CPU and odd overheating.

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  • Mekanik 20 Aug 2012 18:28:47 3,460 posts
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    Thought i`d ask here as the replies on the official Steam forums are....unhelpful to be polite (replies generally say its dev bashing.....).

    Got the counterstrike: GO beta and been playing it a wee bit. Not too much as it seems my CPU gets hot as fk within a half dozen rounds or so. By hot as fk i mean 85+. It was worse but i toned down max fps and some other stuff but it only made a minor improvement.

    Anyways, does it look like its worth upgrading to a super dooper cpu fan or is this possibly just beta code issues? This is the only game i play that causes this issues. D3, wow, crysis2 etc ALL run fine with no problems at all.

    Quite enjoying CS:GO (nice after so many years away from 1.6/source) but not sure if its worth forking out pennies for a better cpu fan for 1 game i`ll no doubt get bored of again sometime soon.

    @dirtbox: if you read this the pc was a build from easypc so i figured it would have some decent quality kit in it in the first place so this issue surprises me.
  • Carlo 20 Aug 2012 18:29:49 17,983 posts
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    What's the ambient temperature where you are?

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  • Mekanik 20 Aug 2012 18:33:59 3,460 posts
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    I`m in aberdeen. Today its hot (22) but the last few days its been not so warm and this still happens.
  • Khanivor 20 Aug 2012 18:34:28 40,490 posts
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    Play Diablo 3.
  • Mekanik 20 Aug 2012 18:55:49 3,460 posts
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    Been waiting for you to show up!!!
  • mal 20 Aug 2012 18:59:18 22,407 posts
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    If that's the only game that causes such a dramatic change then I'd have to assume it's down to the code.

    I don't know enough about PCs though these days to say a better fan would help. Perhaps it's running more code on your CPU if your GPU can't handle some stuff, or perhaps your CPU is old and inefficient.

    How hot is the CPU after playing some of these other games?

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  • Carlo 20 Aug 2012 19:07:22 17,983 posts
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    This is what I use

    20 from scan.

    But I don't know what CPU you have, how much room is in your case, or if you OverClock.

    I've got no complaints with it.

    Certainly just one game only seems weird. If you hit it with Prime95 does it get hot (or unstable!)? I get about 80 degrees when overclocked and 35 degrees ambient (internal sensor off the mobo) if that helps (i5 2500k @ x46 multiplier)

    Edited by Carlo at 19:08:42 20-08-2012

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  • monkehhh 20 Aug 2012 19:07:34 3,291 posts
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    Random thought - is vsync on? I remember a recent game (Legend of Grimrock?) that would eat all resources available and my system would sound like a cement mixer, until I slowed it down with vsync. Though I'd have thought this would make your GPU hot.

    How do you know it's hot / does it get super loud?
  • Khanivor 20 Aug 2012 19:09:56 40,490 posts
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    Ask Cat what she did to it while you were away. Probably used the fan intakes asa a place to practice her crochet.
  • Dirtbox 20 Aug 2012 19:49:40 77,633 posts
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    If it is indeed rendering unlimited frames then fps_max 80 in the console will sort it.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 19:51:36 20-08-2012

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  • Mekanik 20 Aug 2012 19:53:51 3,460 posts
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    Its a pretty new pc (a year old) i5 2500k overclocked a touch. GPU is more than enough to handle anything atm.

    I`ll run some tests later and see what figures it pops up with. Nothing else run seven close to as hot.

    And i notice it because 1) when i quit the game the CPU overheating warning message is up with the temp it is at and 2) if i run it too long i start hearing/seeing in game corruption which scares me then i freak out and close it.

    I`m just hoping its dodgy code just now and that the final game will have been refined somewhat. I know i`m not the only one having this issue and i really dont know if upgrading to some turbine fan will really help that much anyways.

    Maybe it doesnt like overclocked CPU`s. I suppose i can try without the OC and see what happens.

    Heading out for a bit. I`ll try to run some of those things to test it later tonight or tomorrow and see what it says.

