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  • The-Bodybuilder 14 Sep 2012 10:06:32 11,492 posts
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    A crazy thing to say, but some of you need to see it from nokia's perspective.

    If you create a few phones, but only 1 or 2 network providers actually went all out to sell your phone(s) and the others didn't give a toss, saw you as not worth the effort and pushed your competitors over you, as a company you do want to reward the providers who gave you most of the sales and supported you over the others.

    But still.
  • mcmonkeyplc 14 Sep 2012 11:15:34 35,792 posts
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    Yeah EE probably agreed to lick Nokia's balls for the duration of the exclusivity period.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Tonka 14 Sep 2012 12:16:07 18,136 posts
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    I read an article abut how the networks got real mad over Nokias switch toWP. Or rather how they announced it right before the release of the first and last phone using that MeGoo thing.

    Nokia basically shipped a bunch of obsolete phones and created a lot of enemies.

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • oceanmotion 14 Sep 2012 12:30:51 13,118 posts
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    Wasn't Meego on one phone, the N9. Doubt it was annoying, it was new itself too. Nokia was already third even fourth by then anyway.

    Carriers just have a much easier time selling cheap to top of line Android phones and iPhones that sell regardless over pushing a new Windows Phone that has little interest.

    Seems that is changing now with greater WP8 interest but I doubt EE would push the 920 more than a iPhone unless Nokia have made a smart deal.
  • The-Bodybuilder 14 Sep 2012 17:31:54 11,492 posts
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    Yeah the N9 wasn't even out then.
    most carriers nailed their flags on planet android, as they just wanted 1 main rival to use to fight against apple and make more money due to the greater margins, and probably got pissed at Nokia cuz an android/Nokia combo would've done them well.

    EE would happily push anything over the iPhone, because for so long as apple have dominion, they would get less profits and have no stand to negotiate.

    I used to work part time at o2 during the exclusivity days, and one major reason why o2 didn't fight to negotiate was because they heavily subsidise the contracts, and most carriers don't get that much profit per sale of the iPhones, whereas they do with android.

    in the long term, it is to their benefit to have stronger competitors and alternatives over the iPhone. Plus many are pissed because the only main alternative in recent years has been the galaxy phones, of which apple are trying to ruin.
  • Peew971 15 Sep 2012 20:35:37 4,548 posts
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    Windows Phone 8 has reached RTM status.
  • Sharzam 19 Sep 2012 08:10:06 1,329 posts
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    I currently have a nexus s running jelly bean and it is scary clever. The thing is the out dated hardware is struggling with all the new toys.

    I am tempted to switch to windows phone but I really know nothing about it. I assume due to closed nature you can't load anything you want onto it and how is APN tethering ? Also how is it with Google services like the Calender ? Lastly does anyone regret the switch due to lack of apps or do you find all the ones you need are on the marketplace ?after all do you really need 110+ apps that do the same thing.

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  • Peew971 19 Sep 2012 08:14:37 4,548 posts
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    HTC is set to unveil at least one Windows Phone device today at 4.00 pm
  • THFourteen 19 Sep 2012 08:17:08 29,028 posts
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    Peew971 wrote:
    Windows Phone 8 has reached RTM status.
    Read the Manual?
  • Peew971 19 Sep 2012 08:29:08 4,548 posts
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    @Sharzam I'm coming from Windows Mobile, not Android but that was a pretty open OS too (I still miss my HD2 sometimes, what a great Swiss knife).
    I'm not too deep into Google services but I do have a Google account synced to my phone in addition to my Microsoft one (note that you don't need a Microsoft account to use WP) and everything works great, calendar included. Now if you have some sort of special relationship with Gmail, there's no Gmail app for you, just the native email app.
    For the apps I'd say it probably varies from case to case and it depends on which ones you use regularly and which ones you can't live without. There's no official Dropbox app for instance but there is a Box one and a Skydrive one.
    You should make a list of the ones you definitely need but I would say you're likely to find most of them nowadays on WP. Keep in mind that WP8 will run on Windows 8 kernel, which means in a few months the marketplace shouldn't be an issue anymore (in theory anyway).

    Edit: Tethering just fine with my Lumia 900 on 3 PAYG.

