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  • heyyo 21 Dec 2012 22:12:50 14,307 posts
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    vizzini wrote:
    The new supply you listed from coolmaster isn't certified, but as an 80plus bronze at 750watt with the necessary connectors it should do the job.
    That PSU will only supply 517W when it's under 80% load (600W) at that 80plus bronze efficiency (83%)

    Job not done.

    Edited by heyyo at 22:14:00 21-12-2012
  • Bremenacht 21 Dec 2012 22:13:09 11,147 posts
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    Negotiator1 wrote:
    Right, to make sure I installed one of my older graphics cards in the second slot which doesn't require any additional power, and that doesn't show in device manager either which must mean the second graphics card slot is fried right? I mean it would have to show up if the slot was working, wouldn't it?
    Just to be sure, try the new card in the first slot to confirm it's fine.

    After that, put vizzini on ignore (just temporarily :))and see if gaol, db or someone else can suggest what to do next. I don't know enough about new kit to offer concrete advice. I know that vizzini knows even less though :D

    The PSU may be duff, or your new cables may be duff, or your MB may be duff or even the bios, but you really don't want to spend more cash without knowing for sure.

    Also check back through the thread for suggestions you may have missed.

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  • Negotiator1 21 Dec 2012 22:29:37 86 posts
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    @Bremenacht The primary slot works fine its the second x 8 slot that is giving me the problems. If I put 1 graphics card in the second slot with nothing in the first slot no picture comes on, is that normal or should it display video? I'm thinking its the slot and not the PSU as the old graphics card only requires power from the board.
  • vizzini 21 Dec 2012 22:43:58 959 posts
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    @Negotiator1

    Not according to the mb manual. It should still work in the second slot. Try it back in the first slot and access the bios to see if there is an option to set the pcie slot to auto or x8 speed, then try it back in the 2nd slot.
  • Bremenacht 21 Dec 2012 22:45:23 11,147 posts
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    @Negotiator1 I'm suggesting you try card #2 in the first slot just to be absolutely sure that there's nothing wrong with that card.

    Beyond that, you'll really need someone familiar with this stuff to assist - I'm not up to date with it. Sorry.

    Oh - have you put that cross-fire connector thingy in place, or do new AMD cards not need them anymore? Like I said, I'm not up to date.

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  • vizzini 21 Dec 2012 23:02:56 959 posts
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    @heyyo

    Are we still talking about this 750 watt supply? 900watts max from wall, 750watts output? 750/900 = 0.833?

    http://www.coolermaster.co.uk/product.php?product_id=6690
  • Dirtbox 21 Dec 2012 23:44:49 73,658 posts
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    Duff motherboard.

    Is there a third PCIe slot by chance? I suppose not, but it's worth asking. I can't be bothered to look at the manual, sorry.

    If the fan spins, there is power going to the card - it's nothing to do with the PSU or it's connectors, but if it's not registering as plugged in at all when only that slot is being used, then that's a busted (or obstructed maybe) PCIe slot. At this point I'd contact the manufacturer for support as there is nothing left that we can recommend.

    I can't believe vizzini is still going despite being flatly told his 'help' is being ignored.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 00:11:53 22-12-2012

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  • RobTheBuilder 22 Dec 2012 00:39:59 5,680 posts
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    This may sound like a stupid question, but you have got two identical 6950's right?!
  • Dirtbox 22 Dec 2012 00:50:15 73,658 posts
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    He said that individually they both work, be neither works individually in the second slot. Unless I misread.

    Hopefully he's tried that as it's pretty basic trouble shooting.

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  • Negotiator1 22 Dec 2012 16:03:48 86 posts
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    After almost a week it turns out the second slot is broken so crossfire is impossible, so I'm selling the 2 6950's and going to buy a single card for around £300 any suggestions on a good card would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to everyone who tried to help.
  • Fake_Blood 22 Dec 2012 16:10:08 2,972 posts
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    Might be worth taking a good look at said port, maybe a pin is bend out of shape or maybe some dust got in there.
  • Negotiator1 22 Dec 2012 16:32:54 86 posts
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    @Fake_Blood I'll take a look after work tonight, but it looked fine to me.
  • RobTheBuilder 22 Dec 2012 16:34:30 5,680 posts
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    If you get a single card then maybe a 660/670
  • Sharzam 22 Dec 2012 16:41:58 1,329 posts
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    Thats a shame the 6950 scales lovley in crossfire, but atleast in single card setup you will have less headaches in general. No multi GPu is perfect after all.

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  • Dirtbox 22 Dec 2012 17:52:17 73,658 posts
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    Shame, but you should know that motherboards usually come with a manufacturer warranty that may be around 5 years, so give them a go before you toss it all in.

