Dear Microsoft, please get rid of your silly points 'currency', so I can buy your stuff..

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  • anon_ 29 Aug 2012 13:01:43 211 posts
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    I would quite like to play I Am Alive and Mass Effect 3: Leviathan - to name a couple - but I refuse to play with their silly monopoly money.

    I don't care that you can find extra value with the current system - maybe I'm just old-fashioned in this regard, but I like to just be presented with a price, in real money, that then shows up on my bank statement as was advertised.

    Edited by anon_ at 13:02:37 29-08-2012
  • Deckard1 29 Aug 2012 13:03:24 27,732 posts
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    You realise we're not Microsoft though yes?

    Hush you ponce

  • anon_ 29 Aug 2012 13:07:37 211 posts
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    Um, yeah, well I didn't think I was actually paging Steve Ballmer..
  • robthehermit 29 Aug 2012 13:07:38 4,037 posts
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    Terrible idea. Much cheaper to get points. Although I did hear somewhere that MS are planning to move away from the points system.

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  • Psychotext 29 Aug 2012 13:08:17 53,963 posts
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    I thought you could do this now, or is it just for the full retail games they sell on XBL?

    As for not buying things just because you can't get your head around the points... well, that's just stupid.
  • psychokitten Moderator 29 Aug 2012 13:09:50 7,794 posts
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    If I have to pay them a direct price, that is the price, no budging.

    If I can buy a card, I can get it cheaper than they sell it for.
  • anon_ 29 Aug 2012 13:12:40 211 posts
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    Tbh, it wouldn't even be quite so bad if they at least sold points in even bundles. That way you could buy just what you need. Instead, you end up with 'leftovers', manipulatively designed to coax you into further purchases. So in effect, they make you pay for more than you want/need.

    Edited by anon_ at 13:13:45 29-08-2012
  • Trafford 29 Aug 2012 13:13:07 5,739 posts
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    In life you need to adapt.
    Or make stupid threads.
  • RyanDS 29 Aug 2012 13:14:13 9,257 posts
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    psychokitten wrote:
    If I have to pay them a direct price, that is the price, no budging.

    If I can buy a card, I can get it cheaper than they sell it for.
    PSN uses real money and cards.
  • oceanmotion 29 Aug 2012 13:18:44 15,820 posts
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    Buy points from 3rd party, google ms points converter, see cash value or in some cases press x or something when buying content on Xbox Live to see real money price.

    I think spacebucks will be on the way out eventually but you have silly excuses for not using them right now.

    If you can avoid it, never buy points direct from MS.
  • anon_ 29 Aug 2012 13:19:21 211 posts
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    Well you guys can scoff, but the reality for Microsoft as they are harmonizing their software and services across devices is they're going to have to scrap the system sooner rather than later anyway, as the mass market Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 consumer ain't going to pay with 'Microsoft Points' for squat.
  • anon_ 29 Aug 2012 13:23:51 211 posts
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    oceanmotion wrote:
    Buy points from 3rd party, google ms points converter, see cash value or in some cases press x or something when buying content on Xbox Live to see real money price.

    I think spacebucks will be on the way out eventually but you have silly excuses for not using them right now.

    If you can avoid it, never buy points direct from MS.
    I understand all that, and it's still an overly laborious way to go about things in my eyes, but it doesn't resolve the principled objection I have with having to purchase 1000 points in order to acquire an 800 point DLC, when if given the option, I would pay less for just the 800!

    Edited by anon_ at 13:26:21 29-08-2012
  • monkehhh 29 Aug 2012 13:24:49 3,296 posts
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    If you're principled enough to make it stop you getting the content, fair enough. I get the points from folks here or third-party sites like Electronic First cos I want the things they're selling.
  • oceanmotion 29 Aug 2012 13:25:22 15,820 posts
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    Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 already use real money.

    Xbox is the only one left

    It will probably happen but not using points right now is still silly.
  • spindle9988 29 Aug 2012 13:27:21 3,529 posts
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    I normally use gamestations website as you can get 1200 points for 9.99
  • X201 29 Aug 2012 13:27:39 15,271 posts
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    The points stuff doesn't fit well with the image they want to portray of the console being for adults.

