Graphics card installation help.

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  • Negotiator1 19 Dec 2012 11:14:33 86 posts
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    Just a quick question if anyone would be kind enough to answer it, just bought a new power supply and am getting another graphics card for crossfire. The thing is the graphics cards require 2 power leads, but the power supply only has 2 pci express sockets on it. There are however loads of 6 pin IDE sockets available on the power supply can I use those to power the second card when I get it?
  • RobTheBuilder 19 Dec 2012 11:17:11 5,680 posts
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    Im not an expert on this, but I think you can buy converters for some types of power lead.

    If you have the link to the card and power supply I'm sure that would help someone tell you.
  • Deckard1 19 Dec 2012 11:26:38 18,005 posts
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    They're pretty hard to get hold of though, Tosche Station is the only place I know has them at the moment.
  • Whizzo 19 Dec 2012 11:27:47 41,125 posts
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    You can indeed get convertors (Amazon has plenty of sellers), you sure your PSU is up to the task of running two cards in the first place as the beefier PSUs normally have extra PCI-E leads from the get go?

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  • Negotiator1 19 Dec 2012 11:46:07 86 posts
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    @Whizzo it says its crossfire ready thats why I bought it, the thing is the ports for the pci express cards are the same as the other ports on the power supply just blue and not red. If I put the graphics card cable into one of the red ports to see if it will work is there a chance I could fry my graphics card?
  • Sharzam 19 Dec 2012 11:53:44 1,329 posts
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    Do you have the details of which psu and which cards you want to crossfire?

    Check the 12v rails, because a gpu with enough grunt normally has the needed leads. It might be crossfire ready, in that it can handle two low end cards remember it is not just the high end cards.

    Known as 'Sharzam' in 98.5% of games

  • RobTheBuilder 19 Dec 2012 11:55:53 5,680 posts
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    Have you a got a link to the psu and card?
  • Whizzo 19 Dec 2012 11:56:25 41,125 posts
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    What PSU is it? If it's says it's Crossfire ready I would think you'd be okay, I assume it's a modular power supply so the colour coding is probably just so you can identify which cable is powering what card.

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  • Negotiator1 19 Dec 2012 12:00:29 86 posts
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    http://www.overclock.co.uk/product/Ezcool-PS-890-Modular-700Watt-SLi-ATX-Dual-Rail-PSU-8pin-ATX-and-2x-8pin-PCI-E_41255.htmlDescription_here

    And its 2 6950's.
  • Dirtbox 19 Dec 2012 12:10:48 73,658 posts
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    It's fine.

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  • Negotiator1 19 Dec 2012 12:16:14 86 posts
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    @Dirtbox So I can use the red ports for the other graphics card?
  • Dirtbox 19 Dec 2012 12:17:52 73,658 posts
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    Dunno, try it.

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  • vizzini 19 Dec 2012 12:32:06 959 posts
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    @Negotiator1

    If the website review of those cards I checked is to believed, it will be touch and go for power at 256watts/card at max load, if you have a couple of fans, two 3.5 HDDs and one or Two DVD/Blu-ray drives. At maximum load, lets assume just from motherboard with CPU and GPUs you are pulling 600watts. The Psu has to be providing nearly perfect power two provide enough for everything else.

    Converting other sockets for GPU is also not considered as power efficient (iirc) and so I would say you are 200watts adrift for a stable system using PCIexpress power converters.

    Anyone, that give you this advice

    “it's fine”, followed by “Dunno, try it”, is a complete cowboy.
  • Dirtbox 19 Dec 2012 12:34:26 73,658 posts
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    Yeah.

    And anyone who says "If the website review of those cards I checked is to believed, it will be touch and go for power at 256watts/card at max load, if you have a couple of fans, two 3.5 HDDs and one or Two DVD/Blu-ray drives. At maximum load, lets assume just from motherboard with CPU and GPUs you are pulling 600watts. The Psu has to be providing nearly perfect power two provide enough for everything else.

    Converting other sockets for GPU is also not considered as power efficient (iirc) and so I would say you are 200watts adrift for a stable system using PCIexpress power converters."

    Is a cunt. 2 bluray drives? What, for 3D?

    Edited by Dirtbox at 12:37:38 19-12-2012

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  • Aargh. 19 Dec 2012 12:34:49 11,150 posts
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    I wish my psu provided perfect power instead of the substandard power it normally gives me.

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  • Dirtbox 19 Dec 2012 12:36:35 73,658 posts
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    It's fine, seriously. It'll chug along on 50watts less quite happily meaning you've got plenty of room to add another hdd along the way.

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  • RobTheBuilder 19 Dec 2012 12:37:33 5,680 posts
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    -

    Edited by RobTheBuilder at 12:38:37 19-12-2012
  • Deckard1 19 Dec 2012 12:41:35 18,005 posts
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    Are you really a cowboy deebs?
  • vizzini 19 Dec 2012 12:42:19 959 posts
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    @Aargh

    Yes it needs to be sustained also, but that wasn't the question being asked by OP.

    You need plenty of headroom with PSU for a stable system. Xbox360, PS3 and WiiU all have PSU that are rated much higher than the power they draw at maximum load. It is like music, you need large speakers (maybe even capable of 4times) what you output at for great sound.
  • Dirtbox 19 Dec 2012 12:44:40 73,658 posts
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    Yeehaw, gonna herd me some vizzini steaks tonight, baw.

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  • vizzini 19 Dec 2012 12:47:26 959 posts
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    @rodpad

    Yeah because the warnings of under powering GPUs potentially doing damage is just for giggles by the manufacturers is it?
  • Aargh. 19 Dec 2012 12:49:22 11,150 posts
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    Can you please stop giving technical advice on here Vizzini? It's always either scare mongering, wrong or unnecessarily confusing. Either way, it's always useless.

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  • Dirtbox 19 Dec 2012 12:50:02 73,658 posts
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    Yeah, it's called a disclaimer because there's always an outside chance of something bizarre happening and stemmed from back when shit probably did happen because the hardware had none of the safety measures that they have now.

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  • Sharzam 19 Dec 2012 12:52:48 1,329 posts
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    Personally I always use a psu with much more power than I need.

    Not for a technical reason but just because I like to able to chuck anything I like in to it without thinking about it. I have a corsair 850w gold modular psu, just because I might fancy chucking in more drives and/or gpu.

    But as it stands right now it is total overkill.

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  • vizzini 19 Dec 2012 12:53:52 959 posts
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    @Aargh

    And who are you, just out of interest? Is this really your wheelhouse?

    Someone asking this question, is someone clearly in need of being cautious. Just like cowboy dirtbox should be, given his own late education on computing, judging by his wifi plea for help in 2006.
  • Dirtbox 19 Dec 2012 12:55:18 73,658 posts
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    And I've still forgotten more than you'll ever know. Like for example the fact that every PSU is marked at anything from 50 to 100 watts less than they're safely capable of.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 12:56:14 19-12-2012

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  • vizzini 19 Dec 2012 13:01:59 959 posts
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    @Dirtbox

    Safety isn't equal to capable. As it doesn't necessarily mean working correctly. Safety is about risk to consumer and surroundings, not safety for the defenceless little devices.

    The safety they build in is to compensate for the bad advice you give.
  • RobTheBuilder 19 Dec 2012 13:03:26 5,680 posts
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    @Negotiator1 ok let's end this.

    Can you please post everything you have in your system, and we will calculate it using a power calculator and see what it says.
  • Dirtbox 19 Dec 2012 13:03:54 73,658 posts
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    the bad advice you give

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