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  • DFawkes 5 Sep 2012 01:16:41 19,304 posts
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    Damn new page! Better quote it as I'm lazy and I'm not going back a whole page.
    YenRug wrote:
    If anyone comes across someone using the eBay ID "nigew1", I'd suggest keeping clear of him, he seems a tad confused about things...

    A few weeks ago I won a big network server in a competition, unfortunately it's barebones and I'd need to spend about £400 buying hard-drives to make it usable; it's about £650 new, so I put it on eBay as a BIN for £600 for 30 days. On Sunday, he sent me this message:
    nigew1: Would you accept an offer of £500 for your NAS?

    Me: Hi, sorry to say, not looking for offers on this at the moment.

    nigew1: I only asked because I found I could get one delivered new at £640...
    Considering I offered delivery at £27, that's still £13 more, which doesn't really make much sense.
    Me: Hi, not quite seeing the logic: you want to offer me £100 less because you can pay more for it somewhere else? Whilst I'm not a business, the item is new and still in its box; the only thing I have done is lift the lid to make sure there is something in there, I have not touched the contents at all.

    nigew1: That is the point, your not in business and a not sold much in the last 12 months. its about trust, feedback, and the market, and lets face it, not much is selling at the moment, hence the offer. I appreciate that it is new and you have good feedback. We are all in the sh1t together with not much business happening. I've got 4 servers to offload!
    If you want to hold out its your shout. I have other options like the new synology DS412+ at £400 (reduced from £529)...
    Bonne chance.
    Can anyone else understand quite what his point is here? He seems a little confused, thinking that I have to be in a rush to sell it, because..... well, who said it has to make sense, eh?
    I've tried re-reading it a few times and still don't understand what he's on except "The economy is bad so give me your item WAY below that price", which is true I suppose but no reason for you to drop your price considering you're already the cheaper option.

    Congrats on winning the competition YenRug, hopefully someone will understand that £600 < £640 and take it off your hands :)

    Edited by DFawkes at 01:18:03 05-09-2012

    Kirby is the man! Even if he wasn't, he'd just ingest and become one.

  • MadCaddy13 5 Sep 2012 07:49:02 1,268 posts
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    There are a lot of twats about who are like that on eBay. I was selling my guitar at 1,300 and get messages like 'I'll buy it at 900' fuck off! I've stuck it at 1,300 for a fucking reason. I'm not looking to give someone a bargain
  • santashi 5 Sep 2012 08:22:37 3,400 posts
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    He probably thinks he is bamboozling you with his fabulous logic. :p

    On a side note, I haven't sold all that much on ebay but I'm surprised at the number of buyers who decide not to pay. There doesn't seem to be any real consequence to not paying as far as I can see. At least, I can't see anything on their pages recording the fact.

    I also had someone retract their bid, which I had no idea was possible, and when I looked at their profile it said they had made over 20 bid retractions recently. Does that have no consequence either? Surely it must?

    Either way, glad I'm not a business on ebay!

    PSN ID: finn1

  • Trowel 5 Sep 2012 08:38:23 15,030 posts
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    Shill bidding is illegal under EU fair trading laws. It's a particular problem in the collectibles market (I've done some trading in limited edition art prints) where people artificially drive up prices on other people's listings because they own the same piece and know a lot of people ascribe value using the previous sales history.
  • Sponz 11 Oct 2012 10:16:57 438 posts
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    Quick question - If you get a bad seller who is clearly selling things they do not have, and even marking items shipped when they havent, is this a matter for the police? Its fraud and deception right? A certain twunt needs his collar felt...

    I know i'll get my money back from paypal/ebay, but its the fecking principle of it that grates. Whats to stop anyone advertising new items, getting the sale on ebay, the funds in paypal, and using it to pay off mortgage or the whatnot ?
  • teamHAM 11 Oct 2012 10:44:41 1,482 posts
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    santashi wrote:
    He probably thinks he is bamboozling you with his fabulous logic. :p

    On a side note, I haven't sold all that much on ebay but I'm surprised at the number of buyers who decide not to pay. There doesn't seem to be any real consequence to not paying as far as I can see. At least, I can't see anything on their pages recording the fact.

