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  • tenofspades 29 Oct 2012 21:44:52 1,698 posts
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    Kindle Fire and Nexus 7 are upping the competition ahead of the Mini's launch. Kindle Fire slating the Mini in their advertisement, and Nexus 7 with a price drop.
  • Blaizefm 30 Oct 2012 07:48:25 232 posts
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    It's an interesting battle between different companies with different ideas on where the profits are coming from. I hope there isn't a clear winner and we all benefit from competition. No monopoly here please.
  • dominalien 30 Oct 2012 08:26:45 7,065 posts
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    @Blaizefm

    Hm, I'm not really sure about the "no monopoly" thing. Everyone seems perfectly happy with a monopoly in the PC space:

    - no need to consult with others what system to buy, it's enough that you have to worry about what hardware to get,
    - software vendors need only make and test their products on one system in a couple of versions,
    - every software vendor who enters the PC space immediately has a huge potential market with a minimal investment (just one computer, with one system, with one SDK will do),
    - users can be sure their existing software will work well whatever computer they buy next,
    - if there's problems after you buy a new computer with transferring documents, etc, you have a single vendor you can go to, instead of multiple ones who will all try to shift the blame to the other,

    I could go on.

    Edit: Yes, I'm trolling just a little bit, but in the case of computer systems, having just one that everybody uses has huge, huge benefits for us consumers.

    Edited by dominalien at 08:31:22 30-10-2012

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  • Deleted user 30 October 2012 08:28:28
    Sucks when companies can't manage to he clever with their advertising and resort to cheap shots.
  • THFourteen 30 Oct 2012 10:01:35 34,452 posts
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    TBH all that Apple really has left going for it in the tablet space are nice designs and the iOS store. If Android or Windows ever catch up in app store terms, then there will be a fight on.

    For the time being, those two things are enough to me (and a lot of people) to still pay a 150 premium on an ipad over a nexus 7
  • CharlieStCloud 31 Oct 2012 08:40:01 5,510 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    TBH all that Apple really has left going for it in the tablet space are nice designs and the iOS store.
    Looks like you are right because the likes of Engadget and The Verge are gushing over the design and ecosystem whilst hardly paying much attention to the boring unchanged iOS and the lllooowww resolution ... and the price! They seem perfectly happy with the price ...

    ... : S

    Oh, and the technology guy who writes for the Guardian gave it five stars and everyone in the comments is taking the piss!

    The entry level iPad mini is a whooping 69% dearer than the 16GB Nexus 7 ... madness.
  • Tonka 31 Oct 2012 09:11:29 21,330 posts
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    Calling an Appstore an ecosystem has got to stop.

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • monkman76 31 Oct 2012 09:56:38 5,369 posts
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    CharlieStCloud wrote:

    Oh, and the technology guy who writes for the Guardian gave it five stars and everyone in the comments is taking the piss!
    The article and the video accompanying it are laughably bad - hard to believe the guy gets paid for this.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/oct/31/ipad-mini-review
  • yegon 31 Oct 2012 11:12:19 5,412 posts
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    Haha, that Guardian review is a bit kool aid. I think 4:3 IS better for tablets, but comparing videos with different aspect ratios to flatter one gadget over the other? That's really poor form.
  • Deleted user 31 October 2012 11:19:38
    Tonka wrote:
    Calling an Appstore an ecosystem has got to stop.
    It's not just the AppStore, the cloud is the bigger tie-in.
  • Tonka 31 Oct 2012 12:40:11 21,330 posts
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    ?

    Are you talking about iCloud? It's not as if having off gadget storage at a monthly rate is something unique to Apple in any way.

    But I get the ecosystem thing. It's just that it's increasingly used to describe a well stocked Appstore.

    "I'd like to switch to Android but they don't have a functioning ecosystem. No iAWriter or Tweetbot"

    Things like that. The Apple ecosystem IS good. With iTunes playing over your iPad on your AppleTV enriched TV. Or music streaming over AirPlay to the Jawbone with AirPlay support etc etc.

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • THFourteen 31 Oct 2012 13:40:20 34,452 posts
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    @CharlieStCloud that Engadget review made me want one even more.
  • Deleted user 31 October 2012 13:41:04
    A cloud system not being unique is irrelevant, it's the content that's held there I.e. cloud access to all your music and films already bought/uploaded.

    For instance, all mine is on there, not amazon or google.
  • Carlo 31 Oct 2012 13:45:22 18,214 posts
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    Google will be enabling music cloud storage in Europe (not every country initially) on the 23rd.

