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  • B0rked_Gamer 14 Jul 2013 02:24:43 1,868 posts
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    I recently bought one of these, more for curiosity than anything.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AM3A7JY/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1GMFS2G0BEK71DKK3JF1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=358549767&pf_rd_i=468294

    It's buy far the cheapest 7870 XT. The cooling could best be described as adequate (to be fair the weather is bloody hot at the moment) and it isn't silent but there is no annoying clicking or bearing noise coming from the fan. I did a few overclocked runs of 3DMark 11 scoring over 9K, which is crazy for a 160 card.

    Edited by B0rked_Gamer at 02:25:08 14-07-2013
  • superdelphinus 14 Jul 2013 09:14:59 7,276 posts
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    Wow that's cheap
  • Gruff 14 Jul 2013 10:38:30 2,774 posts
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    Did, the whole, "spend the day on Amazon putting together a small form factor Steambox for gaming" thang the other day.

    Came to the realisation my System building days may be over, just can't be arsed to put in the effort :(

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  • superdelphinus 14 Jul 2013 10:57:22 7,276 posts
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    @B0rked_Gamer just been doing a scan of amazon - any idea why this one is 50 or so cheaper than any of the other tahiti le ones?

    At the moment I have a sapphire 7850 2gb OC edition and I've started to have to drop down some of the settings in new games. My plan is to buy something like this for the next year or so and then buy one of the new 8 series ones when they come out and the demands of the 'next gen' are more understood. Does that sound stupid?
  • rtk79 14 Jul 2013 11:15:14 481 posts
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    Any thoughts about this thing :

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/520w-antec-neo-eco-0-761345-285209-modular-82-eff-80-plus-bronze-sli-crossfire-eps-12v-fan-atx-v23-p

    Bearing I've just bought it for 23 to replace an ageing Earthwatts 380.
    Why ask if the purchase's been made ? Because buyer's remorse cares little for cheapness !
  • Fake_Blood 14 Jul 2013 11:22:24 3,836 posts
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    Aw man not the eco 520 series!
  • rtk79 14 Jul 2013 11:26:52 481 posts
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    Fake_Blood wrote:
    Aw man not the eco 520 series!
    Is it infamous? Should I panic?
  • monkehhh 14 Jul 2013 11:27:58 3,131 posts
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    Worst series ever.
  • TheBlackDog 14 Jul 2013 11:32:23 259 posts
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    @rtk79 Was that the LDLC one ? I nearly bit but read a couple of meh reviews. Sorry !
  • Edwannawonga 14 Jul 2013 11:50:58 321 posts
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    I once had an Antec TruePower 2.0 550W that only lasted about a year. Don't think I'll use them again.
  • rtk79 14 Jul 2013 11:55:07 481 posts
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    @TheBlackDog It is. Reviews didn't seem damning to me. I might not have looked at the right places though. And my current Antec Earthwatts has been working fine for close to three years now, if that's any indication of the brand's skills.

    Edited by rtk79 at 11:56:30 14-07-2013
  • TheBlackDog 14 Jul 2013 12:17:54 259 posts
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    @rtk79 I'm sure it'll do fine for a replacement for the Antec 380w. I'm on a different computer at the moment and I can't find the same reviews that put me off. If I remember correctly, Xbit Labs had a review (one of the reviews concluded the fan was too loud at quite a medium load but you never know and it depends on what else you've got going on in your case, noise wise). The other thing that put me off is that you have to buy a few cables, and LDLC didn't have the GPU cable (maybe not a problem for you). Part of the problem for me was that there weren't many (ANY ?) reviews from established sites and with PSU's I don't want to take a gamble (I think Xbit Labs had to pull the 620w version out of a PC because they wanted to include it in a group test it. But there are a good number of user reviews on LDLC but you never know if they know what they are talking about. Still, hope you picked up one of those Sapphire 7870 2 Gb overclock edition from LDLC for just over 100 - that was the best bargain I've seen for some time.
  • rtk79 14 Jul 2013 12:37:07 481 posts
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    @TheBlackDog Thanks for that. Seems, from what I can tell, that the Antec is Seasonic made. Seems reliable enough for me.
    Abstained from the 7870, 100 isn't that enticing when you have a 6 months old 7850 in the case!
  • superdelphinus 14 Jul 2013 16:09:00 7,276 posts
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  • B0rked_Gamer 14 Jul 2013 16:57:02 1,868 posts
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    superdelphinus wrote:
    @B0rked_Gamer just been doing a scan of amazon - any idea why this one is 50 or so cheaper than any of the other tahiti le ones?

    At the moment I have a sapphire 7850 2gb OC edition and I've started to have to drop down some of the settings in new games. My plan is to buy something like this for the next year or so and then buy one of the new 8 series ones when they come out and the demands of the 'next gen' are more understood. Does that sound stupid?
    I'd suggest waiting until after the PS4 is out and seeing how various GPUs perform relative to that. Saying that the X1 is using a budget GPU (in PC terms 16 ROPS says it all really) and multiplatform gaming will have to be designed with the lowest common denominator in mind so you should be OK with the 7870 XT if you want to upgrade now.

