional, sensible contibution towards THEIR future life.This post is unsuitable for those with a high rumour-sensitivity.
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Deckard1 17,901 posts
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Registered 4 years agoLukus wrote:
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAmorriss wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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morriss 69,369 posts
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Psychotext 49,157 posts
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Registered 7 years agomorriss wrote:
I'm talking about governments on the whole... and they'd better fucking think more clearly and logically than me.
What about the people who don't think as clearly and as logically as you do? Or who can't administer their cash for whatever reason?
Should we really punish people for lack of planning and foresight?This post is sponsored by Apple and the iPhone 4S. Think different.
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I'm not sure what you losers are bickering about now but I never wanted kids but my wife wore me down. My daughter is, for me, the most amazing, beautiful thing in world. She's absolutely awesome. I regret nothing and her brother is due in march.
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