So when will genocide be justified under "act of mother nature"?

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  • The-Bodybuilder 7 Dec 2012 09:13:39 14,082 posts
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    Right, had a long post that somehow annoyingly got deleted. SO i'll get to the point.

    All week all I hear is hear is how the earth is overpopulated and is at cause to so many issues (climate change, diminishing resources). It also seems people are happy to recommend 1 child-per-couple (ala china) regulations. But what got me was how people had zero problems with just saying nature will find a way to regulate human population. Whether it's natural desasters or whatever. So cold, logical and rational, all very.....scientific.

    Makes me wonder, since we see people do things in he name of God, when will people start doing things in the name of nature? Can some dictator who goes on a mass genocide justify it as mother nature? As in, can't it be argued that his actions is just nature regulating our population?

    Or the way some people justify actions as if we're animals (technically, aren't we?). I wonder if they'll be a day when a man will justify rape with "well some sea lions do it".

    I'm just spouting bollocks, but it is interesting the cold way we are seeing human life these days. Or maybe we're all just being taken over by Agent Smith.
  • Deckard1 7 Dec 2012 09:18:49 27,275 posts
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    As in, can't it be argued that his actions is just nature regulating our population?
    No

    I'm just spouting bollocks
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  • neilka 7 Dec 2012 09:21:22 15,683 posts
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    Are you accusing sea lions of being rapists? What next, penguins?
  • Deleted user 7 December 2012 09:21:36
    Someone's been playing Populous.
  • nickthegun 7 Dec 2012 09:26:54 58,948 posts
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    The difference is that nature doesnt deliberately kill people. But, as ridiculous as it sounds, the hilarity in iraq wasnt far off being a 'god told me to do it' situation.

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  • The-Bodybuilder 7 Dec 2012 09:33:39 14,082 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    The difference is that nature doesnt deliberately kill people.
    But if it's nature's way to "regulate population", surely then that's just killing off?

    Edited by The-Bodybuilder at 09:33:57 07-12-2012
  • The-Bodybuilder 7 Dec 2012 09:34:51 14,082 posts
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    @Deckard1 Thank you for your insight, tard.
  • megastar 7 Dec 2012 09:35:06 17,144 posts
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    we should cut down more trees - show nature who's running this bitch!
  • The-Bodybuilder 7 Dec 2012 09:37:05 14,082 posts
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    Btw, to believe that people won't use "act of nature" to justify genocide is pretty short-sighted, considering ww2.
  • Deckard1 7 Dec 2012 09:38:19 27,275 posts
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    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    @Deckard1 Thank you for your insight, tard.
    Sorry mate, couldn't really think of anything constructive to say. What with the stuff you wrote essentially being a load of old bollocks.
  • Deleted user 7 December 2012 09:39:33
    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    Btw, to believe that people won't use "act of nature" to justify genocide is pretty short-sighted, considering ww2.
    What?
  • Whizzo 7 Dec 2012 09:43:07 43,039 posts
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    Bit early to be drinking this much cough medicine.

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  • Deleted user 7 December 2012 09:49:01
    Plans for world domination:

    Create weather machine
    Create earthquake machine
    Recruit mole people
    Activate machines
    Wipe out country with snow and earthquakes
    Build snow men
    Blame Mother Nature.
  • Deleted user 7 December 2012 09:51:06
    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    All week all I hear is hear is how the earth is overpopulated and is at cause to so many issues (climate change, diminishing resources).
    I stopped reading after the terribly written first line.
    "all I hear is hear is how". What?
  • nickthegun 7 Dec 2012 09:54:01 58,948 posts
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    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    The difference is that nature doesnt deliberately kill people.
    But if it's nature's way to "regulate population", surely then that's just killing off?
    Nature doesnt regulate the human population by triggering earthquakes and tidal waves. Youre watching too much anime.

