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  • Sid-Nice 3 Oct 2012 15:28:08 15,851 posts
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    TheSaint wrote:
    You have to feel sorry for the girls really, that's a pretty demeaning way to have to earn a crust.
    That's why they all use Canesten.

    NNID Sid-Nice

  • mcmonkeyplc 3 Oct 2012 15:28:51 39,467 posts
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    The expo is filled with normal girls?! Where do I sign up for next year?!

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • mikeck 3 Oct 2012 15:29:58 1,936 posts
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    I'm going to cosplay as a booth babe next year and nobody can stop me!
  • Cosplayer 3 Oct 2012 15:31:26 2 posts
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    As a female cosplayer who has always loved Eurogamer, I feel really sad that this has happened. I spend ages making costumes and things to support my games. As a female fan of many of the games at Eurogamer, I love to show my support by being creative and fun. Especially since there are so few women who attend these events, I love seeing how booth babes are dressed and how cool they look as various ingame charecters. It's part of the theatre of the event. Now I am worried if I show up dressed as Lara Croft or a charecter who wears armour I'll be taken aside and made to put on leggings or something.

    I feel embarrassed, ashamed and unincluded.
    Let the games speak for themselves? Are you going to stop companies give away laptops when their games have nothing to do with them? You going to set a limit on how expensive booths can be? It seems the only thing you have done is made the girls who did show up, feel even more awkward. Thanks a bunch.
  • Zappanale 3 Oct 2012 15:33:32 84 posts
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    Cosplayer, I don't think this policy will affect people such as yourself. Could someone from EG please clarify?

    Edited by Zappanale at 15:33:46 03-10-2012
  • kinky_mong 3 Oct 2012 15:33:45 10,431 posts
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    mowgli wrote:
    Where are they dictating what women can wear? It is a pretty clear policy, and one that should be applauded.
    At this year’s show three companies showed up with booth babes. Two in particular we thought were dressed inappropriately. As a short term measure we told them to move into the 18+ zone, and we asked some of them to put on leggings as well.
    That seems a bit over the top to me, covering up excessive cleavage I can understand but legs?!

    And to bang a tired old drum, it's amusing that there's an issue over booth babes sexing up the place but not of showing off games involving dismemberment, murder, "torture-porn", and other acts of extreme violence, not all of them restricted to an 18+ area.

    Won't somebody please think of the children?!

    All the eurogamers who actually play with each other on xbl rather than just post pseudointellectual pc handwringing bollocks on the forums, love the shit out of biggy.

  • Scurrminator 3 Oct 2012 15:34:12 8,436 posts
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    Um, they haven't said no cosplay.
    They said no booth babes. What's your beef?
    And come on - name and shame the companies please! At least the people that went can do that if not the staff ;-)

    You dare to strike Scurrcules!?

  • HiddenAway 3 Oct 2012 15:34:38 14,918 posts
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    @Cosplayer Please read rauper's additional comment here (earlier in the thread).

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  • Retroid Moderator 3 Oct 2012 15:34:42 44,973 posts
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    Hear hear, Rauper. It simply does not do either the Expo or gaming's image any good whatsoever to have 'Dolly birds' wandering around a male-dominated environment and posing for bloody photos with them.

    Feels cheap, tacky and frankly patronising to everyone.
    CeaslessDischarge wrote:
    Truly pathetic behaviour
    Well, at least you have some personal insight into your post.
  • craigy Staff 3 Oct 2012 15:34:46 7,718 posts
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    @Cosplayer the policy Rupert wrote about only affects "booth babes" who are employed by the exhibitors, not attendees who cosplay -- we encourage you to attend the Expo dressed as whoever you like!
  • warlockuk 3 Oct 2012 15:35:55 19,185 posts
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    Cosplayer wrote:
    I feel embarrassed, ashamed and ficticious.
    Quite.

    I'm a grumpy bastard.

