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  • INSOMANiAC 15 Nov 2012 18:04:20 3,829 posts
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    Ive opted for the G500 logitech mouse which leaves me exactly 70.25 to buy a keyboard, been looking at the ROCCAT Isuka but I'd like one with USB ports in it

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  • superdelphinus 15 Nov 2012 18:11:24 8,016 posts
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    That's pretty much what I have, though a different case (bitfenix). I'd spend the extra £130 odd on an lg ips monitor and the you get the ms wireless mouse and keyboard for about £18
  • MMMarmite 15 Nov 2012 18:43:18 994 posts
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    @INSOMANiAC solid specs, I personally would choose a Samsung 830 over the OCZ Agility but that's just personal preference thing. Also modular PSUs are great and all, but not strictly necessary unless you find the odd cable tied out of the way repulsive ;)
  • MMMarmite 15 Nov 2012 18:53:35 994 posts
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    @vizzini Socket 2011 is more of a workstation/server class than a "Pentium class product". Do you actually read any information or make it all up by "process of deduction"?
  • Maturin 15 Nov 2012 19:09:04 2,889 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    Another thing, the PSU isn't modular so you'll have a load of unneeded cables cluttering up your case.
    If it's anything like my Coolermaster Storm Enforcer case then you can hide all the PSU cables behind the motherboard tray. CM stuff seems to have very good cable management.

    @Insomniac that seems a very good system you've put together there. Very similar to mine - little more expensive thanks to the GTX670, HD (I've reused mine) and the DVD drive (I've an external one I'll use, and not that much). I went for an OCZ drive too, specs seemed better than the equivalent Samsung.

    I haven't had to dabble with Speedfan. My ASUS motherboard has some neat fan controller software. I can control everything via a nicely designed GUI and while I've tinkered with creating my own fan profiles on it the stock profiles it creates have been very good.

    Edited by Maturin at 19:10:40 15-11-2012
  • Deleted user 15 November 2012 20:11:41
    @MMMarmite

    The Socket 2011 and X79 chipset is good, but not quite workstation class, as it doesn't support ECC memory(iirc) and certainly doesn't support SAS (modern SCSI) like workstations will in place of SATA. These are considered essential workstation class features provided by workstations used for data processing in financial, medical or scientific calculations :).

    The wiki for LGA 2011 does list some server CPUs, in addition to desktop CPUs. But the reference on the wiki of prelaunch review says:

    “Since the LGA 2011 platform is targeted primarily for computer enthusiasts and Intel has no plans so far to launch any low-cost CPU models for it, it seems like we won’t see any inexpensive mainboards for LGA 2011 as well.”

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/lga-2011-idf_4.html
  • MMMarmite 15 Nov 2012 21:12:57 994 posts
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    @Maturin I keep reading that the Samsung drives are more reliable over time, however the read & write figures on the OCZ are none too shabby ;)

    @vizzini make your mind up, are you talking about the socket or the chipset?
  • mikew1985 15 Nov 2012 21:22:28 12,589 posts
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    He's talking shite as per usual, do not bother.
  • superdelphinus 15 Nov 2012 21:24:12 8,016 posts
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    talking about sockets: the sexy side of pc gaming
  • superdelphinus 15 Nov 2012 21:25:32 8,016 posts
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    re ssds, my opinion is verging on invalid, but i'd get the most reliable one over some monumentally imperceptible speed difference. i have a samsung one and it's rapid as fook
  • MMMarmite 15 Nov 2012 21:31:36 994 posts
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    Maybe it is time to stop, I'm starting to feel a bit dumb.

    Any tips on a decent monitor/tv to plug a PC, 360 and PS3 into preferably less than 24" (got a tiny desk)?
  • Deleted user 15 November 2012 22:00:53
    @MMMarmite

    Unlike the LGA1155 mid range dual channel memory CPUs, that have many Intel Chipset options, with varying performance (Z77, H77, B75, Z68, P67, H61). Currently LGA2011 CPUs and LGA1366 CPUs only have one Intel Chipset available for each( X79 and X58 respectively).

    So LGA2011 means X79 or vice versa.

    X79 isn't a workstation class chipset without support for SAS or ECC. It is high-end desktop and entry level server currently. I found these interesting quotes on the LGA2011 wiki which relates back to the lifespan of a socket 2011 system, being talked about earlier,

    “LGA 2011 also has to ensure platform scalability beyond eight cores and 20 MB of cache.
    LGA 2011 will also be compatible with future Ivy Bridge-E processors.”

    Edited by vizzini at 22:03:20 15-11-2012
  • mrpon 15 Nov 2012 22:02:21 28,436 posts
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    You are frightenely dull.

    Give yourself £5 or ½ gig, you're worth it.

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    Christ, he is isn't he?
  • Armoured_Bear 15 Nov 2012 22:44:41 10,267 posts
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    Definitely autistic.

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  • Deleted user 15 November 2012 23:12:56
    @rodpad

    People like you and crispy must be so far up yourselves to believe others won't have valid conflicting advice, that people should at least hear. You hardly even give advice. Instead just pontificate, or childishly insult.

    Personally I don't think anyone with a budget of £1,000 should be anywhere near LGA1155 or need anything more than GTX 660 (if offloading physx to a i7 3820), but I still won't say Armoured_Bear wasted his money on his HTPC setup. He made the choices knowing the arguments, and it was his money.

