The 3DS Virtual Console Recommendation Thread

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  • Raiko101 28 Apr 2012 11:17:38 6,055 posts
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    Just in case people are missing out on some classics, or just want to talk about the old games, here we go!

    Anybody got any favourites so far? With the exception of Link's Awakening, which I assume everybody has, Donkey Kong is the highlight of the Gameboy library. For those who don't know, it basically takes the original Donkey Kong game and expands it by 100 levels. It's a massive game with many clever puzzles thrown in too. It gets quite challenging towards the end, but it's not impossible. Great value for money and I strongly recommend it.

    I'm playing through Metroid II at the minute. I never really got much time with this game as a kid, so I do feel like a rat in a maze. The black and white colours really add to the atmosphere though. It gives it a classic horror film vibe. Only makes things more disorientating though!

    Edited by Raiko101 at 11:23:06 28-04-2012

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  • Afiddes 28 Apr 2012 13:23:03 1,164 posts
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    Outside of the ambassador games I have links awakening donkey kong kid Icarus and am just downloading super mario land 2

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  • redcrayon 28 Apr 2012 13:31:20 4,544 posts
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    Link's Awakening goes without saying really.

    Definitely Mega Man: Dr Wily's revenge next though. It's tough, but very rewarding.

    Donkey Kong '94 is fantastic too. I remember the first time I played it, I couldn't believe it just kept going on and on!

    Bionic Commando is another good 'un from the glory days of Capcom platformers. The arm mechanic replaces the jump button, and after the first couple of stages you'll be swinging around like a, er, Bionic Commando. It's still tough though- I never finished it back in the day, and only using the Save State function allowed me to get through one of the levels now.
  • Kid_Icarus 28 Apr 2012 13:35:18 556 posts
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    I've not actually played the 3D Classics version, but Kirby's Adventure is a fantastic game, well worth the 5.40 asking price. In fact it's probably the best Kirby game.
  • Afiddes 28 Apr 2012 13:45:59 1,164 posts
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    Ok add shinobi, mega man and sonic triple trouble to the list

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  • Deleted user 28 April 2012 14:38:15
    With the exception of Link's Awakening and Super Mario Bros, Punch Out is the best game on the Virtual Console right now.
  • DFawkes 28 Apr 2012 18:34:11 22,587 posts
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    I don't really count it as Virtual Console, but Kirby's Adventure is one of my favourite games ever and worth almost any amount of money. At 5.40 it's a bargain.

    I really love the Super Mario Land trilogy. I have a soft spot for the first Super Mario Land and play that more than the others, but 2 & 3 are also both great, with their world maps hiding lovely secrets :) If I had to recommend 1, I'd say Super Mario Land 3: Warioland.

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  • Afiddes 28 Apr 2012 18:49:06 1,164 posts
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    @DFawkes I have pretty much spent the afternoon on super mario world 2 was nearly finished used a restore point went off come back and it hadn't saved. Oh well guess I will start again tomorrow lol I also played shinobi for a bit really do love that game

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  • Raiko101 29 Apr 2012 21:12:17 6,055 posts
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    My first impressions of Megaman aren't all that great, unforunately. I can't really fault the game as it's meant to be challenging, but I just cannot get used to that jump mechanic. Maybe i've been playing too much Mario recently, but I don't like how you can change direction and hit full speed when jumping. It really makes things harder than they should be. Especially on the IceMan stage.

    Again, it's not really a fault with the game. It's me. Just not getting along with it all too well at the minute. Back to Metroid II for the time being!

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  • redcrayon 29 Apr 2012 23:10:12 4,544 posts
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    Megaman always gets easier once you get a few weapon options- Fireman's weapon is the best all-purpose weapon, as it circles you as well as firing forward, great for defence and also for farming the annoying birds that drop eggs, and the little mole machine things that drop out of the ceiling in some sections.

    Tip- do Iceman first, he's the easiest to beat. Rooms you can get in and out of with ladders, if they have easily beaten crappy enemies, you can farm them for items.

    You can also edge right out over gaps- Megaman doesn't fall down a gap if he is standing on a ledge by about 2 pixels!

    Lots of the jumps are really pixel-perfect though, and it is a difficult game- I only got through them as a nipper through trial and error really.

    Megaman 2 GB is much, much easier.
  • Afiddes 30 Apr 2012 06:23:14 1,164 posts
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    All I can say from my weekend of vc gaming is that modern games really have got easier, I must have died over 50times in shinobi before I managed to rescue pink without dying and struggle to rescue the other three (boss battles are particularly hard as there is no way of knowing how you are meant to destroy them.

    My list of fravorite to worst vc games goes (not including links awakening)

    Donkey kong
    Super mario world.2
    Shinobi
    Sonic triple trouble
    Megaman

    The only reason megaman is at the bottom is because it's so frustratingly hard lol

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  • Raiko101 30 Apr 2012 07:17:55 6,055 posts
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    Kirby's Dreamland is an easy one, though completing it unlocks a harder mode. Haven't managed to complete that mode yet.

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  • redcrayon 30 Apr 2012 15:49:17 4,544 posts
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    GG Shinobi is pretty tough, I'm not that impressed with it.

    Super Mario Land 2 is just a bit too easy for me, although I enjoyed getting the secret exits back in the day, some of them are quite fiendish to find. It has some interesting mechanics too- like holding down the jump button with Rabbit Ears to jump constantly, and the slow space jump on the spacesuit levels! The battle with Wario is quite cool too.

    Being able to win 99 extra lives in the casino is perhaps a little overboard with it's generosity...