  • rauper Staff 3 Oct 2012 15:35:57 3,322 posts
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    Cosplayer: This has got nothing todo with cosplayers or attendees. As mentioned above, if Square want to bring along Lara Croft - or a gamer wants to dress as Lara Croft, that's absolutely fine. Cosplayers can dress however they like at the show.

    We're talking about a couple of isolated incidents where the exhibitor's booth babes added no value to the event but did make some attendees feel uncomfortable and/or paint the event & games industry in a poor light.
  • MetalDog 3 Oct 2012 15:36:09 23,725 posts
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    @LeoliansBro I am thinking about demographics. When you're sending a message to such a large chunk of the population that 'this isn't for you' for no good reason, I don't think that's sensible.

    Unless the game is something like Leisure Suit Larry, it just doesn't make any sense to put off potential buyers with irrelevant T&A. There is a reasonable chunk of womanhood who likes to shoot things, drive things and fly things and there will probably be even more of them in the future as games gain a better reputation.

    Honestly, we can't get away from the 'teenage boy in bedroom' image for gaming fast enough imo.

    -- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

  • MisaMisa 3 Oct 2012 15:36:22 47 posts
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    I'm also a cosplayer but I agree with what Eurogamer has done here. As an industry professional this event is a gaming event, there are already plenty of opportunities for cosplay elsewhere. Although, cosplay does not usually equal anything that would be on a par with a 'booth babe' so you should still be able cosplay without any hassle.

    The problem is that 'booth babes' are brought in with very little knowledge of the product they are selling, not because they love the product and want to express their creativity. This is where it differs from cosplay.

    I feel that booth babes alienate female industry professionals because it is using women as a marketing tool for video games. So I personally think the fact that this has happened will help include females more, not exclude them.
  • kinky_mong 3 Oct 2012 15:36:24 10,431 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    The expo is filled with normal girls?! Where do I sign up for next year?!
    "Filled" is a massive over-exaggeration. There were a few ranging from hot cosplayers dressed as Juliet from Lollipop Chainsaw, to "Dear god! Who's stopping the Billy Goats Gruff crossing the bridge if you're here?!"

    All the eurogamers who actually play with each other on xbl rather than just post pseudointellectual pc handwringing bollocks on the forums, love the shit out of biggy.

  • Load_2.0 3 Oct 2012 15:37:39 19,441 posts
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    So no Dead or Alive next year right?

    Gaming srs bsns.
  • warlockuk 3 Oct 2012 15:37:48 19,185 posts
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    I can see why they're doing it, too. Some recent games have been so shit that they'll need a bit of minge to detract from how utterly awful their products are.

    Ah, reminds me of ECTS in... 2003, I think it was, where they had ladies promoting one of the Postal wearing next to nothing. Was quite creepy watching folks get their pictures taken.

    I'm a grumpy bastard.

  • nickthegun 3 Oct 2012 15:37:53 60,428 posts
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    WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE COSPLAYERS?!?

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  • Retroid Moderator 3 Oct 2012 15:38:36 44,973 posts
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    kinky_mong wrote:
    That seems a bit over the top to me, covering up excessive cleavage I can understand but legs?!

    They were wearing incredibly small hotpants. Trust me.
    And to bang a tired old drum, it's amusing that there's an issue over booth babes sexing up the place but not of showing off games involving dismemberment, murder, "torture-porn", and other acts of extreme violence, not all of them restricted to an 18+ area.
    It's a games expo and those were the games.

    It wasn't a 'pretty ladies with nothing whatsoever to do with games but wandering around & posing for photos with lonely men' expo.

    Those are in Soho ;p

    Edit: bloody quoting on a mobile!

    Edited by Retroid at 15:42:45 03-10-2012
  • psychokitten Moderator 3 Oct 2012 15:38:50 7,794 posts
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    Of course it's an exaggeration, it's just in comparison to how things used to be, really. There's a massive difference.
  • mrpon 3 Oct 2012 15:39:59 29,183 posts
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    Can we ban fat smelly people as well?

