Indian Woman Dies in Irish Hospital Ater Being Denied Termination of Pregnancy

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  • reddevil93 27 Nov 2012 18:31:48 11,373 posts
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    I'm sure quite a number of people on this board will of heard of this case with the wide coverage it's received but I don't recall any discussion about it on here.

    For those who don't know the story Savita Halappanavar was admitted to University Hospital Galway with back pain. She then suffered a miscarriage a couple of days later. The fetus still had a heartbeat however and despite Savita's numerous requests the hospital refused to perform a medical abortion.

    The fetus survived for 3 days during which time Savita picked up an infection due to the state she was left in. This then lead to her death.

    There's been uproar here in Ireland about it since and a lot of people are looking for laws to be changed. Seems absolutely ridiculous that a woman can die because of backwards laws in a country shes not even native to.

  • atomicjuicer 27 Nov 2012 18:34:49 298 posts
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    What's backwards about protecting life? Personally I find the infanticide practiced in the UK barbaric and plenty of women have suffered and died due to abortions too.

    Condolences to Savitas family though.
  • Stickman 27 Nov 2012 18:36:53 29,657 posts
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    atomicjuicer wrote:
    What's backwards about protecting life?
    Did you not get to the bit where she died yet or something?

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  • reddevil93 27 Nov 2012 18:37:15 11,373 posts
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    atomicjuicer wrote:
    What's backwards about protecting life? Personally I find the infanticide practiced in the UK barbaric and plenty of women have suffered and died due to abortions too.

    Condolences to Savitas family though.
    She had already suffered a miscarriage so the baby had no chance of surviving anyway..

  • Stickman 27 Nov 2012 18:38:39 29,657 posts
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    Might want to look up infanticide too.

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  • Lukus 27 Nov 2012 18:41:44 18,996 posts
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    atomicjuicer wrote:
    Condolences to Savitas family though.

    Oh that's ok then.

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  • MrTomFTW Moderator 27 Nov 2012 18:44:09 37,344 posts
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    Stickman wrote:
    Might want to look up infanticide too.
    Indeed, a child has to be born before it's infanticide. Trufax.

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  • RobTheBuilder 27 Nov 2012 18:44:13 6,521 posts
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    It was a terrible decision.
  • Psychotext 27 Nov 2012 18:44:43 53,815 posts
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    atomicjuicer wrote:
    What's backwards about protecting life?
    Depends, it's a choice of losing one or both because I can guarantee that if the mother dies in the case of a 17 week old foetus then the foetus is going to die too. Oh, aside from the fact that they already knew the foetus wasn't viable so they put the woman at risk unnecessarily because of a law based on religious beliefs more than medical knowledge.

    Edited by Psychotext at 18:44:55 27-11-2012
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 27 Nov 2012 18:46:05 37,344 posts
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    mowgli wrote:
    Surely Fruit Salad is all the argument you need for this.
    Can't help yourself can you? You unpleasant little man.

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  • bitch_tits_zero_nine 27 Nov 2012 18:47:33 6,654 posts
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    Sad fookin business. I guess i'm pro abortion ftr.
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    @MrTom

    Oh come on I deleted it straight away, why quote it?

    Edited by mowgli at 18:49:07 27-11-2012
  • atomicjuicer 27 Nov 2012 18:47:52 298 posts
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    The incident with Savita was a very unfortunate one that unfolded messily but more lives would be lost if abortion became as convenient as it is in the UK.

    The difference is we try to respect human life at the beginning, in the middle, and in the end which is why we don't allow euthanasia either. It's not always pretty but the alternative is worse.
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 27 Nov 2012 18:49:04 37,344 posts
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    mowgli wrote:
    MrTomFTW wrote:
    mowgli wrote:
    Surely Fruit Salad is all the argument you need for this.
    Can't help yourself can you? You unpleasant little man.
    Oh come on I deleted it straight away, why quote it?
    Quoted before deletion. And why would you even write it in the first place after everything we discussed?

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  • Stickman 27 Nov 2012 18:50:07 29,657 posts
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    Yeah, we hate human life over here. Stupid humans.

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  • Psychotext 27 Nov 2012 18:50:21 53,815 posts
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    atomicjuicer wrote:
    The incident with Savita was a very unfortunate one that unfolded messily but more lives would be lost if abortion became as convenient as it is in the UK.
    You do realise that most women in Ireland just hop on a ferry to Holyhead when they want an abortion right? The laws over there just harm in the case of emergencies like this.

    As for euthanasia, yeah, there's nothing more horrific than someone being able to leave life on their own terms. I prefer the idea of people suffering for as long as possible when there's nothing we can do for them.

    Edited by Psychotext at 18:52:11 27-11-2012
  • spindizzy 27 Nov 2012 18:51:11 6,427 posts
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    atomicjuicer wrote:
    What's backwards about protecting life? Personally I find the infanticide practiced in the UK barbaric and plenty of women have suffered and died due to abortions too.

    Condolences to Savitas family though.
    Anyone who tried to defend what was done here is an utter cunt.

    Everyone agrees that there was no way to save the baby, and the current law would permit abortion in such a case. I hope the doctors involved are prosecuted for negligent homicide or something similar, because as far as I can see from what has been reported, they sacrificed a woman's life for religious reasons.

    And BTW there's a parliamentary report explaining the current medical evidence regarding abortion, which is very readable:
    http://www.badscience.net/wp-content/uploads/hc-1045-i-final-abortion-report.pdf
    (I especially recommend the bit about "foetal pain" because it explains quite well why 24 weeks is a sensible, humane cut off).
  • RobTheBuilder 27 Nov 2012 18:51:42 6,521 posts
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    To me allowing children to be born when they are unwanted or parents are not ready to deal with them properly is just as cruel as abortion.

    Also, abortion lowers crime rates.
  • Deleted user 27 November 2012 18:52:29
    Throw away joke which I quickly regretted so deleted. That is all. You've ignored much worse!
  • Fatiguez 27 Nov 2012 18:54:44 8,707 posts
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    SAD FACE!

    Edited by MrTomFTW at 19:11:12 27-11-2012
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    See!
  • nickthegun 27 Nov 2012 19:01:32 58,784 posts
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    Oh my!

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  • AcidSnake 27 Nov 2012 19:06:25 7,214 posts
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    @atomicjuicer:
    Just no...

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  • Fatiguez 27 Nov 2012 19:10:14 8,707 posts
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    I'm sorry mowgli that was uncalled for and unpleasant, MORE SAD FACE. I've learnt my lesson and hope that you can learn yours when it comes to saying hurtful things about other users of the forum!

    Edited by MrTomFTW at 19:11:43 27-11-2012
  • kickerconspiracy 27 Nov 2012 19:10:41 495 posts
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    @atomicjuicer

    Words can't adequately describe just how much of a drooling shitbeast you are.
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 27 Nov 2012 19:11:58 37,344 posts
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    @Fatiguez Clearly not :-(

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  • neilka 27 Nov 2012 19:14:20 15,655 posts
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    Problems like this could be avoided by killing everybody.
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  • localnotail 27 Nov 2012 19:23:58 23,093 posts
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    Surely now the Catholic Church is actually stopping its priests from abusing children, there is no need to keep having so many?

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