    The points business sits much better in Nintendo's walled garden network rather than Xbox.
  • L_Franko Moderator 29 Aug 2012 13:29:13 9,694 posts
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    Glad I'm not bothered by the points system otherwise I'd have missed out on some fantastic gaming moments. Just think of all the games you'll be missing out on. I mean Trials HD is one of the best games I've ever played!
  • oceanmotion 29 Aug 2012 13:32:06 15,820 posts
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    anon_ wrote:
    oceanmotion wrote:
    Buy points from 3rd party, google ms points converter, see cash value or in some cases press x or something when buying content on Xbox Live to see real money price.

    I think spacebucks will be on the way out eventually but you have silly excuses for not using them right now.

    If you can avoid it, never buy points direct from MS.
    I understand all that, and it's still an overly laborious way to go about things in my eyes, but it doesn't resolve the principled objection I have with having to purchase 1000 points in order to acquire an 800 point DLC, when if given the option, I would pay a little less for just the 800!
    Fair enough, that has always been annoying but when you can get 2100 points cheaper from a 3rd party that can be easily overlooked for now. We know the price tiers and point bundles are diliberate to make you spend more but you can work the system, get the best value, buy only the stuff you really want and not spend that remaining 200 points on something you don't really care for.
  • Load_2.0 29 Aug 2012 13:38:40 19,149 posts
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    I hate it. Buy points, buy cards, convert points. Just seems like a pain in the bum even if you save a few quid.

    I don't walk into a restaraunt pay for a 12 quid lunch with a 20 and have them keep the change indefinitely in case I come back next month for soup.
  • Load_2.0 29 Aug 2012 13:39:54 19,149 posts
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    oceanmotion wrote:
    spend that remaining 200 points on something you don't really care for.
    Exactly.
  • X201 29 Aug 2012 13:40:19 15,271 posts
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    Load_2.0 wrote:
    I hate it. Buy points, buy cards, convert points. Just seems like a pain in the bum even if you save a few quid.

    I don't walk into a restaraunt pay for a 12 quid lunch with a 20 and have them keep the change indefinitely in case I come back next month for soup.
    :)
  • Feanor 29 Aug 2012 13:42:50 14,145 posts
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    MS points are awesome. I get them free by the bucket load thru Bing Rewards.
  • anon_ 29 Aug 2012 13:43:18 211 posts
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    I know at the end of the day my wallet vote counts for very little, but I really dislike the cunniving way Microsoft went with this system in order to de-value the feel of buying their digital goods and encourage people to spend without thought, and I don't want to legitimize it by paying into it.
  • Syrette 29 Aug 2012 13:47:59 43,325 posts
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    I love it when people feel the need to tell the world about how they're boycotting major corporations. I doubt MS really care to be honest, and you're the one missing out on games/DLC because you're perhaps taking things a little too seriously over a couple of quid.

  • MrTomFTW Moderator 29 Aug 2012 14:06:31 37,849 posts
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    It's a fair point, and I'll be surprised if MS points survive the transition to the next gen.

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  • Whizzo 29 Aug 2012 14:11:11 43,091 posts
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    4200 points from Microsoft themselves for 24.49 is enough reason for me wanting them to stay if it's all the same to the thread starter.

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  • RyanDS 29 Aug 2012 14:16:58 9,257 posts
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    Load_2.0 wrote:
    I hate it. Buy points, buy cards, convert points. Just seems like a pain in the bum even if you save a few quid.

    I don't walk into a restaraunt pay for a 12 quid lunch with a 20 and have them keep the change indefinitely in case I come back next month for soup.
    You forgot that they only take Euros as well so you have to either use their shitty exchange rate or walk to the travel agent down the street to change up your cash.
  • RyanDS 29 Aug 2012 14:19:30 9,257 posts
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    Syrette wrote:
    I love it when people feel the need to tell the world about how they're boycotting major corporations. I doubt MS really care to be honest, and you're the one missing out on games/DLC because you're perhaps taking things a little too seriously over a couple of quid.
    Actually I'd say Microsoft do care hugely. I'm sure they spend shitloads on research running "money gained by wasted points" versus "customers lost due to using points" scenarios.

    Obviously they make enough money by it to offset the few people who drop them because of it (eg me)
  • Deckard1 29 Aug 2012 14:22:19 27,732 posts
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    I'm so glad I don't care about stuff like this.

    Hush you ponce

  • Deleted user 29 August 2012 14:23:23
    anon_ wrote:
    Um, yeah, well I didn't think I was actually paging Steve Ballmer..
    You thought this place was a pager? Is it 1996?
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