    Give yourself £5 or ½ gig, you're worth it.

  • Retroid Moderator 3 Oct 2012 15:40:08 44,973 posts
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    @MisaMisa EXACTLY.
  • Sid-Nice 3 Oct 2012 15:43:05 15,851 posts
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    I think Eurogamer should ban all cosplay attendees; cosplay is for attention seekers and for every hot cosplayer there are at least 20 ugly enough to put you off your lunch.

    NNID Sid-Nice

  • LeoliansBro 3 Oct 2012 15:44:48 44,505 posts
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    MetalDog wrote:
    @LeoliansBro I am thinking about demographics. When you're sending a message to such a large chunk of the population that 'this isn't for you' for no good reason, I don't think that's sensible.

    Unless the game is something like Leisure Suit Larry, it just doesn't make any sense to put off potential buyers with irrelevant T&A. There is a reasonable chunk of womanhood who likes to shoot things, drive things and fly things and there will probably be even more of them in the future as games gain a better reputation.

    Honestly, we can't get away from the 'teenage boy in bedroom' image for gaming fast enough imo.
    I presume you were outraged at Sex and the City's original C4 run being 'sponsored by Baileys' as well ;) I'm personally outraged that people shove vile smily sweet chocogak in my face and assume I'm that kind of limp fashion wanker just because I occasionally like to see four elderly harridans dropping their overused clungebuckets like circus tents onto every Manhatten cock they can find.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Cosplayer 3 Oct 2012 15:45:01 2 posts
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    Sid-Nice wrote:
    I think Eurogamer should ban all cosplay attendees; cosplay is for attention seekers and for every hot cosplayer there are at least 20 ugly enough to put you off your lunch.
    See? This is how it starts :( Officially feel awkward now.
  • LeoliansBro 3 Oct 2012 15:46:02 44,505 posts
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    Also MD, where do you stand on the semi-naked male model in front of every ANF shop?

    Or the female costume decisions in every japanese game?

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • GiarcYekrub 3 Oct 2012 15:46:09 3,801 posts
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    I'm being honest it was my first expo and I was disappointed at the lack of booth babes.
  • Sid-Nice 3 Oct 2012 15:47:17 15,851 posts
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    Cosplayer wrote:
    Sid-Nice wrote:
    I think Eurogamer should ban all cosplay attendees; cosplay is for attention seekers and for every hot cosplayer there are at least 20 ugly enough to put you off your lunch.
    See? This is how it starts :( Officially feel awkward now.
    Don't take any notice of me; I'm just an idiot and sock detector. :)

    NNID Sid-Nice

  • kinky_mong 3 Oct 2012 15:47:37 10,431 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    MetalDog wrote:
    @LeoliansBro I am thinking about demographics. When you're sending a message to such a large chunk of the population that 'this isn't for you' for no good reason, I don't think that's sensible.

    Unless the game is something like Leisure Suit Larry, it just doesn't make any sense to put off potential buyers with irrelevant T&A. There is a reasonable chunk of womanhood who likes to shoot things, drive things and fly things and there will probably be even more of them in the future as games gain a better reputation.

    Honestly, we can't get away from the 'teenage boy in bedroom' image for gaming fast enough imo.
    I presume you were outraged at Sex and the City's original C4 run being 'sponsored by Baileys' as well ;) I'm personally outraged that people shove vile smily sweet chocogak in my face and assume I'm that kind of limp fashion wanker just because I occasionally like to see four elderly harridans dropping their overused clungebuckets like circus tents onto every Manhatten cock they can find.
    If one good thing has come from this debacle of a thread, its this post! :D

    All the eurogamers who actually play with each other on xbl rather than just post pseudointellectual pc handwringing bollocks on the forums, love the shit out of biggy.

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