    As for why the VTX3D 7870 is so cheap I have no idea. Perhaps as a unknown brand they have to undercut the competition although VTX3D is owned by TUL who own a few brands including PowerColor. I was intrigued by the card because of its cheapness and because of the 7870 XT itself and just assumed the card would implode in a few weeks. :D

    If it does indeed prove durable then it is truly an outstanding bargain.
  • FutileResistor 15 Jul 2013 18:12:36 1,208 posts
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    superdelphinus wrote:
    Which gfx card would you buy for around 250 at the moment? Thinking either that Tahiti 7870, gtx 760 or a 7950
    Has to be the 760 which you can get for under 200 if you shop around.

    Weirdly the 7950 has gone up in price since the 760 came out. It's difficult to find one for less than 210.

    The 7870 XT was great 3 months ago for 170 when 7950s were 220 and 660Tis were 240. I personally would pay the extra 20 for a 760 now but you may feel differently. Aria probably has the best value offer on this card at 170 with AMD's four game bundle.
  • B0rked_Gamer 15 Jul 2013 18:18:21 1,868 posts
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    Avoid XFX branded cards like the plague, they tend to run extremely hot.

    This 760 has been getting excellent reviews.

    http://www.dabs.com/products/msi-geforce-gtx-760-1085mhz-2gb-pci-e-3-0-hdmi-gaming-twinfrozr-oc-8SWV.html?q=gtx%20760&src=16

    Edited by B0rked_Gamer at 18:20:56 15-07-2013
  • Bremenacht 15 Jul 2013 18:20:24 15,756 posts
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    Well reviewed Palit 760 (Jetstream) available for 205 from eBuyer.

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  • Aretak 15 Jul 2013 18:52:30 10,329 posts
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    B0rked_Gamer wrote:
    Avoid XFX branded cards like the plague, they tend to run extremely hot.
    My XFX 4870 idled at 79C with CCC's auto fan controls. Good times.
  • superdelphinus 15 Jul 2013 19:57:50 7,276 posts
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    I've bought a 7950 in the end. Is there anything I need to do or can I just swap the cards over and everything will be fine?
  • graysonavich 15 Jul 2013 20:19:47 6,805 posts
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    There's nothing you need to do - apart from wish you bought nvidia instead
  • superdelphinus 15 Jul 2013 21:03:12 7,276 posts
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    Maybe I will next year :)

    Is the driver for the 78xx series not different from the 79xx though?
  • B0rked_Gamer 15 Jul 2013 21:55:32 1,868 posts
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    I'm back to using my 670 at the moment because AMD decided put out some WHQL drivers that can't play sound properly through HDMI. It's possible to create a profile and up the idle memory speed but it just blows the mind that AMD thought that was acceptable. Honestly it's great being back on Nvidia. I'll put the 7870 into another PC.
  • superdelphinus 15 Jul 2013 23:53:16 7,276 posts
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    @B0rked_Gamer looks like the beta driver sorts that hdmi sound issue out:

    http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/amdcatalyst13-6WINBetaDriver.aspx
  • Deleted user 16 July 2013 12:46:34
    Sorry if there is a more appropriate thread but how does a budget pc compare to a 360. As in what level of graphics on a pc would be compatible to a 360. Trying to work out if a super budget build, because I fancy building one more than I really care about playing on it at the moment.
  • superdelphinus 16 Jul 2013 14:11:25 7,276 posts
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    Is it even possible these days? Even that 300 one that eurogamer built is a lot better than a 360.

    What's the cheapest is possible to build a pc with a discrete GPU?
  • DodgyPast 16 Jul 2013 14:38:29 8,337 posts
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    Mowgli... If you're going cheap buy a low end Intel CPU and nVidia graphics card. Put the rest into decent other parts.

    Good quality mobo and PSU are vital with your luck with technology ;-) A good case makes the building process so much more pleasant. I love my Lian-li case. You're other half will really appreciate something quiet and refined.

    OC'd CPU, 8 hard drives and a decent graphics card... It's almost completely silent.

    Needs almost 0 maintenance, nVidia software optimises the settings for most games and prompts you to upgrade the graphics drivers when necessary. .


    Plus then after you're hooked you've got the cheapest upgrade path to a quality system.

    Edited by DodgyPast at 14:47:47 16-07-2013
  • superdelphinus 16 Jul 2013 16:14:25 7,276 posts
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    8 hard drives?!
  • graysonavich 16 Jul 2013 17:04:38 6,805 posts
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    mowgli wrote:
    Sorry if there is a more appropriate thread but how does a budget pc compare to a 360. As in what level of graphics on a pc would be compatible to a 360. Trying to work out if a super budget build, because I fancy building one more than I really care about playing on it at the moment.
    Did you mean to type 360? A budget build in 2007 would have out performed a 360.
  • Deleted user 16 July 2013 17:44:01
    What's a budget build to you exactly? Because whenever it comes up it tends to mean 'double the price of a 360'.

    Anyway, what I mean is how comparable are, for example 'all low graphics at 720p' to a 360 in say Witcher 2.

    @Dodgypast, cheers for the help.
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