Fonts look terrible

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  • woahthere 14 Nov 2012 21:36:04 1 posts
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    A while ago I started noticing the fonts on Eurogamer looked like crap. Thin and pixely. I tried playing with the view sizes and eventually just figured it was a bug in the browser or font or something.

    Then, today, I saw this:
    http://www.usabilitypost.com/2011/02/08/please-stop-disabling-subpixel-rendering/

    A bit of experimentation with the Chrome inspector confirms it: Eurogamer is disabling subpixel rendering, and when its re-enabled, the body text was far more readable.

    I really don't get how you could not see how bad it looks - maybe it looks ok on Windows or Safari or something - but it looks awful on Chrome on Mac.

    Please fix this.

    Thanks!
  • Dirtbox 14 Nov 2012 22:47:25 77,453 posts
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    They do all sorts of stupid shit, including not allowing you to zoom on a phone in the alt views.

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  • Deleted user 14 November 2012 22:57:53
    What good reason could there be for them disabling it?
  • dominalien 14 Nov 2012 23:01:17 6,821 posts
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    They hate us and want us all to die. Right after we've gone insane from looking at the awfully non-subpixel-rendered fonts and clicked 300 times on every ad currently on the page.

    PSN: DonOsito

  • WrongShui 14 Nov 2012 23:02:49 6,597 posts
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    They've gone mad with power!
  • graysonavich 14 Nov 2012 23:19:15 7,309 posts
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    It makes my eyes bleed.
  • skuzzbag 14 Nov 2012 23:35:23 5,635 posts
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    They look great on my laptop screen probably because of the high ppi (1920x1400).

  • skuzzbag 14 Nov 2012 23:35:52 5,635 posts
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    Now I'm confused
  • Dirtbox 14 Nov 2012 23:50:52 77,453 posts
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    Mr McGoo.

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  • skuzzbag 14 Nov 2012 23:54:50 5,635 posts
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    Move further away from the screen is my advice.
  • Deleted user 14 November 2012 23:58:56
    That won't help.
  • neilka 15 Nov 2012 00:11:55 15,622 posts
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    If you move far enough from the screen you'll end up doing something more interesting instead.
  • Blerk Moderator 15 Nov 2012 09:07:07 48,225 posts
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    They look okayish on my laptop screen at home, but I've actually ad-blocked the custom fonts on my machine here at work because they look so God-awful.
  • Tonka 15 Nov 2012 09:11:21 20,006 posts
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    My laptop at work looks fine. The iMac at home though. Unreadable. Too little contrast, waaaay too thin. Just horrible. Thought it was me so I didn't say anything. Will get adbocker on it STAT!

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • Blerk Moderator 15 Nov 2012 09:30:50 48,225 posts
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    You just need to block everything in eurogamer.net/fonts/ and you're away. Everything drops back to the default font and is magically readable again.
  • craigy Staff 15 Nov 2012 09:39:13 7,492 posts
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    @woahthere Hello!

    It's always fun when people take the time to look under the hood of the site. Thanks for caring enough to take a peek.

    The decision to use standard antialiasing instead of sub-pixel antialiasing is a subjective choice we made when we started using Proxima Nova as the core site font. In general, as a team, we prefer the way Proxima renders with standard antialiasing.

    You'll notice that when using sub-pixel the typeface becomes very blobby when used at heavier weights -- take a look at the main site navigation while switching subpixel on and off in the web inspector and you'll see the difference is quite dramatic. It's a little too heavy when you are reading longer-form pieces of writing, too.

    I remember reading that blog post when it was first published, and the issue isn't as clear as "don't ever turn off subpixel antialiasing." There are always times when making deliberate choices about this sort of thing is the right thing to do. I wouldn't disable the antialiasing of any of the core web fonts, for example, because they are hinted well enough to not require it. The version of Proxima Nova we're using has some issues with hinting, so we've made some changes to the way it renders -- subjectively for the better.

    I appreciate that you may not like it, though, so I'm sorry if we're making your experience of the site worse! We may revisit the use of Proxima soon, as we're fully aware of its issues (it's particularly poorly hinted when using older versions of IE with Cleartype disabled), so who knows, we may end up replacing it completely at some point.
  • Moot_Point 15 Nov 2012 09:44:33 3,906 posts
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    Yeah, but no, but yeah.

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  • mrpon 15 Nov 2012 09:47:52 28,411 posts
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    @craigy, while you're here the eurogamer.net logo top left on this view looks a bit lo-res on my retina iPad.

    You're welcome.

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  • Tonka 15 Nov 2012 10:34:46 20,006 posts
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    @mrpon There's a rather interesting approach to a solution of that problem http://getpocket.com/a/read/243588126

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • mrpon 15 Nov 2012 10:44:36 28,411 posts
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    Hmmm, that is a funky solution and it works as well. Could speed the website loading possibly. Bedtime reading for craigy!

    Give yourself 5 or gig, you're worth it.

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