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  • Roddles 7 Aug 2013 15:23:28 1,875 posts
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    The MSI one you just linked is much better. Go for it.

    Edited by Roddles at 15:23:43 07-08-2013
  • Carlo 8 Aug 2013 09:36:02 18,047 posts
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    Hmmm!

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-msi-gtx-760-twin-frozr-oc-pcie-30-(x16)-6008mhz-gddr5-gpu-980mhz-boost-1033mhz-cores-1152-dport-

    PSN ID: Djini

  • Roddles 8 Aug 2013 09:47:21 1,875 posts
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    Not worth it. You'd get better performance from the 670 linked above, which you can get for Ł60 less
  • graysonavich 8 Aug 2013 09:49:14 7,339 posts
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    Rodpod requires a greater sacrifice.
  • Gartt 8 Aug 2013 16:41:53 1,738 posts
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    My turn for the hive!

    Looking in to a graphics upgrade soon, fancy going for high end this time around. Specifically looking at the 680/770/7970 these cards all seem pretty similar but im leaning towards the 770 at the moment.

    Ive also heard that getting a card with more than 2GB of vram is pointless or rather that the architecture (GK104) in these particular cards cant fully utilise more than 2GB. Ive been trying to read around the subject but its kinda confusing and Im reading conflicting reports. Can anyone clarify?

    Is it worth dropping the extra to get a 4GB card instead of the 2GB version?

    Cheers guys.
  • graysonavich 8 Aug 2013 16:45:26 7,339 posts
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    Nope.

    Buy this: http://www.ebuyer.com/510507-asus-gtx-770-direct-cu-ii-2gb-gddr5-hdmi-dvi-displayport-pci-e-gtx770-dc2oc-2gd5

    gg
  • Roddles 8 Aug 2013 16:48:02 1,875 posts
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    It can utilise it fine, that's not the issue.

    If you can afford 4GB, go for it, but if you do, make sure it's on a decent card. There's no point getting 4GB on a budget card. When games start needing more than 2GB of VRAM at 1080p I imagine your current beastly card won't be up to the job.

    We had this discussion a few pages back and couldn't really come to general agreement as it's all speculation at the moment.

    If I were to get a 770 tomorrow I'd be saving money and going for the 2GB version.
  • Gartt 8 Aug 2013 16:54:50 1,738 posts
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    Awesome, cheers.

    Ive been trying to hold out til the end of the year see what AMDs new cards will be like but Im itching to waste my money now.
  • graysonavich 8 Aug 2013 17:21:46 7,339 posts
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    Yeah there's always something around the corner. I bought a 770 myself last month - it's really the best bang for your buck you'll get for sometime

    Edited by graysonavich at 17:22:19 08-08-2013
  • Gartt 8 Aug 2013 17:31:53 1,738 posts
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    Is this? Noticed that happen a few times on ebuyer, lack of description and pictures.
  • Roddles 8 Aug 2013 17:35:48 1,875 posts
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    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-msi-gtx-770-gaming-pcie-30-(x16)-7010mhz-gddr5-gpu-1098mhz-boost-1150mhz-cores-1536

    Looks like it.
  • FutileResistor 8 Aug 2013 17:39:35 1,230 posts
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    But Ebuyer always have the manufacturers ID code which is far more precise than pictures or descriptions.

    N770 TF 4GD5/OC
  • munki83 18 Aug 2013 08:47:33 1,423 posts
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    I'm a week or so away from laying down cash for part one of replacing my old pc. My current pc isn't that bad a spec it just feels like time for an upgrade with a lot of new games coming out that look like they make my current pc wet itself a little. Unfortunately due to the oldness of my mobo I'm having to buy my new pc in two parts. PArt one is building the base with a new mobo, processor and ram while the second part will be buying a new 760gtx to replace my old 460gtx.

    This is what I'm planning on buying

    Would appreciate some feedback. I know the case is on the expensive side but it looks like a really nice case and I like its simple aesthetics and that it doesn't have a window or neon lights all over the plcae. Like I said my current pc is very noisy so I don't mind paying extra for a case that will make things quieter.

    I'm not planning on any overclocking but would like the option to in the future maybe.
  • senso-ji 18 Aug 2013 13:32:22 5,897 posts
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    @munki83

    Everything looks good to me. One thing I will say is that case, although nice, does retain heat more than others (due to the foam padding to reduce noise). If you plan on overclocking then you'll need a few more case fans and an after market heat sink for your CPU.
  • munki83 18 Aug 2013 17:26:12 1,423 posts
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    Thanks for the advice will look at the after market coolers. I have 2 spare 120mm coolmaster fans so will hook them up if I decide to overclock.
  • FutileResistor 18 Aug 2013 21:07:30 1,230 posts
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    You need to change your motherboard to an Z87 for overclocking the K CPU.
  • FutileResistor 18 Aug 2013 21:07:32 1,230 posts
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    @munki83

    You need to change your motherboard to an Z87 for overclocking the K CPU.
  • munki83 18 Aug 2013 21:24:31 1,423 posts
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    @FutileResistor

    Thanks for the tip I'll updgrade the mobo to a Z87 when I buy it on payday....9 days to go :D
  • munki83 25 Aug 2013 21:11:07 1,423 posts
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    So very close to buying the parts for my pc :D.

    I've been playing pc games for years but I've never bothered to build my own pc so a little nervous about fucking things up so have a few issues I have which still have me worried.

