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  • varsas 18 Oct 2013 23:31:19 2,401 posts
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    Whizzo wrote:
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    @Whizzo The point of using Burma was an indication of the age of the person monitoring, all of the current media stories talk about Myanmar and then may mention "formerly known as Burma"
    Not in the UK, it's always the other way around, if the M name gets mentioned at all.
    I'll need to watch it again but I thought the Burma reference was also an indicator for the British agent?
  • varsas 18 Oct 2013 23:34:32 2,401 posts
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    YenRug wrote:
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    Oh, and yet another, "What's happened to Coulson?" moment. They're going to have to reveal this sooner rather than later; it's blatantly obvious to the other characters that something is going, if they just sit on it it will be stupidity of the highest order.
    If they had sorted it by now you'd be complaining that they didn't keep the storyline going and rushed it.
    You're misunderstanding me, I don't want them to rush it, it's that it's been brought up in pretty much every episode in some way and, when you see how it's handled in this latest ep, it's becoming very obvious that they're pushing to have the characters in the show actively investigate what's happened. These people are meant to be SHIELD's top investigative team, if they fail to pick up on something as blatant as this then the writers are treating the characters as idiots.
    If the characters don't know Coulson then what is there to pick up on? So far the characters that are noticing knew him.
  • YenRug 19 Oct 2013 00:10:51 2,024 posts
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    @varsas If you've seen the last scene with Akela, when she's being escorted off the bus, you cannot deny how blatantly it's being shoved in their faces. As I've said, these are people who should be supremely suspicious and pick up on slight clues, that was in no way a "slight" clue.
  • Shikasama 19 Oct 2013 00:27:45 6,634 posts
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    YenRug wrote:
    @varsas If you've seen the last scene with Akela, when she's being escorted off the bus, you cannot deny how blatantly it's being shoved in their faces. As I've said, these are people who should be supremely suspicious and pick up on slight clues, that was in no way a "slight" clue.
    But that seen is literally the first time anyone (and you're talking about one person) has had reason to question anything beyond the official line.

    The only other thing they could possibly pick up on (and again, only May) is that he couldn't strip his weapon properly. Even then, he's a suited operation director, not a field agent anymore.

    It's idiotic to run at it with all of your knowledge from the films and from things that happen away from the other characters (who are total strangers to him) and say it is blatantly obvious that something is up.
  • Mr-Brett 19 Oct 2013 00:34:34 12,723 posts
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    Didn't one or two of the characters refer to Fiji (I think) in a kind of sarcastic way. I was definitely getting the vibe of it being a bullshit story they told and possibly implanted memories/hypnotised/whatever to Coulson.

    Portable view - Never forget.

  • Scimarad 19 Oct 2013 09:12:12 8,530 posts
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    @YenRug

    A clue to what? If someone infers that that someone else is acting a bit different to how they remember your first thought isn't "OMG CONSPIRACY!!!"

    You might think it's worth bringing up in conversation at some point but you are just as likely to forget about it the minute something else comes up.
  • TarickStonefire 19 Oct 2013 09:20:13 2,905 posts
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    I think some people are really overthinking this.

    Any Netflix library in the world for a couple of quid a month? Gimme!

  • Grax 19 Oct 2013 09:24:09 1,820 posts
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    He is a clone implanted with coulsons memories but he doesn't have the muscle memory, hence knowing how to strip a gun but not being able to do it (they made it obvious by talking about muscle memory the entire episode
  • TarickStonefire 19 Oct 2013 09:26:26 2,905 posts
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    Thing is that's dumb. If he has the informational knowledge of how to strip a gun, he'd be able to strip a gun.

    If he didn't have the knowledge, but he did have the muscle memory, that would make more sense.

    They don't really think things through on this show, but that's fine because it's mostly stupid bobbins anyway. Good for a laugh but not much else.

    Any Netflix library in the world for a couple of quid a month? Gimme!

  • Mola_Ram 19 Oct 2013 13:55:29 6,996 posts
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    I think the hacker character irritates me more than anyone on the show, the wacky scientists included.

