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kalel 76,426 posts
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smoothpete 29,135 posts
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Registered 9 years agoLooks approximately a million times better with the roof down
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El_MUERkO 16,124 posts
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Registered 10 years agoThe coupé is out in 2014, that's the drivers car, faster, lighter and about £10k cheaper.gif)
So with luck I'll pick up a second-hand one in 2018 -
smoothpete 29,135 posts
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Registered 9 years agoIs it basically the baby Aston Martin but watered down a bit? -
LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agoIt's a different beast pete - there's no Ford-flavoured crossover with Aston Martin any more, remember.
Good to see this is finally announced, I've been in the loop for a little while. Awesome car, light, small, and properly agile. Should be a worthy successor to the XKE.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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Deckard1 17,892 posts
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El_MUERkO 16,124 posts
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Registered 10 years agosmoothpete wrote:
Some would say that, but the designers at Jaguar are far more focused on the driving experience. Aston's tend to be noisy, straight line speed, fun cars. The F-Type is being pitted against the 911, so a good looking car that's great to drive to the track and then on the track.
Is it basically the baby Aston Martin but watered down a bit?
Tata bought Jaguar and Land Rover and have pumped money into them to build their reputations. I Jaguar's case you pay for the vehicle with zero premium for the name because they want more people to drive them and build that reputation. As the name gets the respect of the motoring public you'll see a shift towards greater luxury.
You can see it with the F-Type, they're looking to get the price of the hard-top as low as £55k but with all the bells as whistles it'll be near £100k in much the same way as Porsche price the 911, the car they're aiming to compete with.
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LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agoEl_MUERkO wrote:
Please note pete - this is almost entirely wrong.smoothpete wrote:
Some would say that, but the designers at Jaguar are far more focused on the driving experience. Aston's tend to be noisy, straight line speed, fun cars. The F-Type is being pitted against the 911, so a good looking car that's great to drive to the track and then on the track.
Is it basically the baby Aston Martin but watered down a bit?
Tata bought Jaguar and Land Rover and have pumped money into them to build their reputations. I Jaguar's case you pay for the vehicle with zero premium for the name because they want more people to drive them and build that reputation. As the name gets the respect of the motoring public you'll see a shift towards greater luxury.
You can see it with the F-Type, they're looking to get the price of the hard-top as low as £55k but with all the bells as whistles it'll be near £100k in much the same way as Porsche price the 911, the car they're aiming to compete with.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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El_MUERkO 16,124 posts
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http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/Jaguar-reveals-f-type-info-2012-04-04
http://www.0-60mag.com/news/2012/03/cars-jaguar-bigwig-really-wants-the-cx-16-to-happen/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/business/global/tata-motors-finds-success-in-jaguar-land-rover.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motor-shows/paris-motor-show/9568930/Paris-Motor-Show-2012-new-Range-Rover.html
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Jaguar-XJ-20-V6-at-the-2012-Beijing-motor-show/
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StarchildHypocrethes 22,450 posts
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TheSaint 11,581 posts
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Registered 7 years agoIt looks alright, but if I had 70K to spend on a car I don't think I'd be heading to the Jaguar garage. -
JuanKerr 35,451 posts
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Registered 6 years agoMy boss is at the Paris Motor Show today and says that it looks a lot better 'in the tin' than it does in pictures. -
Dirtbox 73,638 posts
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Registered 11 years agoTheSaint wrote:
You should be thinking about one of these.
It looks alright, but if I had 70K to spend on a car I don't think I'd be heading to the Jaguar garage.
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kalel 76,426 posts
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Registered 10 years agoIt is an ok looking car and definitely sexy with the hood down, but I think considering the heritage and the name, it really should be an absolutely jaw-dropping iconic car. Something totally groundbreaking and defining.
I'm a little disappointed. I know not everyone gets a boner for an E-type (i do) but even if it's not your thing, you have to appreciate its significance and distinctiveness. -
JuanKerr 35,451 posts
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Registered 6 years agoEl_MUERkO wrote:
That's bullshit for starters.