    I also had someone retract their bid, which I had no idea was possible, and when I looked at their profile it said they had made over 20 bid retractions recently. Does that have no consequence either? Surely it must?

    Either way, glad I'm not a business on ebay!
    Normally its fine for me, but lately I've had loads of people that buy and then just don't pay. Specifically people that sit up all night outbidding others to win, and then just leave their computer without paying and often don't pay for days without any communication which means I have to chase for payment which is really not on. Like those idiots in Tesco that walk around the shop for 2 hours filling up a massive fuck off trolley, get to the checkout and make an excuse and walk out, just leaving all their stuff on the belt at the checkout.

    Morons.

    XBox Live, Origin and Games for Windows Live Gamertag: teamHAM

  • teamHAM 11 Oct 2012 10:47:09 1,482 posts
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    And seconding what someone else said, there is actually not a lot that can be done about it. Despite all the ebay guff repeating "it's a legally binding contract" over and over all that happens is they get an unpaid item strike (which sellers cannot see (although they can set their account to automatically block such people)) and you get your selling fee back (usually about 10p). Then they are free to bid again. Which is clearly not right.

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  • danathjo 17 Nov 2012 12:03:19 5,493 posts
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    So how long should I wait until trying to get my money back.
    Won and paid for a ipod classic (160gb) on the 4th, contacted them last Saturday and in reply they mentioned some excuse about thier car etc will send it on Monday, Tuesday at the latest. Now post has come for today and still a no show.

    Now I don't need it in a rush but it's the principle of it. Also, is there a time limit when you can claim your money back through Paypal?
  • danathjo 17 Nov 2012 12:34:45 5,493 posts
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    A month, might wait until next Saturday then (if not received before) until getting Paypal involved then.
  • danathjo 17 Nov 2012 12:36:29 5,493 posts
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    On seconds thoughts, Wednesday it is. As you say it just might speed her up if anything.
  • YenRug 18 Nov 2012 20:21:00 740 posts
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    Definitely don't leave it too long before kicking up a stink, especially if you paid via Paypal.

    I'm not sure of the exact situation, now, but when ebay first took over Paypal the complaint/claimback periods did not really mesh together properly; you had to wait something like a month before you could start the complaint procedure on ebay, with it taking up to a month of "communication" before they would even consider making a judgement. The problem? By time you exhausted all your avenues on ebay, the automatic claimback period on Paypal had expired, leaving you reliant on the seller's goodwill.

  • danathjo 18 Nov 2012 20:29:19 5,493 posts
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    have contacted the seller twice. one response so far but now I'm scared to leave it too late so will definitely go the official PayPal route tomorrow if still hsdn't arrived.

    I can see that she was selling other stuff yesterday too, just a bit frustrating!
  • danathjo 19 Nov 2012 19:50:14 5,493 posts
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    FYI from their FAQ:

    I didn't receive my item. When should I contact eBay?
    First, try contacting the seller for package tracking information or a reason why delivery is delayed. If it’s been 7 or more business days since you paid, you haven’t received the item or heard back from your seller, go to the eBay Resolution Centre within 45 days of the date you paid.
    If the seller estimated a delivery date that was less than 7 working days from your payment, please contact the seller through the eBay messages function first and allow 3 working days for a reply.
  • GuiltySpark 20 Apr 2013 15:41:36 5,917 posts
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    Won an item on eBay, paid straight away. This was at 11pm or something, and the item said 'shipped' at like 3am, which obviously isn't the case. The guy messaged me today saying that he can't post the item as PayPal says 'pending' (it says completed on mine), and that giving him positive feedback would release the payment.

