GTA IV was painfully boring. "No I don't want to go bowling, fuck off."
That's a different discussion though.
That's a different discussion though.
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morriss 69,391 posts
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anthonypappa 1,398 posts
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Registered 2 years agoyou're painfully boring. you only need to go bowling once. it's like 5 minutes out of a 100 hour game.
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Registered 4 years agoIt's no real surprise that the official magazines bump up scores on exclusives. I still remember the score official PS2 magazine gave Primal. After buying the game off that review I instantly swore never to read an official console manufacturers magazine again. I picked up Edge not long after (the one with the "are you bored of video games?" cover caught my eye on the way to view a university). Never looked back.
Forgive me! I was young and naive!For the emperor!
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anthonypappa wrote:
OR more likely he's referring to when Nico's friends call him asking to hang out. Constantly.
you're painfully boring. you only need to go bowling once. it's like 5 minutes out of a 100 hour game.
just shows you haven't really played it, now get off the bandwagon.
Honestly, touchy much?Follow me on Twitter: @MrTom
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anthonypappa 1,398 posts
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Registered 2 years agothe phone can still be turned off so you don't need to go to the bother of tapping a button to hang up on the motherfucker.
not really an issue... at all. but it gets reliably rolled out whenever people talk about GTA 4 - like it's an integral and major part of the game, which couldn't be futher from the truth.
so it is very much a bandwagon statement.
lets hope it's not in the next one, we hear more from the people complaining about it, then we actually hear from it in-game. -
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anthonypappa wrote:
Turning off the phone stops the story from progressing, it warns you as such when you go to turn it off. I'd call the story stopping "integral and major". Wouldn't you?
the phone can still be turned off so you don't need to go to the bother of tapping a button to hang up on the motherfucker.
not really an issue... at all. but it gets reliably rolled out whenever people talk about GTA 4 - like it's an integral and major part of the game, which couldn't be futher from the truth.
so it is very much a bandwagon statement.
lets hope it's not in the next one, we hear more from the people complaining about it, then we actually hear from it in-game.Follow me on Twitter: @MrTom
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dsmx 6,864 posts
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Registered 8 years agoOr you know they could of just made it so if you wanted to go bowling you called them otherwise they just shut the fuck up and let you get with playing through the game that looked like you were watching it through a used coffee filter."If we hit that bullseye the rest of the dominoes will fall like a a house of cards, checkmate." Zapp Brannigan
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Tonka 18,170 posts
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Registered 9 years agoBowling? Is that an euphemism for beating the shit out of some snitch?If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.
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anthonypappa 1,398 posts
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Registered 2 years agoMrTomFTW wrote:Turning off the phone stops the story from progressing, it warns you as such when you go to turn it off. I'd call the story stopping "integral and major". Wouldn't you?
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nickthegun 44,589 posts
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Registered 7 years agoits stupid and annoying, thats whats wrong with that.---------------------------------------------------------
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morriss 69,391 posts
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Registered 9 years agoDrive me here, then here, then here and oh wait, then back there. Now shoot some people, run away, drive after this car for 15 fucking minutes, shoot some more people, escape the police watch a 10 minute animated cut scene.
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Registered 7 years agoI'm on GTA IV's side, but the phone was easily one of the worst parts of the game. Yeah, you could turn it off, but it wasn't to your benefit (other than avoiding the constant annoyance).
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disusedgenius 4,848 posts
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Registered 6 years agoThe phone was one of those things which is ok if you can sink a few hours into the game at a time. If you're one of these fuddy-duddy 'I only have 30 minutes to sneak in a quick game before I need to do some work or change a nappy or mow the lawn or have sex with my wife' types then, yeah, it starts to drag a bit.
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mikew1985 9,705 posts
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Registered 6 years agoYep it's a great game, some people don't like it, but because others really like it, said people vociferously dislike it.
Cyclical pointless arguments ensue and everybody goes home grumpy.
Let's move on shall we.
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ecureuil 74,177 posts
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Yeah, this sort of game works best when you can totally absorb yourself in the world.
The phone was one of those things which is ok if you can sink a few hours into the game at a time. If you're one of these fuddy-duddy 'I only have 30 minutes to sneak in a quick game before I need to do some work or change a nappy or mow the lawn or have sex with my wife' types then, yeah, it starts to drag a bit.