    1) Installing the CPU. I've watched a few vids on youtube and it looks really simple just a case of matching up the notches in the cpu to those on the motherboard and just locking it in place. I'm still kinda worried as people always warn about bending pins but this could be old hearsay.

    2) Installing the mobo. Is there any good tips on installing the mobo so I don't fry Ł300 worth of electronics and start crying like a little girl

    3) CPU cooling. I'm going to buy a third party cooler as I'm tempted to overclock my cpu, nothing too crazy but just a little so I was looking on amazon (I may order my parts from amazon as I'm a prime customer and they have great customer care) and found

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CW-9060007-WW-Series-Performance-All-In-One/dp/B00A0HZMGA/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1377460416&sr=8-6&keywords=cpu+cooler

    I'm unsure about water cooling I'm sure its safe but will it die in a year or so without me noticing ? Or am I better sticking with a normal cooler

    Thanks for any advice in advance :)
  • PenguinJim 26 Aug 2013 01:12:42 5,853 posts
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    1) Just don't touch the pins or throw the CPU around like a spaz. Look at the pins to see how to align it, hold it 1mm over the holes, and you can literally drop it in.

    2) Don't tighten the screws until they've all been screwed in slightly. Take your time. Use common sense.

    3) If you're scared about bending CPU pins, then water cooling should be freaking you the fuck out. Imagine running a tap through your PC. Doesn't that scare you? IT SHOULD!

    If you're completely inexperienced with internal PC doodahs, water cooling might be a step too far this time. I'm not saying that putting together a PC is particularly difficult or complicated, or that installing water cooling is particularly difficult or complicated, but doing both at the same time will make it a much longer process and increase the chance of a mistake. Perhaps just install the stock cooler for now. You can always throw on some water cooling if you're unhappy with your temps/noise in the future.

    Oh, and installing the CPU HSF should scare you a little bit, anyway. Maybe. It scares the bejeesus out of me. I've never actually had a problem, but the nightmare of crushed cores persists...
  • munki83 27 Aug 2013 17:37:28 1,423 posts
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    Well just about to finalize my order....hate spending this amount of cash in one go :S

    final order is

    Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl Case
    Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 Mhz
    mobo Gigabyte Z87X-D3H
    Intel Core i5 4670K

    Sticking with the stock cooler for now as I'm not planning to overclock it off the bat or if at all :S.

    Also went for a slightly more expensive mobo as I'd like the option to go sli even if I dont.

    Hopefully all goes well and in a month or so I'll be adding a 760gtx to replace my current 460gtx
  • Kryon 27 Aug 2013 17:58:16 62 posts
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    Hi people, I wonder if you guys might be able to help me, I'm about to buy a new graphics card and it states that this card requires the PSU to be a minimum of 500w... My PSU is 500w, but some people have said it's not a good idea to use the minimum PSU, so I'm just wondering what would be the downside of me sticking with my 500w, would it be really stupid to do that?
  • Fake_Blood 27 Aug 2013 18:05:50 4,204 posts
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    Nope, worst case the system won't boot or games will crash.
    You can always get a stronger supply later.

    Which card are you getting?

    Edited by Fake_Blood at 18:06:18 27-08-2013
  • Kryon 27 Aug 2013 18:32:14 62 posts
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  • Kryon 27 Aug 2013 18:32:47 62 posts
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    @Fake_Blood Hey thanks for the reply Fake_Blood, I'm getting the XFX AMD Radeon HD 7950 DD 3GB GDDR5.
  • TheRum 27 Aug 2013 19:12:54 12 posts
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    I've recently built a naughty PC and all was going dandy but now mid game they crash. Well I usually get something along the lines of dota2.exe stopped working or equivalent depending on the game. Nothing is over heating only gear not new is the GPU which is a 560ti.

    Any ideas?
  • orpheus 27 Aug 2013 19:22:45 1,000 posts
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    munki83 wrote:
    Well just about to finalize my order....hate spending this amount of cash in one go :S

    final order is

    Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl Case
    Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 Mhz
    mobo Gigabyte Z87X-D3H
    Intel Core i5 4670K

    Sticking with the stock cooler for now as I'm not planning to overclock it off the bat or if at all :S.

    Also went for a slightly more expensive mobo as I'd like the option to go sli even if I dont.

    Hopefully all goes well and in a month or so I'll be adding a 760gtx to replace my current 460gtx
    Looks decent, especially once you add the 760. Watch the temps though, even on stock clocks. Download something like RealTemp for a quick, accurate temp reading.

    I say this as I'm on the mobo down from that on an i5 3750K (Ivy Bridge), and mine runs hot even with a monster aftermarket cooler. Haswell (the 4xxx series chips, like yours) reportedly runs even hotter. I can't imagine the stock sink coping with an Ivy, let alone a Haswell, but I suppose they must do, or there'd be uproar. Probably nothing to worry about, but worth keeping an eye on :)


    @ The Rum

    Probably need a bit more info than that... :) Is the pc overclocked? Does Event Viewer (type it into start bar) show anything out of place? Do you get bluescreens or warning notifications of any kind? Any graphical corruption or slowdown prior to a crash? What cpu/gpu etc?
  • TheRum 27 Aug 2013 19:30:51 12 posts
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    CPU is overclocked. Can't get to PC at the moment to view event viewer. CPU is i5 3570k, GPU 560ti (not overclocked). No slowdown or blue screen just suddenly BAM! game stops and and it goes back to desktop with windows saying it's trying to find a reason.
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