    I messaged him saying basically he was wrong and that was bullshit (I wrote it formally, not like that!). This was today, is it too soon to open a dispute? Is the levels of dodginess high enough for me to assume that I'm not getting the item? Waiting seems pointless.

    I bought a fair bit of stuff at the same time and everything else seems fine.

    Get bent.

  • GuiltySpark 20 Apr 2013 15:42:38 5,917 posts
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    My bad, probably should have read the post above mine!

    Get bent.

  • danathjo 20 Apr 2013 15:52:33 5,493 posts
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    I think it's 10 days from purchase before you can open a dispute

    45 is the latest
  • danathjo 20 Apr 2013 15:53:59 5,493 posts
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    opps
    you're right, 7 days

    oh it was me :)
  • santashi 20 Apr 2013 16:04:33 3,400 posts
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    I think I actually read something about that somewhere - in some cases eBay was withholding the payment until the buyers had got the item and left positive feedback? Sounds bit mental though so it might be rubbish.

    PSN ID: finn1

  • GuiltySpark 20 Apr 2013 16:13:36 5,917 posts
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    Well I've essentially been lied to twice by this chump, once for the shipping notification and again with him saying I have to leave him positive feedback to release a payment.

    Dispute-wise, the fool has already messaged me saying he hasn't shipped the item, so if nothing happens then I'm in good stead, evidence and all that.

    Bit annoying really, I don't normally use eBay for these exact reasons. What i was thinking about the dispute is that he is basically keeping my item (which lets face it, may not exist!) until I leave him positive feedback. Surely this is some kind of violation of eBay's rules.

    Get bent.

  • wayneh 20 Apr 2013 16:35:42 1,833 posts
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    Best one had was when buying Frontline for my dogs. I bid and won three separate auctions from one seller. He then sends me a message saying he had grouped all the transactions into one item and had changed the P&P costs. Great I thought less P&P but in fact he had doubled the total P&P. I messaged back saying this and I would not agree to pay more for the items but heard nothing back so didn't pay. 7 days later I get an unpaid item message from ebay! I disputed this adding messages both he and I sent and thankfully ebay found in my favour. Still don't know why he done this as he has now lost 3 sales?

    Act like a dumbshit and they will treat you as an equal

  • santashi 20 Apr 2013 16:36:19 3,400 posts
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    Just had a quick look and apparently these days if the seller has <100 feedback or some other 'qualification' then a hold is placed on the money a buyer sends them for 21 days, which may be speeded up if they receive positive feedback before that or if they can prove delivery.

    Glad that doesn't apply to me - it sounds like a right pain, especially if the item is expensive to post. I believe eBay/PayPal still take their fees regardless of the 21 day period, too. :p

    On a side note, I found out with a one-off experiment a while back that if you buy/print the postage through eBay, it automatically ticks the 'sent' box, even though you've only paid for the postage, not necessarily put it into the hands of the post office yet.


    But anyway, yeah, you do need to get the item before you can leave feedback. They need to put it in the post.

    PSN ID: finn1

  • GuiltySpark 20 Apr 2013 16:46:41 5,917 posts
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    It sounds stupidly complex to be honest! I figured the guy was outright lying, but what you said tallies with his account, I guess. He wants me to leave him positive feedback so that he can pay the delivery charge (a tenner).

    It's a tenner, just fucking pay it. Unless the guy is a hobo then I'm sure he can stand to be ten quid out of pocket for a few days.

    Get bent.

  • santashi 20 Apr 2013 17:00:37 3,400 posts
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    Guess it depends if the auction was listed as 'clothes off my back' or 'my granny' or not. :p

    I can imagine if you sell a whole bunch of stuff to various people that could stack up to some +£100 price, which would be horrible if it was some kind of emergency fundraising sale and you hadn't realised beforehand.

    But they sold it to you, you have sent your money in good faith even if it is currently collecting interest in Paypal/eBay's bank accounts, and so they need to post it.

    PSN ID: finn1

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