    Likewise it is INSOMANiAC's money, and knowing more about the options, rather than less, is good for him to make the choice. Whether that damages your EG rep or not as goto advice guy is irrelevant. It isn't your money to tell him to ignore other's undisputed and correct information.
  • graysonavich 15 Nov 2012 23:25:03 7,309 posts
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  • Armoured_Bear 16 Nov 2012 00:05:18 10,267 posts
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    rodpad wrote:
    You can just plug the CPU cooler into any old fan header on the board. Just go into the Bios and turn off the CPU cooler warning.
    I did amend the BIOS, I'll check it again tomorrow.
    Thanks for all your help BTW.

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  • Deleted user 16 November 2012 00:10:01
    @rodpad
    You are still so up your self, that you think you actually proved anything.

    You are effectively imply that all the people working at Intel, AMD, Lenovo/IBM, Dell, ASUS ,etc, on processor, chipset and high performance desktop/workstation design are all autistic, because they would recommend LGA2011 over LGA1155 if the budget allowed, as it is a stronger foundation of a system, when the expensive GPU has become worthless.

    But Tom's hardware says 32bit address space games running under certain conditions doesn't see any improvement on Windows 7 home edition with dual, tripple or quad channel memory, so your technological benefits are useless today(but just on windows), and can't possibly benefit from Windows 8 tomorrow, or general improvements in PC software development, when LGA1155's replacement has a debut chipset that borrows X79 features.
  • Armoured_Bear 16 Nov 2012 00:22:02 10,267 posts
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    vizzini wrote:
    @rodpad


    Personally I don't think anyone with a budget of £1,000 should be anywhere near LGA1155 or need anything more than GTX 660 (if offloading physx to a i7 3820), but I still won't say Armoured_Bear wasted his money on his HTPC setup. He made the choices knowing the arguments, and it was his money.
    @vizzini
    WHat are you suggesting wasted money on?
    Why would you offload PhysX on an NVidia card to an i7 3820 instead of going with a 670/3570k (both combos are a similar price).
    The i7 will give you nothing over the 3570K in gaming but the 670 will perform significantly better than the 660Ti when using plenty of MSAA or higher resolutions due to the differences in memory bandwidth.

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  • Bremenacht 16 Nov 2012 00:22:32 17,608 posts
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    vizzini wrote:
    The conroe system I decommissioned
    Decommissioned!! Hahahahahaha! Do you call your bedroom "The Datacentre"?? :D

    Plllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease tell me you wrote a plan for your decommissioning too?! :D :D :D
  • INSOMANiAC 16 Nov 2012 00:54:34 3,829 posts
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    Bollocks to all that, Ive decided on the FINAL components and am ready to order, just need to know if I've missed anything major or fucked anything up, my eyes are stinging and Amazon keep ballsing up my basket. I've got a keyboard thats decent according to reviews and swapped the WD HD for a Seagate.

    Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus USB 2.0 ATX Case
    Intel 3rd Generation Core i5-3570K CPU
    Gigabyte SKT-1155 Z77X-D3H
    Asus Nvidia GeForce 2GB GTX 670 DirectCU II
    OCZ OCZ600MXSP-UK ModXStream Pro 600W ATX Power Supply
    Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance
    LiteOn IHAS124-19C 24x Internal DVDRW Black
    Seagate Barracuda 3.5 inch 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB 6GB/S Internal SATA Drive
    OCZ AGT3-25SAT3-120G Agility 3 120GB SATA III 2.5 inch SSD

    Thermaltake eSPORTS Challenger Pro Gaming Keyboard
    Logitech G400 Optical Gaming Mouse
    Antistatic Wrist Band

    Edited by INSOMANiAC at 00:55:28 16-11-2012

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  • Deleted user 16 November 2012 01:11:41
    @INSOMANiAC

    The PSU is the same one I went for, and is fine and quiet, only snag was that it isn't well suited to a case with the PSU at the bottom(like mine is). As the mobo power lead connections certainly aren't long enough to route underside of the case, they just made it past the massive heatsink/fan. Also be aware that it only has two PciExpress Power leads/ports, so if SLIing in future, you'd need to use two boards requiring just one each, replace the PSU, or adaptor the spare SATA supplies some how.
  • Bremenacht 16 Nov 2012 01:37:39 17,608 posts
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    INSOMANiAC wrote:
    OCZ AGT3-25SAT3-120G Agility 3 120GB SATA III 2.5 inch SSD
    For just £5 more you can get the latest Samsung 840, if you still prefer to buy from Amazon.

    A lot faster. On the downside, it's relatively new so it's more likely to encounter the odd problem early on. Doubt it though. 3 year manufacturer's warranty too.

    Edited by Bremenacht at 01:38:04 16-11-2012
  • INSOMANiAC 16 Nov 2012 01:48:32 3,829 posts
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    Cheers, Ive changed to the previous PSU,I dont care about extra cables lying about, I dont want to use it as a fish tank so I wont be looking inside, I'll give the Samsung a go and be a guinea pig, sod it.

    Im about to press the 'place your order' and spend a grand.... nervous.... hope to fuck Ive got everything I need and its all compatible, will I need any Sata cables or anything? I'm not sure if the DVD drive has one with it but do you usually get one with the motherboard?

    Just need someone to read over it once more for me and tell me I've got everything and its all correct, cheers!

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  • INSOMANiAC 16 Nov 2012 02:10:00 3,829 posts
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    Fuck it, placed the order. got myself a

    Sharkoon 1337 Gaming Mouse Mat
    and
    Speedlink Medusa NX Stereo Gaming Headset

    and took away the antistatic wrist band as it wont arrive in time and I'll just sit with my foot on radiator like a professional.

    to bring the total to....... dum dum dummmmmmmmm

    £999.62!

    Got it all on free Amazon prime trial so will get it all on Saturday.

    Can't wait to accidentally drop the GPU down the toilet etc, got no clue about building PC's and quite scared of the prospect of all those cables or breaking something.

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