mal wrote:Yes, turnover is irrelevant. There's even a quote from a Labour MP expressing the tax paid as a % of turnover, which is ridiculous. Not sticking up for them, but it could be expressed better.DaM wrote:Are you referring the the Guardian article? Cos all I can see there is a reference to 3bn sales, over the last 14 years. Sales != turnover, as I assume you know.
And not sure why they talk about 3bn turnover - you only pay corp tax on profit - eg after you've paid for everything else. I imagine they pay their child coffee pickers a heap
Although I guess you're making the point that sales!=profit?
Starbucks has paid just £8.6m taxes on £3bn UK sales since 1998 • Page 5
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DaM 11,742 posts
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BurnoutJunkie 528 posts
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Registered 8 years agomal wrote:
I'm not an expert on this, just like the drink. For your benefit, I pulled this from Wikipedia:
What the flying fuck is a chai latte? A tea made with steamed milk and spices with more steamed milk (assuming the espresso is omitted for sanity)? But still, milky tea?
Or is it just Chai for stupid wankers? Chai already contains milk.
Numerous coffee houses use the term chai latte for their version to indicate that the steamed milk of a normal latte is being flavored with a spiced tea concentrate instead of with espresso, without necessarily implying the addition of coffee. Some coffeehouses and brand names refer to their product as chai tea latte.
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Registered 7 years agoErm...mal wrote:
Yes, it is. Sales/revenue/turnover is the same thing.
Sales != turnover, as I assume you know.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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LeoliansBro 35,095 posts
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Registered 7 years agoAnd I wonder what the gross VAT they've paid over that time is, given that all that ultimately ends up with HMRC.
Not saying they haven't been shifty and clever, just that this is red meat to the under-read wannabe liberals out there and the Guardian has a knowing, cynical, tabloid habit of giving the people what they want.
Edited by LeoliansBro at 20:43:19 16-10-2012LB, you really are a massive geek.
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thelzdking 3,387 posts
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LeoliansBro 35,095 posts
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Registered 7 years agoI assume therefore that weak drinks are for the hot.
/sets up barley water franchiseLB, you really are a massive geek.
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neilka 12,009 posts
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Registered 8 years agoWeak lemon drinks are to be drunk NOW.if you have nothing intresting to say then you might as well just throw your bags on the truck and drive away
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mcmothercruncher 3,266 posts
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Registered 7 years agoStarbucks is the coffee chain for people that like coffee that an 11 year old would like. -
skuzzbag 5,180 posts
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Registered 9 years agoMy own urine has a better more rounded flavour to be frank. -
elstoof 4,420 posts
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Registered 8 years agoSpiced tea concentrate.. Yummy. How could anyone not love the idea of boiled down tea, a thick and syrupy concentrate with added spice flavourings, bottled and preserved then added to steamed milk. -
TheSaint 11,598 posts
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Registered 7 years agoelstoof wrote:
But it tastes so good.
Spiced tea concentrate.. Yummy. How could anyone not love the idea of boiled down tea, a thick and syrupy concentrate with added spice flavourings, bottled and preserved then added to steamed milk. -
ronuds 20,509 posts
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Registered 7 years agoDoesn't sound too bad, if you like tea. Which I don't. But if I did!!
I just get their hot chocolate and soft butter cookie things that are delicious. I have family who work at one, so all gratis, of course. I wouldn't go otherwise.
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Bremenacht 11,167 posts
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Registered 6 years agoskuzzbag wrote:
I'll try a grande then please.
My own urine has a better more rounded flavour to be frank.This post is unsuitable for those with a high rumour-sensitivity.
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graysonavich 4,159 posts
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Registered 3 years agoIt's amusing how people get so uppity about choice of coffee franchise.
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Registered 10 years agoWhy do people keep banging on about the Guardian? They have no more to do with it than every other media outlet that's picked up the story. -
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Registered 7 years agoWhy is it Starbucks fault that the government let's them get away with this?
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Registered 11 years agoLeoliansBro wrote:
Bah, I suppose you're right in this context, as I assume Starbucks aren't making massive profits from investments, and their income from their store in a store operations probably doesn't come to much against their sales of (barely) consumable liquids.
Erm...mal wrote:
Yes, it is. Sales/revenue/turnover is the same thing.
Sales != turnover, as I assume you know.Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!
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sport 10,903 posts
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Registered 7 years agoStarbucks are doing buy one get one free on their christmas red cups drinks:
gingerbread lattee
eggnogg lattee
prauline mocha
This weekend only - from Fri 2nd Nov until Mon 5th Nov.
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Registered 8 years agoWhat the fuck, are those drinks serious?
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TheSaint 11,598 posts
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Registered 7 years agoAaronTurner wrote:
You've never heard of them before?
What the fuck, are those drinks serious?
I hope anyone that drinks that muck dies a slow, agonising death.
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senso-ji 4,539 posts
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Registered 5 years agoI cringed while watching this
Not sure why Amazon employ someone who comes across as incompetent (I'm sure he's not). If they don't want to disclose their financials then they should make that clear before the questioning starts. -
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Registered 10 years agoEl Reg - Google, Amazon, Starbucks are 'immoral' and 'ridiculous' over UK tax.
It seems like Google didn't send a chimp at least. Amazon looking like they don't give a fig could go badly for them later on.This signature intentionally left blank.
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Ginger 6,748 posts
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Registered 11 years agoWhere was morality when all the MPs were caught with their hands in the expenses jar?
The MPs seem to be just grandstanding for the select committee cameras at the minute, without fully understanding that they've created and perpetuated the system that these companies operate in.London open taekwondo champion
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jellyhead 24,346 posts
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Registered 10 years agoOr they're grandstanding while they work out how to close this loophole and open another one for their mates' companies to use.This signature intentionally left blank.
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TheSaint 11,598 posts
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Registered 7 years agoReading a story on The Guardian website.
Found via a Google search.
Using your Vodafone data connection.
Tethered to your MacBook.
That you brought from Amazon.
While drinking a Starbucks Latte.
Creative accounting Bingo! -
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Someone please think of the shareholders.
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