    But the last couple of episodes were fun. So I'll keep watching for now!
  • YenRug 19 Oct 2013 14:45:10 2,024 posts
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    @Scimarad I'm talking about a TV show whereas you're comparing it to real life. The whole point I am making is that they are making it blatantly obvious that there is something wrong and doing so at a rate which implies it's going to come up sooner rather than later; if this was meant to be a long-term mystery you'd probably get some hint every 3 or 4 episodes, a little nudge to say "don't forget he died...", but there's been something in every single episode and they've gone from hints that educated viewers will get to shoving it in a character's face, more or less, "HE'S NOT THE SAME!"

    The show had an initial 13 ep order and has now had its "back 9" (I think, not absolutely sure on the numbers) picked up, the way it's progressing I'm certain that the intent was to resolve Coulson's situation by the end of the first 13 eps; whether that will be moderated, by the extra eps now commissioned, I don't know.
  • Deleted user 22 October 2013 17:38:00
    Have to agree, the last couple of epsidoes have got better. Fridays episode had a good balance, reminded me a little bit of fringe. Going to stick with it now. Everything is a lot less forced than what it was, and skye robot gag at the CO was quite good.
  • Latin 22 Oct 2013 17:47:13 3,601 posts
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    Skye is fit hence I continue to watch
  • Mola_Ram 23 Oct 2013 00:15:25 6,996 posts
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    Her being amazingly good looking is part of the problem I have with her character. It's too much. I just cannot believe that someone who spent all day in her van being a MASTER HACKER can have a body that only gym freaks could possibly hope to maintain.

    Anyway, it's still quite a lot of fun, so I'll stick around.

    Edited by Mola_Ram at 05:17:34 23-10-2013
  • GuiltySpark 23 Oct 2013 04:23:33 6,324 posts
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    Just realised that Agent Coulson is the cuddler rapist from The Shield. It was a nice moment.

    Get bent.

  • TheMightyRose 23 Oct 2013 12:08:20 174 posts
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    I am still waiting for the episode where Coulson and his crack team scour the world in the search for a pair of super elasticated pants for the Hulk. Maybe the writers are saving that gem for when they run out of ideas. In which case it should feature very soon!

    The episodes have picked up slightly but on current form the show does not justify 20+ episodes, although that's probably true of most tv shows to be fair. 13 Episodes a season would be better to cut down on the filler and have more killer.

    I would still kill off some characters in this. It needs something to spark it into life as so far everything just seems so bland and by the numbers. I have eaten pot noodles with more personality than Agent Ward. Gunn in episode 1,the maltese millionaire and the woman with the manipulated eyeball all had more about them in their respective appearances than Ward has shown in four episodes of the show so far. With Agent Coulson, May and Skye does the show really need the character of Ward? Also why not have one of the techs end up leaving to work with an evil genius or something.
  • Grax 23 Oct 2013 12:20:43 1,820 posts
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    TheMightyRose wrote:
    I am still waiting for the episode where Coulson and his crack team scour the world in the search for a pair of super elasticated pants for the Hulk. Maybe the writers are saving that gem for when they run out of ideas. In which case it should feature very soon!

    The episodes have picked up slightly but on current form the show does not justify 20+ episodes, although that's probably true of most tv shows to be fair. 13 Episodes a season would be better to cut down on the filler and have more killer.

    I would still kill off some characters in this. It needs something to spark it into life as so far everything just seems so bland and by the numbers. I have eaten pot noodles with more personality than Agent Ward. Gunn in episode 1,the maltese millionaire and the woman with the manipulated eyeball all had more about them in their respective appearances than Ward has shown in four episodes of the show so far. With Agent Coulson, May and Skye does the show really need the character of Ward? Also why not have one of the techs end up leaving to work with an evil genius or something.
    he didn't say the mighty rose says, don't be fooled people its a trap
  • TheMightyRose 23 Oct 2013 12:27:20 174 posts
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    There seems to be some kind of magic barrier that prevents me from speaking in my normal style in this thread. It is also in place in a few other threads as well on EG.