    Free for 20,000 songs (instead of 22 from Apple?) this extends the backups for your phone they already have rolled out, and contact sync, 'cloud' storage space for docs, books, and film.

    http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/10/31/google-playmusic-haeding-to-the-uk-and-urope-this-november/

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  • Carlo 31 Oct 2012 13:46:47 18,214 posts
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    By the way, when I tested it on my PC (i needed to proxy enable my account) it scans itunes music and Windows Media stored music.

    PSN ID: Djini

  • mcmonkeyplc 31 Oct 2012 13:50:50 39,559 posts
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    What justifies the extra 110?

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • THFourteen 31 Oct 2012 14:11:52 34,452 posts
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    When the ps3 came out and it cost 100 quid more than the xbox, nobody had to justify their purchase.

    People bought one because they wanted to play all the ps3 exclusives.

    It's exactly the same.
  • mcmonkeyplc 31 Oct 2012 14:13:24 39,559 posts
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    You talking about the games?

    Fuck that. :p

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • THFourteen 31 Oct 2012 14:19:01 34,452 posts
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    Also look and feel. Why buy a rolex when you can tell time with a ten quid casio.

    To some people that is important. Ipad generally feels more high end than the budget tablets.
  • yegon 31 Oct 2012 14:56:20 5,412 posts
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    I've a Galaxy Tab 7.7. Hardware is the match of Apple stuff - better than mini in a lot of ways, better screen, twice the ram, comparable processor, epic battery life - yet software and performance sucks donkey balls, even running a clean rom like CyanogenMod9. Roll on the mini. Screen res aside, looks to be a good marriage of software, performance and design.....at a steep price. I'm willing to pay that price, heyho.

    Edited by yegon at 15:04:50 31-10-2012
  • Psychotext 31 Oct 2012 15:21:10 55,031 posts
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    Talking of which, I'm about to buy a bunch of the 3G nexus 7s for work. But they're a damn sight better than the piss poor Galaxy Tabs (what we originally developed on).
  • yegon 31 Oct 2012 15:30:44 5,412 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Talking of which, I'm about to buy a bunch of the 3G nexus 7s for work. But they're a damn sight better than the piss poor Galaxy Tabs (what we originally developed on).
    Probably, but don't lump the 7.7 with the rest of the Tabs. Widely regarded as the best of the lot, but again at a premium price. I exaggerate when I say it sucks donkey balls performance wise, it's fine for browsing and video etc, but given the specs it's baffling how it's notably less smooth than even old iPads, and the 1gb appears to achieve bog all when multitasking and opening multiple tabs etc. I'm sure Nexus 7s running vanilla android will be better performance wise though.

    Edited by yegon at 15:31:43 31-10-2012
  • PrivateFloyd 31 Oct 2012 15:44:41 4,189 posts
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    Anyone had their dispatch email yet?

    Goat is hungry.....

  • THFourteen 31 Oct 2012 16:40:49 34,452 posts
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    Nah, still says delivers by 2nd Nov tho.

    Nothing on my 4G one yet. Am guessing early December before it arrives :-(
  • KayJay 31 Oct 2012 16:41:05 5,290 posts
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    I cancelled my online order.
    Just going to head down to Basingstoke on Sunday morning I think. Didn't have to much trouble getting my iPhone 5 on the first Sunday after launch.

    So hopefully I wont have any problems.
  • lordofdeadside 31 Oct 2012 18:06:51 1,162 posts
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    Shipment notification email, woo! Roll on friday!
  • Moot_Point 31 Oct 2012 19:11:05 4,594 posts
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    I am very tempted to get the 64Gb model. /Decisions

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  • beastmaster 31 Oct 2012 19:28:38 11,962 posts
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    @Moot_Point

    Do it! You'll regret it otherwise.

    The Resident Evil films. I'm one of the reasons they keep making them.

  • Blaizefm 31 Oct 2012 20:42:51 232 posts
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    @dominalien

    Nope, disagree. A monopoly begats stagnation. Just because something is ubiquitous doesn't mean it is good. It just means we are all at the same level.

    The smartphone/tablet war needs competition. I'm a huge Apple fan but the last thing I want is Apple dominating this space. Same goes for google and Amazon. Choice is great.
  • yegon 1 Nov 2012 08:25:13 5,412 posts
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    Smart Cover arrived yesterday, extortionately expensive coaster till late November :(
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