In Jaguar's case you pay for the vehicle with zero premium for the name
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Deckard1 17,892 posts
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Registered 4 years agoSo I'm the only one who prefers it with the top on then? -
Dirtbox 73,638 posts
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Registered 11 years agoThe Eagle Speedster has pretty much nailed the 21st century E-Type.+1 / Like / Tweet this post
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Deckard1 17,892 posts
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Registered 4 years agoActually scrap that, I didn't realise you could drop the roof on the main picture. Stunning looking car imo. -
Salaman 16,550 posts
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Registered 9 years agoIt vaguely reminds me of some other car. Can't quite put my finger on it. Something non jaguar. -
LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agoEl_MUERkO wrote:
And they'd be wrong. It's a front engined, rear wheel drive two seater convertible, and that's all it has in common.smoothpete wrote:
Some would say that,
Is it basically the baby Aston Martin but watered down a bit?
but the designers at Jaguar are far more focused on the driving experience. Aston's [sic] tend to be noisy, straight line speed, fun cars.
This is extraordinary. Astons are grand tourers, designed for comfort, they aren't drag strip muscle cars for Golf GTi hooligans. The Aston is luxurious, bespoke, comfortable. The Jag will be lightweight, balanced, agile. Both are primarily, overwhelmingly focussed on the driving experience.
The F-Type is being pitted against the 911, so a good looking car that's great to drive to the track and then on the track.
Price point, number of seats, number of roofs, speed and acceleration put this in top end Boxster (and Cayman) territory. 911 is a step up, compares to the XKR.
Tata bought Jaguar and Land Rover
Correct (hooray!).
and have pumped money into them to build their reputations.
Wrong, 100% wrong. Tata bought the brand. They bought JLR in 2010 when the newest model was the Range Rover Sport and the X-F was still six months away.
In Jaguar's case you pay for the vehicle with zero premium for the name because they want more people to drive them and build that reputation. As the name gets the respect of the motoring public you'll see a shift towards greater luxury.
This is ludicrous. Tata were shopping for trophy Western names, they also bought Tetley Tea (and were rumoured to be looking at Arsenal). They wanted a luxury brand and that's what they got. The perceived lack of luxury at JLR was down to a shoe string budget, not because they were starting low and aiming to lift their rep. Utterly ridiculous statement.
You can see it with the F-Type, they're looking to get the price of the hard-top as low as £55k but with all the bells as whistles it'll be near £100k in much the same way as Porsche price the 911, the car they're aiming to compete with.
Yes, this is a selling practice unique to the 911. No other car maker does this, therefore it must be a direct rival to the 911. What insight.
Edit: spurious 'K'.
Edited by LeoliansBro at 16:04:18 27-09-2012LB, you really are a massive geek.
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LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agoThanks for the regurgitated press releases though, I'll have a look at them when I've forgotten everything I already know about this company.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agoDirtbox wrote:
Ten times the price though, sadly.
The Eagle Speedster has pretty much nailed the 21st century E-Type.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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JuanKerr 35,451 posts
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Registered 6 years agoThe F-Type will start £58,500, which is more expensive than the Boxster and Cayman, and cheaper than the 911.
The V8 S version is in 911 territory though - £79,950.
Chances are, the top of the range version might snare a few potential 911 buyers, but I don't see the 911 as its main rival. -
Dirtbox 73,638 posts
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Registered 11 years agoYeah, it's a ludicrous price, but I don't think it can really be bettered.
@LeoliansBro
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LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agoGorgeous car. Just needed that bit of American brashness around the seat backwells and the bigger wheels.
I'd love an E-Type, but the closest I'm likely to get is one of these.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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Deckard1 17,892 posts
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Registered 4 years agoLeoliansBro wrote:
I'll dance on your grave
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LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agoJuanKerr wrote:
Yeah, fair enough, it does rather fall between the two stools. Didn't realise the Cayman could be had for less than £40k.
The F-Type will start £58,500, which is more expensive than the Boxster and Cayman, and cheaper than the 911.
The V8 S version is in 911 territory though - £79,950.
Chances are, the top of the range version might snare a few potential 911 buyers, but I don't see the 911 as its main rival.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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Dirtbox 73,638 posts
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Registered 11 years agoI'd still take a Lambo Miura over one, but the E-Type is the classic to end all.+1 / Like / Tweet this post
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LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agoDeckard1 wrote:
And rev your engine loudly outside the cemetery, before turning all your fog lights on and picking up a McDonalds drive through on the way home.LeoliansBro wrote:
I'll dance on your grave
...Golf GTi hooligans....LB, you really are a massive geek.
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To be fair, Audi is now the brand favoured by 99% of total cunts.
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