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  • CharlieStCloud 9 Sep 2012 20:18:02 5,202 posts
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    I really, really wish the Lumia 820 took after the original Lumia 800 and retained the 3.7 inch screen ... perfect size for a 480 x 800 resolution.

    Might flog my Xperia phone for a Lumia 920 ...

    ... hurry up with the date and price please Nokia!
  • robthehermit 10 Sep 2012 12:25:02 4,036 posts
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    Word is that the 920 might be a t-mob/orange exclusive :(

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  • Peew971 10 Sep 2012 13:02:37 4,710 posts
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    I think this is misinterpreted. The way I see it the 920 will be available on all networks but the LTE version will be exclusive to Everything Everywhere.
    The same will probably be true of the iPhone 5.
  • oceanmotion 10 Sep 2012 13:20:19 15,815 posts
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    Tmobile and Orange are just first with LTE. I imagine people are just jumping to conclusions. Don't think Nokia would like to be exclusive.
  • Peew971 10 Sep 2012 20:09:03 4,710 posts
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    Looks like Instagram is coming afterall. Eventually.
  • altitude2k 10 Sep 2012 20:17:52 4,096 posts
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    My Lumia 800 contract is up in December. Really sold on the WP ecosystem, so need to decide between the 920 and the ATIV S. The 920 looks prettier, great camera and great Nokia apps, but the ATIV S has the battery, micro SD and is SO DAMN THIN!
  • Peew971 10 Sep 2012 20:32:43 4,710 posts
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    HTC is expected to unveil between one and three Windows Phones on September 19th so that should hopefully make your choice that harder to make.
    I do have issues with Nokia getting 3rd party apps exclusives though, I feel somewhat bullied into buying a Lumia even if Samsung and HTC come up with better hardware.
  • altitude2k 10 Sep 2012 20:44:54 4,096 posts
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    To be fair, they are Nokia-developed apps, not Nokia-exclusive 3rd party apps, so they are more than entitled to use them to sell their hardware. Although I understand that the big hitter, Nokia Drive, will be available to other vendors. So I assume it's not a paid app on other phones - just costs Samsung cash to have it.
  • Ror1984 10 Sep 2012 21:06:54 3,064 posts
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    What happened to those Nokia-exclusive EA games? Did they ever show up? Dead Space was among them, so I was a bit annoyed, but I'm sure I remember a later announcement that they'd only be exclusive for 30 days or so. Perhaps the same will be true of any other apps Nokia acquir exclusive rights to.

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  • Peew971 10 Sep 2012 21:14:35 4,710 posts
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    No, I mean 3rd party apps like CNN, ESPN, Mirror's Edge, Words with Friends, Groupon, YouSendIt, Bloomberg, PGA Tour, Angry Birds Space, Paypal, WhatsApp, etc. All these apps are supposed to come with either a period of exclusivity (3 to 12 months) or features exclusives to Lumias.
    Last week ESPN released their Fantasy Football app exclusive to Lumia phones for 6 months. Well in 6 months time I'm pretty sure the regular NFL season will be over. That would kill me if they were to do that here with a Fantasy Premier League app.
    I don't mind them having awesome 1st party apps, it's an issue when we talk about mainstream apps and almost forces you to not look at Samsung and HTC devices. And I'm not being bitter, I have a 900.
  • Peew971 10 Sep 2012 21:19:54 4,710 posts
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    Ror1984 wrote:
    What happened to those Nokia-exclusive EA games? Did they ever show up? Dead Space was among them, so I was a bit annoyed, but I'm sure I remember a later announcement that they'd only be exclusive for 30 days or so. Perhaps the same will be true of any other apps Nokia acquir exclusive rights to.
    They only released Mirror's Edge on July 10th, you do the maths.

    Edited by Peew971 at 21:20:42 10-09-2012
  • altitude2k 10 Sep 2012 21:42:30 4,096 posts
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    Peew971 wrote:
    No, I mean 3rd party apps like CNN, ESPN, Mirror's Edge, Words with Friends, Groupon, YouSendIt, Bloomberg, PGA Tour, Angry Birds Space, Paypal, WhatsApp, etc. All these apps are supposed to come with either a period of exclusivity (3 to 12 months) or features exclusives to Lumias.
    Last week ESPN released their Fantasy Football app exclusive to Lumia phones for 6 months. Well in 6 months time I'm pretty sure the regular NFL season will be over. That would kill me if they were to do that here with a Fantasy Premier League app.
    I don't mind them having awesome 1st party apps, it's an issue when we talk about mainstream apps and almost forces you to not look at Samsung and HTC devices. And I'm not being bitter, I have a 900.
    Ah yes, I see. To be honest, I'm none too bothered about timed exclusives, but outright lockouts would upset me.
  • Ror1984 10 Sep 2012 21:45:04 3,064 posts
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    @Peew971 Ah ok, I wasn't aware any of them had come out yet - I have an Omnia 7. I was obviously mistaken on the period of exclusivity, and I agree it's a bit heavy-handed. It's probably not going to be particularly helpful to the ecosystem as a whole to withhold big-name apps.