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  • ResidentKnievel 7 Dec 2012 09:56:09 6,137 posts
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    i reckon

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  • disusedgenius 7 Dec 2012 09:56:29 5,232 posts
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    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    Can some dictator who goes on a mass genocide justify it as mother nature?
    Even if he/she does, are we planning on taking every dictator at their word or something?
  • Deleted user 7 December 2012 09:58:43
    nickthegun wrote:
    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    The difference is that nature doesnt deliberately kill people.
    But if it's nature's way to "regulate population", surely then that's just killing off?
    Nature doesnt regulate the human population by triggering earthquakes and tidal waves. Youre watching too much anime.
    Mother Nature acts in mysterious ways.
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 7 Dec 2012 09:59:37 37,423 posts
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    Fantomex wrote:
    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    All week all I hear is hear is how the earth is overpopulated and is at cause to so many issues (climate change, diminishing resources).
    I stopped reading after the terribly written first line.
    "all I hear is hear is how". What?
    THE VOICES. The voices in his head that never stop. Over and over they tell him there needs to be a cull... For nature.

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  • neilka 7 Dec 2012 10:00:41 15,683 posts
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    The muscular shall inherit the Earth
  • Dirtbox 7 Dec 2012 10:05:21 77,481 posts
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    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    The difference is that nature doesnt deliberately kill people.
    But if it's nature's way to "regulate population", surely then that's just killing off?
    It's not natures way to regulate anything, there's no consciousness to it, it didn't suddenly decide there are too many of this or that. If people or a species dies due to an earthquake, a volcano or a flood it's because they were unlucky.

    Never read such bollocks.

    Ecosystem balance is pretty much the only part of nature that is 'it's way'. Everything else is a freak occurrence.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 10:07:40 07-12-2012

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  • nickthegun 7 Dec 2012 10:07:23 58,948 posts
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    If that was the case, mother nature is *really* pissed off at japan.

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  • Tonka 7 Dec 2012 10:45:32 20,028 posts
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    We don't know for sure wether or not Jesus was gay.

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • RyanDS 7 Dec 2012 10:46:53 9,074 posts
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    Is he a real body builder?
  • nickthegun 7 Dec 2012 10:53:25 58,948 posts
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    To answer that, we will have to see his penis.

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  • Trafford 7 Dec 2012 10:56:03 5,644 posts
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    Yeah like Purple Aki.
  • RedSparrows 7 Dec 2012 11:00:12 22,104 posts
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    You're anthropomorphising nature to the extent of giving it a conscious, decision-making cortex of some kind.

    As for a loon 'justifying' mass murder as a natural necessity, well - the critical historian in me quails at such simple answers, but - I don't think that actually makes much difference, given the end result and the likely methods, actual actions, et al.

    Edited by RedSparrows at 11:01:18 07-12-2012
  • Rajin 7 Dec 2012 11:06:15 619 posts
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    MrTomFTW wrote:
    Fantomex wrote:
    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    All week all I hear is hear is how the earth is overpopulated and is at cause to so many issues (climate change, diminishing resources).
    I stopped reading after the terribly written first line.
    "all I hear is hear is how". What?
    THE VOICES. The voices in his head that never stop. Over and over they tell him there needs to be a cull... For nature.
    I think this is gold.

    On a serious note, can we please refrain from using Genocide if we refer to "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group". Unless you count the human race amongst those.....
  • RedSparrows 7 Dec 2012 11:08:23 22,104 posts
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    Correct, Rajin. Genocide isn't want TB meant, I reckon. He probably meant mass-murder on a global scale, irrespective of class, creed or colour.

    Which is never how it would work if any human hand was involved, anyway.
  • SClaw 7 Dec 2012 13:50:10 826 posts
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    I haven’t had time to read the posts, but I felt I needed to say this based solely on the thread title.

    I know not everyone is a fan of Phil Collins but you have to admit that I Can't Dance is a pretty iconic song. I think that song alone justifies them under “mother nature”, if I understand your question OP. But really... they’re old hat these and won’t get back together now anyway, so it’s hardly worth discussing.
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