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  • Wolves1877 16 Jul 2013 23:51:14 389 posts
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    B0rked_Gamer wrote:
    Yep the 7950 really starts to sing when overclocked.

    Wolves, the 7950 is pretty good. ;)
    So that would be a decent upgrade from my 6970?

  • superdelphinus 16 Jul 2013 23:51:24 8,051 posts
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    Mine was 205 (club3d w/boost) on amazon yesterday. There was also a sapphire one which I think they'd also accidentally priced just over 200 because they've both gone up again today
  • superdelphinus 16 Jul 2013 23:51:51 8,051 posts
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    Have you got any benchmarks Wolves?
  • B0rked_Gamer 16 Jul 2013 23:53:29 2,576 posts
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    Wolves1877 wrote:
    B0rked_Gamer wrote:
    Yep the 7950 really starts to sing when overclocked.

    Wolves, the 7950 is pretty good. ;)
    So that would be a decent upgrade from my 6970?
    Yep, when overclocked the 7950 should be appreciably faster.
  • superdelphinus 16 Jul 2013 23:55:17 8,051 posts
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    This is a review of my one Wolves - http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/club_3d_7950_royal_king_review/1
  • Wolves1877 17 Jul 2013 00:05:16 389 posts
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    Could I crossfire the 7950 with my 6970?

  • B0rked_Gamer 17 Jul 2013 00:07:32 2,576 posts
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    Nope.
  • superdelphinus 17 Jul 2013 00:09:48 8,051 posts
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    Don't think you'd need to really
  • Wolves1877 17 Jul 2013 00:10:56 389 posts
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    Ok, Cheers for the advice guys.

  • TheBlackDog 17 Jul 2013 00:15:27 384 posts
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    @Wolves1877 Well, according to this, you'd need to spend around 200 before you noticed a difference, and a bit more than that if you want to make a significant difference.

    As always, depends on your budget, and also your attitude to how much FPS and shiny graphics is worth. Personally, I like to wait longer between upgrades and then still buy an old card - couldn't bring myself to spend much more than 100 on a GPU even though I've got the means. I just bought a new Sapphire 7870 OC edition cheap and I notice the difference in how it performs with FPS but its also a lot quieter, cooler and consumes less power, which are things that made it worth upgrading for me.

    Even though Toms hierarchy chart recommends that you choose a card 3 tiers higher to really notice the difference, I think that the 6970 does run a little louder, hotter and consumes more juice than newer cards, so if you want to justify it on that basis.

    If you are happy spending 300 plus, then you'll get a noticeable benefit and be set for the next 2 or more years, especially if you heed the general advice to get a card with as much GDDR5 memory as possible. But really, if you upgrade, you're talking about a 7950 in AMD or a 660 Ti, upwards aren't you.
  • Wolves1877 17 Jul 2013 00:17:47 389 posts
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    @TheBlackDog

    Yeah, I'm not sure if to wait another 6 months or so & go for the 7970.

  • superdelphinus 17 Jul 2013 00:24:44 8,051 posts
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    I think it depends on when you are thinking of buying the one after that. If I was buying me to last a while id probably wait a while
  • TheBlackDog 17 Jul 2013 00:35:14 384 posts
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    @Wolves1877 Yeah - what he said, plus, if you are happy to wait, you'll more than likely be getting a better card than a 7970. That review of the 7950 sort of showed that its not necessarily worth spending the extra on the 7970, in terms of bang-for-buck, and especially if you are happy to overclock.

    If you do decide to wait, you can time it for something juicy in the sales ! Does kind of depend what you are playing too - you should still handle most current stuff anyway right. I'm working my way through a serious PC backlog so the most I'll be doing for now is Fallout 3, and even playing Dishonored recently didn't tax my old 5850.

    And the good news is that the rest of your kit will be suitable for another two GPU upgrades I'd say, games-wise.
  • Wolves1877 17 Jul 2013 00:37:55 389 posts
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    Thanks BlackDog, Would Christmas time be a good time to upgrade then or when do the sales hit?

