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  • Deckard1 14 Dec 2012 16:07:19 28,262 posts
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    DO IT NOW
  • Deleted user 14 December 2012 16:09:03
    This one's easily google-able, but those who try to work it out themselves shall probably have more fun.

    How many possible permutations does a deck of cards have? And how many shuffles are needed for the deck to be mathematically random?
  • Khanivor 14 Dec 2012 16:09:55 40,858 posts
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    The connection between Lego and Aspirin is they were both made by the same company, Bayer.
  • RedSparrows 14 Dec 2012 16:12:21 22,906 posts
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    ONE BILLION
  • Deleted user 14 December 2012 16:13:56
    Not even vaguely close.

    A clue to those working it out by hand using a calculator - the answer for the first question has sixty-eight digits.
  • imamazed 14 Dec 2012 16:14:42 5,726 posts
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    Nope, not doing any maths thank you
  • Gambit1977 14 Dec 2012 16:15:31 9,804 posts
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    Far too many without copy and pasting...but it's got a zero or two in it
  • Deckard1 14 Dec 2012 16:16:17 28,262 posts
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    52 X 51 x 50 x 49 x 48 x 47......


    its gonna be billions and billions and billions. And billions.

    The shuffling thing I don't know.
  • RedSparrows 14 Dec 2012 16:20:43 22,906 posts
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    ONE MILLION BILLION

    A British trillion, if you will.
  • Deleted user 14 December 2012 16:48:36
    I demand the number.
  • LeoliansBro 14 Dec 2012 16:50:31 44,420 posts
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    Stamp your foot all you want, we're not telling.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Deleted user 14 December 2012 17:21:39
    Feh. FEH. I at least want some guesses for the shuffle question.
  • Deleted user 14 December 2012 17:29:48
    8 x 10^67 (roughly)

    I looked up the other one. It seems to be a matter of personal opinion based on technique used but the number varies between 7-12.
  • Deleted user 14 December 2012 17:38:24
    Close enough. With a standard riffle shuffle, the answer is 7. But that's mathematically random, meaning effectively "cannot be predicted by a computer". To make it humanly random, just one single shuffle is needed to make it beyond the realm of human possibility to accurately predict. Which means people who insist on shuffling several times, cutting the deck inbetween and then still complaining that it's not shuffled enough when their cards are bad are arseholes.

    And the number itself is 80,658,175,170,943,878,571,660,636,856,403,766,
    975,289,505,440,883,277,824,000,000,000,000. Which, to put it in perspective, is greater than the number of atoms that are theorised to make up the entire planet Earth and all its inhabitants.

    Edited by meme at 17:38:49 14-12-2012
  • Deleted user 14 December 2012 17:42:17
    You could have just said 52!, y'know, which is how I calculated it anyway :p
  • EMarkM 14 Dec 2012 17:47:38 3,174 posts
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    Which, to be fair, Deckard1 already said :)
  • Deleted user 14 December 2012 17:53:44
    Not really, he stopped at 47 and then went all Final Fantasy on us.

    Anyway, if it's my turn, here goes:

    Bondurant
    Boyd
    Littell
    Tedrow

    What links them?
  • neilka 14 Dec 2012 17:55:07 16,105 posts
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    All names of people

    Lastly, I am gay, disabled, and a liberal.

  • Deleted user 14 December 2012 18:08:09
    Technically correct but I should throw the book(s) at you for being a pedant.
  • EMarkM 14 Dec 2012 19:50:11 3,174 posts
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    Hmm, only one rings a bell, but I'll give it a shot: Desmond Bagley heroes?
  • Deleted user 14 December 2012 19:57:40
    Nope. Something much more noirish.
  • Deleted user 15 December 2012 13:37:55
    OK, I obviously killed the thread. They're the main characters in James Ellroy's Underworld USA trilogy (American Tabloid, The Cold Six Thousand, and Blood's a Rover).

    Will try another.

    If A = T or U, C = ?
  • Fatiguez 15 Dec 2012 13:52:26 8,744 posts
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    Yes Gremmi, I also watched that episode of QI.

    As for the latest question, is it something to do with that DNA pairing business? Rings a bell somewhat with the particular letters, but I can't remember the rest of them. G and V?
  • Deleted user 15 December 2012 14:27:37
    It's G for Guanine, correct.

    Your turn.
  • Fatiguez 15 Dec 2012 14:44:42 8,744 posts
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    Name the only country in Europe to use the +3 GMT timezone. Russia doesn't count.
  • Stickman 15 Dec 2012 15:00:32 29,666 posts
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    Turkey?

    THIS SPACE FOR RENT

  • mrpon 15 Dec 2012 15:12:31 29,001 posts
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    Just had some thanks.

    Give yourself 5 or gig, you're worth it.

  • elstoof 15 Dec 2012 15:21:21 7,516 posts
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    Do any of the Caucasus count as Europe?
  • Fatiguez 15 Dec 2012 15:33:14 8,744 posts
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    If you want, it isn't any of them anyway
  • RedSparrows 15 Dec 2012 16:44:59 22,906 posts
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    Kaliningrad!

    Or Berlarus, cos that's not Russia.
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