Ah. I'll watch and get back to you.
LB, you really are a massive geek.
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LeoliansBro 35,046 posts
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mcmothercruncher 3,263 posts
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Immaterial 1,141 posts
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Registered 6 years agomcmothercruncher wrote:
Dropping all that gold into lakes in Switzerland? That's no just celebrity tax avoidance, that's pro-celebrity tax avoidance.
Has anyone mentioned the Nazi's yet?Think I'll just switch everything off.
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Doesn't apply, Mel Gibson lives in America.
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Registered 10 years agoInertia wrote:
I actually just watched that and I agree with almost everything he said... Apart from his insistence that people like him, capitalist or Entrepreneurs, don't create work. They do through meeting the needs of the demands of the most middle class.
[link url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCvf8E7V1g Why the rich should pay moe tax[/link]
This, for me, is an accurate TED talk on who really are the job creators in society.
It's symbiotic.Come and get it cumslingers!
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darkmorgado 22,518 posts
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Registered 4 years agoEyeLand wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if this leads to people casting a closer eye on the Tory's own tax arrangements, which then leads to them announcing further clampdowns on the non-existent "endemic" benefit fraud as a distraction.
Doesn't it make your blood boil, those damn benefit fraudsters?
(They haven't banged that drum in a while, which means it won't be long till the next round.)Now with 80% more Cthulhu!
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darkmorgado 22,518 posts
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True, but the way I took it was that it's not exclusively the rich or entrepeneurs that create jobs (charities, public sector, small business, etc), but that it is exclusively demand that leads to the jobs being needed in the first place.
I actually just watched that and I agree with almost everything he said... Apart from his insistence that people like him, capitalist or Entrepreneurs, don't create work. They do through meeting the needs of the demands of the most middle class.
It's symbiotic.Now with 80% more Cthulhu!
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gang_of_bitches 4,916 posts
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But his point was that the jobs are created in response to demand, not in anticipation of it, which doesn't exactly require the entrepreneurial vision that might justify a wage tens of times greater than average.Inertia wrote:
I actually just watched that and I agree with almost everything he said... Apart from his insistence that people like him, capitalist or Entrepreneurs, don't create work. They do through meeting the needs of the demands of the most middle class.
[link url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCvf8E7V1g Why the rich should pay moe tax[/link]
This, for me, is an accurate TED talk on who really are the job creators in society.
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darkmorgado 22,518 posts
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Registered 4 years agoTo be fair, many entrepeneurs get where they are by anticipating demand for an unproven product/service and taking a big risk.Now with 80% more Cthulhu!
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They have to have that to have any chance of making it. Generally they work insanely hard as well, which is often forgotten by 'the common folk'.
To be fair, many entrepeneurs get where they are by anticipating demand for an unproven product/service and taking a big risk.
Not sure how we got onto this subject.After chasing sunsets one of life's simple joy is playing with the boys
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Tom_Servo 13,218 posts
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Aargh. 11,141 posts
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Registered 2 years agoAnd jobs are sometimes created in anticipation of demand to be able to meet the demand when it does appear. This is quite common and is also true of established businesses that have peaks in their demand over a year.After chasing sunsets one of life's simple joy is playing with the boys
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darkmorgado 22,518 posts
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I'm watching it now and thinking "since when is Jim fucking Davidson an expert on economics?"
Jim Davidson getting into the heart of the issue on This Week right now.
Then I thought "Why are people still giving this cunt paid work?"Now with 80% more Cthulhu!
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Aargh. 11,141 posts
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Registered 2 years agoBecause they wanted a racist to do it and Lexx wasn't available.After chasing sunsets one of life's simple joy is playing with the boys
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darkmorgado 22,518 posts
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Registered 4 years agoAargh. wrote:
Very true, which is where stuff like data analysis comes in - looking at past/ market performance and anticipating peaks and troughs in demand.
And jobs are sometimes created in anticipation of demand to be able to meet the demand when it does appear. This is quite common and is also true of established businesses that have peaks in their demand over a year.
Very basic (and crude) example - if you run a hotel on a tropical island, you anticipate that you're going to get more guests during the summer months, so you ramp up employment before summer to meet the demand when it appears, rather than have the demand appear and not be able to meet it immediately.Now with 80% more Cthulhu!
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Aargh. 11,141 posts
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Registered 4 years agoAargh. wrote:
Heh. Nah, I grew up in Jersey. You know when they're ramping up for tourist season because you start seeing street sweepers in St Helier.
Someone's been playing Tropico.Now with 80% more Cthulhu!
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FWB 39,088 posts
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localnotail 21,439 posts
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Tom_Servo 13,218 posts
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Registered 3 years agoThe amount of money hidden off-shore from the taxman is apparently... at least £13tn
Worth taking with a pinch of salt since it's taken from a report by the Tax Justice Network, who don't sound very impartial (whoever they are). However, it was written by a former economic consultant and expert on the issue of tax havens, so who knows! I imagine it's in the right ballpark anyway, TBH.
This bit's pretty sad:
The detailed analysis in the report... suggests that for many developing countries the cumulative value of the capital that has flowed out of their economies since the 1970s would be more than enough to pay off their debts to the rest of the world. -
LeoliansBro 35,046 posts
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Registered 7 years agoThat appears to be the amount of money that has ever been hidden offshore. And yes, the source is hardly impartial.
More importantly that's an utterly meaningless statistic. Because they're quoting globally, 'moved offshore' is merely a proxy for 'put somewhere with a lower tax rate than where it originated'.
And as always, it is entirely legal.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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RedSparrows 16,870 posts
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Registered 6 years agoProduced by an ex McKinsey man rather than that group per se. -
Ex Mckinsey is a pretty good pedigree.
I don't think something being legal makes it immune from criticism.
I am materialistic, greedy and integrated part of the system but I am glad all these practices are under the spotlight if only for a moment.
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