    On the other hand, you could argue that at least Nokia are trying to bring these apps to WP - the other manufacturers don't appear to be doing anything for the platform beyond dumping some new handsets on the market and then forgetting they exist.

    I'll be getting a 920 anyway. I've been sitting on an upgrade for six months, waiting for Nokia's WP8 flagship.

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  • Peew971 10 Sep 2012 22:17:19 4,710 posts
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    Ror1984 wrote:
    On the other hand, you could argue that at least Nokia are trying to bring these apps to WP - the other manufacturers don't appear to be doing anything for the platform beyond dumping some new handsets on the market and then forgetting they exist.
    My view on that is that it should be up to Microsoft to get these apps on the platform, not the manufacturers. Otherwise you take the risk of having CNN only on Nokia, BBC iPlayer only on HTC, Sky Go only on Samsung, Instagram only on LG and nonsense like that which at the end can only hurt the ecosystem as a whole.
    Or at least if Nokia (or another manufacturer) wants compensation for bringing an A-list app to Windows Phone they could offer it for free to their customers and charge a small fee for everyone else.
  • oceanmotion 10 Sep 2012 22:31:32 15,815 posts
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    From what I've noticed these apps like ESPN etc. are labelled Nokia so is it right to think Nokia are ones actually making them ?

    Nokia is getting exclusives but maybe the companies wouldn't have bothered making the apps in the first place for Windows Phone, at least not now. By the time the exclusivity ends, the marketplace will be big enough for companies to do it themselves.
  • Ror1984 10 Sep 2012 23:18:24 3,064 posts
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    @Peew971 Well, it's certainly a possibility, but based on current form I think it's unlikely, as Nokia are the only ones doing this at the moment. The 'Samsung Zone' area on the Marketplace on my phone is full of crap. In fact, 'full' would be a compliment.

    I do agree that the onus should be on Microsoft to bring apps to the platform, but again, if they're not, at least someone is, and we have an option to get them. Nokia wants WP to succeed, but of course they want their phones to be the logical choice for anyone looking to buy a Windows Phone.

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  • Dirtbox 11 Sep 2012 00:16:06 77,687 posts
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    Seems Nokia has Instagram for whoever cared.

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  • CharlieStCloud 11 Sep 2012 08:02:22 5,202 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Seems Nokia has Instagram for whoever cared.
    Aw, that'll be me and the 100,000,000+ other people who downloaded Instagram on Android and iOS!

    ... : )
  • mcmonkeyplc 11 Sep 2012 08:06:04 39,438 posts
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    What's so good about Instagram anyway?

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Peew971 11 Sep 2012 08:37:35 4,710 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    What's so good about Instagram anyway?
    I think it's more about the sharing aspect than the shitty filters. Anyway, it's a box you need to tick nowadays if you want people to care about your OS so it's good news for Windows Phone.
  • sport 11 Sep 2012 08:39:56 12,690 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    What's so good about Instagram anyway?
    You can take a photo on your mobile, then add a caption like "LOLLLLL" and share it with your friends.

    IT'S THAT GOOD!
  • Peew971 11 Sep 2012 09:27:49 4,710 posts
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    Off topic, does anyone know if Microsoft still charges 26 for a 3 months Zune Pass or has it gone down in price? I might have a couple to put on eBay.
  • Peew971 11 Sep 2012 10:17:56 4,710 posts
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    Both the Lumia 820 and 920 will be exclusive to EE. There's no separate non LTE version for the other networks.
    Fuck you Nokia.
  • Psychotext 11 Sep 2012 10:27:37 53,939 posts
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    Wow, that's fucking ridiculous. So they've basically just killed the phone in the UK... and for what?

    Looks like an iPhone 5 for me then.

    Edit - Seems it's still like the original news from a few days ago where it seems it might just be "LTE" versions of the phones. Verge is supposedly trying to clarify.

    Edited by Psychotext at 10:32:33 11-09-2012
  • Peew971 11 Sep 2012 10:37:31 4,710 posts
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    I asked Tom Warren and it tweeted me this:
    looks like it's exclusive, there's no separate LTE version
  • Psychotext 11 Sep 2012 10:52:21 53,939 posts
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    Fucking cuntbadgers.
  • Peew971 11 Sep 2012 10:52:56 4,710 posts
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    From The Verge:

    Update: We're waiting to hear back from EE over its use of "exclusive" for the Lumia 920.

    Update 2: We've spoken to EE who have confirmed the Lumia 920 will "have a period of exclusivity at launch." A Nokia representative tells us that the Lumia 920 "may" be ranged on other carriers too, but they have not got anything to announce yet.
  • mcmonkeyplc 11 Sep 2012 10:55:25 39,438 posts
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    That's OK. As long as their on O2 by March :)

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • sport 11 Sep 2012 10:57:43 12,690 posts
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    WAIT TILL MARCH!!!!
  • mcmonkeyplc 11 Sep 2012 11:06:53 39,438 posts
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    Beware the Ides of March, Sport.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

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