  • TheBlackDog 17 Jul 2013 00:48:05 384 posts
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    No idea about sales and I'm not even in the UK at the moment, but you'll see the prices come down in general as AMD and Nvidia continue to release the newest cards, and (hopefully), todays 300 card will be 200. I think components, like most other things, go on sale at various times throughout the year. I assume you are subscribed to HotUKDeals, and by hanging about here you'll probably get wind of some bargains.
  • DodgyPast 17 Jul 2013 02:35:45 8,451 posts
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    superdelphinus wrote:
    8 hard drives?!
    I'm quite a pack rat when it comes to downloading stuff.
  • Steve_Perry 24 Jul 2013 09:32:44 3,946 posts
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    Is it possible to swap a motherboard and CPU for a newer one while keeping your old hard drive and operating system?

    I was told once by some bloke in a shop that your OS doesn't like it sometimes if you change the mobo/cpu.

    Asking because the PCs at work need upgrading and the CPUs in them are ancient. Thanks.

    VIVA STEFANSEN

  • Roddles 24 Jul 2013 09:34:12 1,840 posts
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    It's pot luck really. I've done that a few times and Windows 7 worked fine. Other times I had to go into safe mode and fiddle with drivers. Another time I had to do a complete reinstall.

    The most important thing is that you make sure you keep the SATA mode the same, ie AHCI or IDE, otherwise you will get a bluescreen on boot.
  • graysonavich 24 Jul 2013 09:43:34 7,321 posts
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    I've used this copy of Windows for about 5 or 6 fresh installs, over 4 hard drives and 2 mobos.
  • Steve_Perry 24 Jul 2013 09:46:50 3,946 posts
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    Roddles wrote:
    It's pot luck really. I've done that a few times and Windows 7 worked fine. Other times I had to go into safe mode and fiddle with drivers. Another time I had to do a complete reinstall.

    The most important thing is that you make sure you keep the SATA mode the same, ie AHCI or IDE, otherwise you will get a bluescreen on boot.
    Thanks I will give that a go. Time to back everything up just incase :(

    VIVA STEFANSEN

  • Roddles 7 Aug 2013 14:35:34 1,840 posts
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    Almost. Get 660Ti, and not the "660". They are very different cards in terms of performance, and you should be able to get them for just under 200.

    Edit: MSI 660Ti OC for 174.79 at Scan

    Alternatively the Asus 660 Ti from Play at 185.61 - I'd definitely go for this since the Direct CU II coolers are the quietest and most efficient on the market right now.

    Edited by Roddles at 14:42:13 07-08-2013
  • PenguinJim 7 Aug 2013 14:41:35 5,837 posts
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    I've seen the 760 drop down to 180 once or twice, and it's quite a bit faster than the 660Ti. I assume you've reformatted and updated to perk up your system already, though? You're only running 1080P, just turn all the Shadows to 'Medium' and you'll be fine!
  • Roddles 7 Aug 2013 14:48:56 1,840 posts
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    If you can get a 760 for under 200 then definitely go for that.

    Goodfella, there's a massive difference between the 660 and 660Ti. They are totally different cards and merely share part of the same name.

    The 660Ti is based on the same parts as the 670 and 680.

    The 660 isn't. It's big difference which does show up on benchmarks quite substantionally.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_600_Series

    Basically the 660Ti is better and very much worth it for the price difference you'd be paying for it.

    Edited by Roddles at 14:54:24 07-08-2013
  • PenguinJim 7 Aug 2013 14:51:21 5,837 posts
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    eBuyer has a 194 EVGA 760, but I was helping a friend get one last week and I'm sure we found one with the new Splinter Cell for 190 delivered (which he promptly didn't order when he remembered he was unemployed).

    Edit: Shadows to 'Medium' until 160-170 for a 760 IMO!

    Edited by PenguinJim at 14:53:07 07-08-2013
  • Carlo 7 Aug 2013 15:12:01 18,004 posts
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    I love this site: http://gpuboss.com/

    It's like Fightclub, for graphics cards!

    PSN ID: Djini

  • Roddles 7 Aug 2013 15:21:59 1,840 posts
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    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-017-KF&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=2294&source=KitGuru

    There you go. A 670 for 200. Bargain.
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