    How bizarreski on me bare arski.
  • crsmithy 23 Oct 2013 13:35:16 22 posts
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    Have been generally enjoying this so far, it's definitely picking up a bit in the last two episodes.

    The science babble does get a little irritating though, it almost feels very TNG esque in the way they blurt out SCIENCE to explain things.

    Possible future arc for gravity scientist and the whole episode of eyeball scanner lady are the high points so far.
  • Mola_Ram 23 Oct 2013 14:56:06 6,996 posts
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    crsmithy wrote:
    The science babble does get a little irritating though, it almost feels very TNG esque in the way they blurt out SCIENCE to explain things.
    My favorite was in the first episode where Ward said "speak English" to the science guy who was speaking in science language. It's like a warm blanket of a cliche - sort of comforting to know that it will always be there.
  • varsas 25 Oct 2013 21:20:31 2,401 posts
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    I'm enjoying how it's coming together with extremis and centipede appearing again.
  • Grax 25 Oct 2013 21:23:56 1,820 posts
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    @crsmithy the gravity scientist is actually a marvel villan called gravaton
  • Mr-Brett 25 Oct 2013 21:42:27 12,723 posts
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    crsmithy wrote:
    Have been generally enjoying this so far, it's definitely picking up a bit in the last two episodes.

    The science babble does get a little irritating though, it almost feels very TNG esque in the way they blurt out SCIENCE to explain things.

    Possible future arc for gravity scientist and the whole episode of eyeball scanner lady are the high points so far.
    The faux science talk is pretty dumb, mainly because it's so obviously nonsense. I'd prefer that they either try and come up with something vaguely plausible or just avoid it, instead of "hacking the dhcp subnet mainframe flux capacitor" it could just be "accessing their system" or something suitably vague.

    I find most annoying because it's lazy characterisation. Spewing techno-babble doesn't make you seem smart just ask vizzini ;)

    Portable view - Never forget.

  • BillMurray 26 Oct 2013 19:52:28 7,622 posts
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    This is a bit pants.
  • nickthegun 26 Oct 2013 19:57:15 58,892 posts
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    It was a big step back this week. I know 'a fish out of water for the audience to identify with' is screenwriting 101, but hanging this entire series on Hacky McTraceroute is just a terrible decision.

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  • IMO 26 Oct 2013 20:09:15 5,583 posts
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    It's like the writers know they can reel people back in by dropping a reference to the Avengers. I think it was Mjolnir this week. I 'm not sure how long they can keep doing that before people get fed up and go and watch something else.

    Edited by IMO at 20:09:25 26-10-2013
  • Deleted user 26 October 2013 20:18:14
    Thought I'd watch this after skipping last weeks. Nope. Not watching it again. Shite.
  • beastmaster 26 Oct 2013 20:39:33 11,191 posts
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    Skimpies! I'm hooked ;-)

    The Resident Evil films. I'm one of the reasons they keep making them.

  • crashVoodoo 26 Oct 2013 23:21:41 3,853 posts
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    Next time I'm in traffic I think I'll whip out my phone and run Gridlock.mp4 and see what kind of shit happens

    Why does this kind of fuckwittery bother me but I'm openly accepting of flying cars, hulks and extremis etc.

    Edited by crashVoodoo at 23:25:39 26-10-2013

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  • Mr-Brett 26 Oct 2013 23:28:06 12,723 posts
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    crashVoodoo wrote:
    Next time I'm in traffic I think I'll whip out my phone and run Gridlock.mp4 and wee what kind of shit happens

    Why does this kind of fuckwittery bother me but I'm openly accepting of flying cars, hulks and extremis etc.
    I think it's the old "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." This stuff is so obviously nonsense to anyone which a basic knowledge of tech because it's not sufficiently advanced, so it's not believable as 'magic'.

    I guess it should be: "Any sufficiently vague technology is indistinguishable from magic."

    Portable view - Never forget.

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