Rab Florence / Lost Humanity

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  • mrharvest 25 Oct 2012 06:31:18 5,184 posts
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    He is the best columnist writing for EG at the moment. It's almost like the EG of old when the reviews were scathing and the opinions brutal.

    On the other hand he is a whiney prick who uses his own taste as the yardstick for excellence. Which is exactly as it should be. I started reading EG because the writers said what they thought or at least it appeared that way. Halo got an 8 because the reviewer thought it deserved that.
  • X201 25 Oct 2012 06:46:15 15,143 posts
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    Its only been a week since Christian Donlan was the best writer on EG. Seems like the old EG really is back :-)
  • Rusty_M 25 Oct 2012 07:14:07 4,584 posts
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    The Lost Humanity articles really are very enjoyable to read. One of them lost me a bit, but the most recent one about sneaking into his families' houses was hilarious.

    The gaming press needs more opinion pieces that don't amount to putting a score to a game.

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  • Armoured_Bear 25 Oct 2012 07:21:41 10,293 posts
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    Rab Florence is awesome, his comedy series , Burnistoun is hit and miss but superb when good.

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  • lucky_jim 25 Oct 2012 08:38:27 5,258 posts
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    I only really became aware of Rab when his Independint Charles Show was on XBL, been a big fan ever since. There's something about his writing style that takes me back to the glory days of Your Sinclair and Amiga Power.
  • brokenkey 25 Oct 2012 09:07:56 6,945 posts
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    I thought Robert Florence was better.

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  • X201 25 Oct 2012 12:58:15 15,143 posts
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    "Yesterday was my last piece for Eurogamer. Here it is in amended form. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-24-lost-humanity-18-a-table-of-doritos … I stand by every word of the original piece."

    https://twitter.com/robertflorence/status/261432457017057280
  • onestepfromlost 25 Oct 2012 13:04:22 2,039 posts
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    well there goes a bit of entertainment from here. article amended due to a complaint? unless that statement was actionably defamatory then it should have stood.
  • jellyhead 25 Oct 2012 13:07:29 24,350 posts
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    Rab is great, consolevania was awesome and this whole debacle is casting a shitty light over all involved and making everyone look bad.

    Good on Rab for calling it and it's a shame he felt he had to resign due to legal action for quoting something someone said in public.

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    Surely someone proof read it and gave it the OK to be published.

    There goes my brief sojourn on the EG front page.
  • onestepfromlost 25 Oct 2012 13:12:53 2,039 posts
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    does anyone know what the removed part was? or is there a way to view the original? wasnt there some way of viewing old pages on the net? Im just rather curious.
  • Rusty_M 25 Oct 2012 13:13:56 4,584 posts
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    I missed what was originally posted. Is there any way to link to it without bringing legal action to EG?

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  • jamievilla 25 Oct 2012 13:14:07 508 posts
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    I fail to see how him quoting a message from that particular person and then questioning their motives is libellous but I understand why EG felt they had to amend the article. Still fucking scandalous though, basically reinforces the point he was making x millions. A corrupt dirty industry, anyone who tries to criticise gets slapped down.

    Journalists? Bullshit.

    Oh and the original article is on the neogaf forums. If you're on Twitter then John Walker (@botherer) has also linked the original story.

    Edited by jamievilla at 13:15:24 25-10-2012
  • jellyhead 25 Oct 2012 13:15:00 24,350 posts
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    Post #48.

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  • onestepfromlost 25 Oct 2012 13:26:07 2,039 posts
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    oh right i did manage to read it just before it got edited. This is fucking mental. The statement was in no way defamatory. It a bloody quote from her tweet for fuck sake. The comments after are based on the author (rab) opinion, again menaing its not defamatory as the opinion is not based on malice. EG editing this is a totally cowardly move and ive in a matter of seconds lost a ton of respect for them
  • thedaveeyres 25 Oct 2012 13:29:35 10,692 posts
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    This fucking stinks.

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    Just goes on to prove his point.

    Gaming is fucking incredibly immature at times. I wish him best for future.
  • AaronTurner 25 Oct 2012 13:45:04 7,594 posts
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    Well I missed all this. If you're going to tweet an advert for a chance to win a ps3 then how much does it take to break you come review time?
  • X201 25 Oct 2012 13:45:08 15,143 posts
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    I can sense the Streisand effect building.
  • FanBoysSuck 25 Oct 2012 13:45:20 1,451 posts
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    Wow this is well fucked up. I just got chatting to a few mates on Facebook about the original article saying eurogamer was one of the sites with integrity. There's goes my respect :(

    Edit: I'd just like to say sorry for questioning Eurogamers integrity after reading Tom's blog post. I really should have had more faith.

    Edited by FanBoysSuck at 12:49:38 30-10-2012

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  • Rusty_M 25 Oct 2012 13:52:26 4,584 posts
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    This is a real shame. I don't blame EG. Whether or not any legal action would have been successful, defending it can be very costly.

    I hope this gains enough momentum to make some waves. I liked Rab's writing and it fit well with Eurogamer's style. As I said, games writing needs more pieces like Lost Humanity.

    It's things like this and the issues mentioned in Lost Humanity that make me want to start my own games site. If I did, it'd probably be shit though. I've never even written a review.

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  • Feanor 25 Oct 2012 13:53:34 14,061 posts
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    Wainwright has protected her tweets now, but with any luck this will ruin her career.
  • onestepfromlost 25 Oct 2012 13:55:26 2,039 posts
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    Feanor wrote:
    Wainwright has protected her tweets now, but with any luck this will ruin her career.
    it wont though the only thing ruined will be respect for EG
  • thedaveeyres 25 Oct 2012 13:56:53 10,692 posts
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    Indeed. I can't understand how quoting publicly available tweets could be libellous (but then I'm not a lawyer). Ah well, let the bully win then - far less hassle.

    Edited by thedaveeyres at 13:57:40 25-10-2012

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  • lucky_jim 25 Oct 2012 13:58:55 5,258 posts
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    The most disgraceful thing about this for me is that a supposed "journalist" is willing to go to these measures to silence a fellow writer. What sites does Wainwright write for (try saying that after a few beers) other than her own blog? I want to make a serious effort to avoid every last one of them.
  • jellyhead 25 Oct 2012 14:01:10 24,350 posts
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    As i said in the comments. Fighting a Libel case in the UK is very expensive and with very little chance of recovering costs from the other party when they won EG probably decided it wasn't worth fighting and withdrew the relevant paragraph.

    Unfortunately the cat is now out of the bag and riding along with the bolted horse so closing the barn doors at this point is worthless.

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  • onestepfromlost 25 Oct 2012 14:04:05 2,039 posts
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    any lawyer worth his salt that she approached to take her case would tell her she had no chance.
  • thedaveeyres 25 Oct 2012 14:08:31 10,692 posts
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    Good article from John Walker

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  • Feanor 25 Oct 2012 14:12:02 14,061 posts
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    EG also took out the comment about the Dave Cook. Much as I like Bramwell, his site's credibility has gone down the toilet.
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