    I suppose if 20 or so quid will get a super duper cpu fan its not that expensive (or a hassle) to just upgrade.
  • Mekanik 20 Aug 2012 19:55:08 3,460 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    If it is indeed rendering unlimited frames then fps_max 80 in the console will sort it.
    Its now at fps_max 60 and still hits high 80`s. Although it does appear to be different depending on which map it is (aztec is hotter than dust2.....go figure).
  • Dirtbox 20 Aug 2012 20:07:58 77,633 posts
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    Put cl_showfps 2 into the console to see how many frames it's running at.

    And it's the CPU that's overheating and not the GPU? This seems familiar somehow, but I can't put my finger on it. I'll have a think.

    In the options there's a multithread thing, try turning it off too.

    Do you play other games?

    Edited by Dirtbox at 20:10:43 20-08-2012

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  • Mekanik 21 Aug 2012 10:24:56 3,460 posts
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    Yeah DB its the CPU not the GPU thats overheating. Diablo3, wow, crysis2 and a few other shooters all work fine with no heat issues.

    Had a power cut last night (?!?!) so never had a chance to do any testing. I`ll fiddle later with things and see if it can be improved at all.
  • Mekanik 21 Aug 2012 15:03:42 3,460 posts
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    Ok. Been playing some wow and some diablo3 today. Seems that the CPU temp runs at around 70-75 celsius. I`m assuming thats actually still a little warm? Checked in the asus software and cpu is running max speed when it gets above 60 degrees or so and doesnt appear to be doing much after that.

    Ambient temp has been relatively cool today compared to yesterday. CS:GO still runs way to hot.

    I think an upgrade is in order for my CPU fan. Better safe than sorry anyways. Been a while since i ordered one of them. I have an Asus P8P67 pro m/b with i5 2500k cpu in it. I take it any fan i order should be suitable for fitting on the motherboard and nowt to do with the processor itself?
  • Mekanik 21 Aug 2012 15:18:05 3,460 posts
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    According to speedfan my fan is running 100% at 1875rpm.
  • Dirtbox 21 Aug 2012 15:28:52 77,633 posts
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    Yeah, de_dust would be my guess.

    Or too much thermal paste. Or not enough, or the hsf needs re-seating.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 15:31:02 21-08-2012

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  • Khanivor 21 Aug 2012 15:36:39 40,490 posts
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    Put it back at stock clock man. The stuff you run don't need the extra juice.
  • Dirtbox 21 Aug 2012 15:39:12 77,633 posts
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    Has he OC'd it? I didn't see any mention of that.

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  • mal 21 Aug 2012 16:13:19 22,407 posts
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    Mekanik wrote:
    Its a pretty new pc (a year old) i5 2500k overclocked a touch.

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  • Dirtbox 21 Aug 2012 16:14:20 77,633 posts
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    Well there we go. Set it to the default you fool.

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  • Mekanik 21 Aug 2012 16:39:59 3,460 posts
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    Ok. Might have eased issues, at least within CS:GO. Turns out the fps setting is fps_max (and not max_fps as i thought). Now its steady at 60 fps and the temp is barely scratching 70 now. Seems it was churning out some 250+fps before....

    On a side note i gave it all a clean just the other week when i swapped out my graphics card for a new one so internally its pretty spotless.

    And i`ll ponder on lowering the oc back to standard if this raises its ugly head again.

    On a side note surely this is something valve should really have addressed already? Unless its a feature just not in the beta yet.

    Cheers on the advice/abuse fellas :)
  • Dirtbox 21 Aug 2012 16:46:40 77,633 posts
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    Yeah, I wrote fps_max, then cl_showfps 2 to get you to check what it was running at.

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  • neilka 21 Aug 2012 16:47:03 15,813 posts
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    Get as much ice as you can through the vents, use a hammer if necessary.
  • Mekanik 21 Aug 2012 17:06:15 3,460 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Yeah, I wrote fps_max, then cl_showfps 2 to get you to check what it was running at.
    It was the cl_showfps 2 that made me realise the fps change hadnt taken. Seems it needs done on each load up. Ho hum :)
  • Khanivor 21 Aug 2012 17:15:05 40,490 posts
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    Mong.

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