    Edited by Peew971 at 09:36:47 19-09-2012
  • Peew971 19 Sep 2012 08:29:26 4,548 posts
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    @THFourteen Good one :)
  • Peew971 19 Sep 2012 08:37:57 4,548 posts
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    Photos of one of the HTC phones have leaked.

    Edited by Peew971 at 08:38:22 19-09-2012
  • sport 19 Sep 2012 10:19:54 10,903 posts
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    Wired recently ran a poll - Windows won. The iphone is dead.

    https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Kv0c4axUMHg/UFi-yM7sS5I/AAAAAAAAAHk/M0C-SAx6amU/s695/wiredpoll.jpg
  • mcmonkeyplc 19 Sep 2012 10:26:18 35,792 posts
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    What the lolz?

    It does look like a better phone though so it's not that surprising.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Razz 19 Sep 2012 10:31:40 57,905 posts
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    A lot of the old school Android crowd are migrating to WP8,
    Also there are quite a few Apple fans not impressed with the new iphone and Apples legal battles, but won't buy into Android. So Wp8 is the logical choice.

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  • Peew971 19 Sep 2012 10:32:08 4,548 posts
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    The Verge ran the same poll yesterday with the same result.
  • Razz 19 Sep 2012 10:33:01 57,905 posts
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    Peew971 wrote:
    Photos of one of the HTC phones have leaked.
    Now there's a nice alternative to the Lumia, looks really nice. I realy hope it turns out to be a decent handset.

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  • sport 19 Sep 2012 10:33:56 10,903 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    What the lolz?

    It does look like a better phone though so it's not that surprising.
    They did revise the poll afterwards - http://i.imgur.com/EZJ78.jpg
  • mcmonkeyplc 19 Sep 2012 10:36:38 35,792 posts
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    That's a lot of smart people! :)

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • mcmonkeyplc 19 Sep 2012 10:37:52 35,792 posts
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    Razz wrote:
    Peew971 wrote:
    Photos of one of the HTC phones have leaked.
    Now there's a nice alternative to the Lumia, looks really nice. I realy hope it turns out to be a decent handset.
    I thought it WAS the lumia at first glance!

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Ginger 19 Sep 2012 10:51:54 6,748 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    Razz wrote:
    Peew971 wrote:
    Photos of one of the HTC phones have leaked.
    Now there's a nice alternative to the Lumia, looks really nice. I realy hope it turns out to be a decent handset.
    I thought it WAS the lumia at first glance!
    Quick, to the lawyermobile

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  • sport 19 Sep 2012 11:16:41 10,903 posts
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    The Guardian just reviewed the iphone 5 and gave it 5/5 - looks like the iphone is the winner!!! WP8 doesn't stand a chance.
  • Peew971 19 Sep 2012 12:02:19 4,548 posts
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    On somewhat related news, today's WPXBL release is Contre Jour which you know is great if you've ever had an iOS/android device.
  • Peew971 19 Sep 2012 16:22:12 4,548 posts
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    HTC looking very good.
  • Peew971 19 Sep 2012 16:28:40 4,548 posts
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    Edited by Peew971 at 16:29:28 19-09-2012
  • sport 19 Sep 2012 16:33:57 10,903 posts
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    WP8 wins \o/
  • mcmonkeyplc 19 Sep 2012 16:35:03 35,792 posts
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    That does look pretty neat! Very Lumiaesque though. I wonder if the lawyer mobile will roll out. :p

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • octo 19 Sep 2012 16:35:15 970 posts
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    @Tonka Including me. I will never buy another phone from that company. Sold me an N9 and then abandoned the platform completely. The worst bit was not being able to install software updates to the device because I happen to be a Mac user (couldn't do it over a wifi connection, HAD to be USB to PC) that did not choose iPhone. I'm sure the market research put me in the 1% of people in that situation and someone decided that I didn't matter. Consequently Nokia will never see my money again. Ever.
  • CharlieStCloud 19 Sep 2012 16:35:40 2,297 posts
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    Those new Windows Phone 8 by HTC look scarily similar to the Lumia phones ...

    ... not that it is a bad thing!
  • Ginger 19 Sep 2012 16:35:43 6,748 posts
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    honestly, I'm following that verge stream and all this crap about "magically thin" and so on really just gets on my tits.

    Also, do all phone designers have to look a bit like Johnny Ive now to have any credibility?

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