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Kanjin 631 posts
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Registered 5 years agomikew1985 wrote:
Hey, most forum threads summed up in one helpful phrase.
Yep it's a great game, some people don't like it, but because others really like it, said people vociferously dislike it.
Cyclical pointless arguments ensue and everybody goes home grumpy.
Let's move on shall we. -
ecureuil 74,177 posts
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Registered 5 years agoReally glad to see the tabloid wannabes at CVG get a kicking. Loathsome website -
jonsaan 24,234 posts
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Registered 7 years agoThis sort of bitter rant by an ex employee sounds like any big company to my ears. Business is business. Creativity and staff welfare tend to take a backseat. It's just the way of the world.FCUTA!
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bobdebob 254 posts
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Registered 2 years agoI thought nothing could top the MPs expense scandel(!).
I stopped trusting mag reviews quite a while ago when they just used the 5-10 end of the scale and every preview was nothing but positivity.
The MGS4 reviews were ones that showed me how reliable mag reviews really were, I don't think a single one of them mentioned the 45 minute cutscenes, the miniscule amount of gameplay or the fact you had to install each act individually.
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Eurogamer has its own hit-centric articles like the dating site thing that came up 3 times or the review of Mafia 2 which was given 4/10.
Really glad to see the tabloid wannabes at CVG get a kicking. Loathsome website
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NOSAVIOUR 2,724 posts
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Registered 7 years agoAD's make magazines possible. Nothing surprising here. You can hardly expect an advertiser to pay £1500 for a page if the mag they are advertising in has given their game a low score. -
anthonypappa 1,398 posts
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Registered 2 years agowhy not? if you have the readship you are in a strong position.
i've seen ads on EG in the run up to a game release, then EG give it a 'low' score. makes me smile. it's called integrity.
i don't know what standard practice is - if freelancers get to score their own reviews, but the CVG RE6 review was laughable. this guy slated the hell out of it, then CVG slap a totally different score on it.
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Registered 9 years agoNOSAVIOUR wrote:
This is true, though if the game is truly terrible that's hardly the magazine's fault.
AD's make magazines possible. Nothing surprising here. You can hardly expect an advertiser to pay £1500 for a page if the mag they are advertising in has given their game a low score.I'm a grumpy bastard.
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Registered 3 years ago@NOSAVIOUR - without independence and integrity magazines and websites are pointless. If advertisers can buy a review score, we might as well just hear hoe great the game is straight from the developers.
Its interesting to see the guy mention homefront. That got brilliant early reviews but when the rest of the gaming world starter reviewing it a week later they all thought it was average. It was quite clearly a paid for early exclusive deal which Future have a reputation for doing. -
jonsaan 24,234 posts
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I think it's more about the fact that it was a huge step
Yep it's a great game, some people don't like it, but because others really like it, said people vociferously dislike it.
Cyclical pointless arguments ensue and everybody goes home grumpy.
Let's move on shall we.
backwards for a lot of things GtA has previously done so well. Free roaming outside of the missions felt lifeless and dull. The music was very one dimensional too.FCUTA!
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pinebear 8,555 posts
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Registered 7 years agoandytheadequate wrote:
Or an early embargo lift for outlets that scored the game highly - not paid for directly, but a higher score encouraged by means of an implied increase in advertising revenue generated by site traffic.
Its interesting to see the guy mention homefront. That got brilliant early reviews but when the rest of the gaming world starter reviewing it a week later they all thought it was average. It was quite clearly a paid for early exclusive deal which Future have a reputation for doing.
Either way, there should be greater awareness that early scores, first reviews, exclusives and the like do not necessarily indicate a consensus.
As an aside, there have been instances of magazine or website pullquotes being quietly removed from advertising material when said outlet then delivers a particularly damning final assessment.ツ
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Tonka 18,170 posts
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Registered 9 years agoThe problem here is that game journos see themselves as part of the industry. Hell I suspect that game devs see them as that as well.
Look at film reviews in the newspapers as a refreshing alternative to the nepotistical relatioship gamesites/mags have with the developers. A shit film get shit scores. Biggest percieved problem with film reviews is the snobbism of the reviwers.
In order for this to happen gaming needs to grow up and become a mature pasttime. A quick glance at the boothbabe at the expos thread tell me this won't happen any time soon.If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.
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They are part of the industry and have been since the industry began, they're a vital marketing and PR tool as evidenced by this entire fucking thread.
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