    Where's my apology from vizzini.

    Edit: last thought - make sure there's no dust in the slot, give a squirt with some canned air or something (don't blow on it).

    Edited by Dirtbox at 17:54:33 22-12-2012

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  • Negotiator1 22 Dec 2012 21:39:41 86 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Shame, but you should know that motherboards usually come with a manufacturer warranty that may be around 5 years, so give them a go before you toss it all in.

    Where's my apology from vizzini.

    Edit: last thought - make sure there's no dust in the slot, give a squirt with some canned air or something (don't blow on it).
    Yeah the PSU was fine, I cancelled the other one I ordered once I realised the slot wasn't working. Tried the air but no dice, as it turns out a single card is less hassle anyway so I can live with it not working.
  • Negotiator1 22 Dec 2012 21:42:30 86 posts
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    @RobTheBuilder so you'd recommend Nvidia over AMD?
  • superdelphinus 22 Dec 2012 21:43:50 6,167 posts
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    670s seem to be trendy but the 79xxs beat them in pretty much every benchmark I've seen
  • RobTheBuilder 22 Dec 2012 21:52:35 5,680 posts
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    @Negotiator1 it depends on th price point. I just checked Tom's Hardware's 'best graphics cards for the money dec 2012.'

    I'd take a look there, and use it as your starting point. People here usually are good at spotting bargains too!
  • Negotiator1 22 Dec 2012 22:12:43 86 posts
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    RobTheBuilder wrote:
    @Negotiator1 it depends on th price point. I just checked Tom's Hardware's 'best graphics cards for the money dec 2012.'

    I'd take a look there, and use it as your starting point. People here usually are good at spotting bargains too!
    Just had a look and the Geforce GTX 670 is right in my price range but I could stretch to the Radeon HD 7970 but is it worth it?
  • Dirtbox 22 Dec 2012 22:23:27 73,658 posts
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    AMD is always the best bang for the buck, but nvidia has physx, which is pretty essential lately for that extra bell and the occasional whistle.

    Being honest, I don't think I've had a single AMD card that didn't have some little hassle with drivers or the speed it changes resolution, or some other odd little annoyance. Nvidia are generally all-round solid cards, but always cost a little more than they're worth.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 22:25:17 22-12-2012

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  • Negotiator1 22 Dec 2012 22:37:40 86 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    AMD is always the best bang for the buck, but nvidia has physx, which is pretty essential lately for that extra bell and the occasional whistle.

    Being honest, I don't think I've had a single AMD card that didn't have some little hassle with drivers or the speed it changes resolution, or some other odd little annoyance. Nvidia are generally all-round solid cards, but always cost a little more than they're worth.
    I've just seen a used GTX 680 for £300 is that a good buy?
  • Dirtbox 22 Dec 2012 22:49:15 73,658 posts
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    Yeah, go for it.

    Actually I think you can get them new for that much now. Have a go at knocking him down to 280.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 22:51:10 22-12-2012

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  • Negotiator1 22 Dec 2012 23:02:49 86 posts
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    Its a point of view brand one, is that a good make?
  • INSOMANiAC 22 Dec 2012 23:07:55 3,042 posts
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    superdelphinus wrote:
    670s seem to be trendy but the 79xxs beat them in pretty much every benchmark I've seen
    Id be very interested to see all these benchmarks because you're talking nonsense!

    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/05/14/geforce_680_670_vs_radeon_7970_7950_gaming_perf/2

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  • Gaol 22 Dec 2012 23:57:38 2,226 posts
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    @Negotiator1

    This factory overclocked 670gtx will get you more or less the same performance with a warranty and free games.

    Review

    Edited by Gaol at 23:59:03 22-12-2012
  • Bremenacht 23 Dec 2012 00:34:02 11,147 posts
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    That's probably the best 670 for the money. That or the Asus Direct CU II TOP.

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  • Bremenacht 23 Dec 2012 00:46:31 11,147 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Where's my apology from vizzini.
    In spit of all his bullshit and lies, he probably still thinks he was right all along. He'll turn up in another thread in a few weeks, again saying he's a pro and that he fixed this particular issue.

    Spotted another nasty little pop at you a couple of pages back:
    vizzini wrote:
    If it doesn't work, then it would seem the “dunno, try it” advice has most likely claimed another piece of hardware.
    What a slippery, shameless creep.

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  • Dirtbox 23 Dec 2012 07:05:05 73,658 posts
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    'Dunno, try it' turning out to be the best piece of honest advice in the thread.

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  • Negotiator1 23 Dec 2012 17:37:01 86 posts
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    @Gaol Thanks for the links, I've just ordered it after reading the review.
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