    Edited by redcrayon at 15:54:33 30-04-2012
  • redcrayon 30 Apr 2012 15:56:10 4,544 posts
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    Blaster Master is also good fun, and I'm considering picking up Punch-out, but it seems a bit pricey at 4.50.

    Perhaps I should stop comparing VC games to how much I spent on my sandwich at lunch. Or start eating pricier sandwiches! ;-)

    Edited by redcrayon at 15:57:06 30-04-2012
  • Cadence 30 Apr 2012 16:01:37 1,677 posts
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    That's it, just start buying your lunch at Pret a Manger.
  • redcrayon 30 Apr 2012 16:15:09 4,544 posts
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    But that would mean abandoning the little deli near my office- they do a mean cream cheese and crispy bacon sarnie, and need my 3. If I wander down to Pret, I might come back one day and find that the deli has been replaced with another Starbucks or something! There are only 4 of them within a 2 minute walk at the moment...

    Edited by redcrayon at 16:16:43 30-04-2012
  • Razz 30 Apr 2012 16:47:33 60,753 posts
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    That's a good point, I'll spend about 3 on lunch if I forget to bring a can of soup. I've always seen VC games as horrifically expensive, bu when thinking in sandwhich terms it's not /that/ bad

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  • redcrayon 30 Apr 2012 16:53:34 4,544 posts
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    Mmm soup.

    With fresh crusty bread? That's worth at least 2 megamen :D
  • elstoof 30 Apr 2012 17:17:12 6,600 posts
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    I tend to think of it in pint of beer terms.
    4.10? You're alright mate, I'll get you one.
    4.50 for a game? Hmm.
  • redcrayon 30 Apr 2012 17:25:00 4,544 posts
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    It's funny, with the 8-bit stuff, what is golden to one person is no more than a 2 minute distraction before deletion for another.

    Zelda will always be worth a fiver to me, same for Super Mario Bros, Kid Icarus and the Megaman games. Most of the other NES games I wouldn't bother with unless I had played them years ago and was sure of the quality, an awful lot of them just don't stand the test of time.

    Same goes for the GB- an awful lot of classics, Link's Awakening is still easily worth it's fiver, but some of the other stuff- Avenging Spirit, Side Pocket etc, aren't even worth a quid.

    What I have spent the most on is the SNES and Megadrive games on the Wii. 16-bit games are just far more likely to still stand up now, and have a vastly higher ration of classics to dross. Hopefully we'll eventually get SNES games on the 3DS, maybe with the Nintendo Network, but I'm not holding my breath after the release schedule seems to have slowed down to a glacial pace.
  • Raiko101 30 Apr 2012 18:10:06 6,055 posts
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    I'd recommend Punch Out!! myself. It's quite a unique game. I don't like boxing games normally, but this one is simple and addictive. Each opponent requires a different strategy and the game has a nice difficulty curve. At least to the half way point, which is where i'm currently stuck.

    I've put in 6 hours so far, which for 4.50 doesn't sound all that great, but I keep coming back to it.

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  • Raiko101 30 Apr 2012 23:10:20 6,055 posts
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    Made it to the boss of the Iceman stage, but haven't beaten him. I'm still struggling with that jump. Sometimes I just want to face the other way and shoot behind me, but instead I leap into it. It's really over the top. It makes the Iceman himself more challenging that it otherwise would be.

    Still, i'll persevere as i've at least made it to one of the bosses.

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  • roz123 1 May 2012 09:47:31 7,112 posts
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    3D: Excitebike. Didn't like it

    Links Awakening. Got quite far into it and enjoyed it, I should go back and finish it off

    Donkey Kong. I had this as a kid and I am sure it was a lot harder then it was this time around, but the memories came flooding back and I finished it off within a couple of hours. Very enjoyable though.

    Super Mario Land 2. Another game I had on the original GB, didn't get into it much this time round.

    Cattrap. A unique box moving puzzle game, kind of like pullblox in someways. Well worth checking out imo.

    Edited by roz123 at 09:48:16 01-05-2012
  • redcrayon 1 May 2012 10:01:04 4,544 posts
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    Raiko101 wrote:
    Made it to the boss of the Iceman stage, but haven't beaten him. I'm still struggling with that jump. Sometimes I just want to face the other way and shoot behind me, but instead I leap into it. It's really over the top. It makes the Iceman himself more challenging that it otherwise would be.

    Still, i'll persevere as i've at least made it to one of the bosses.
    it's all about getting into a pattern- stay in the bottom left corner, jump over the lower ice blast, and as you land, press 'left' to slide back into position in the corner, setting you up to jump over the next one. Keep firing to the right, he will stay over there, and concentrate on the jump-right-skid-left pattern as his blasts take off a lot of health.

    You can beat Fireman in pretty much the same way, but the other two are tougher as they run around and crash into you.

    Once you have the Fire blast, it will make the game easier.

    Oh, and experiment with the Ice blast when you get it- it can freeze things in mid-air, so is perfect for dealing with those huge robots that are only vulnerable while jumping. Freeze them then switch to the mega buster and shoot them up. same goes for the big robots that throw fire at you on fireman's stage.

    Edited by redcrayon at 10:02:51 01-05-2012
  • Raiko101 1 May 2012 22:10:14 6,055 posts
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    I'll have another stab at it tonight. I just need to practice with the controls some more. I'm surprised by how short the Iceman stage is, but is only a Gameboy game I suppose.

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  • Raiko101 3 May 2012 00:04:59 6,055 posts
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    Finally, I get somewhere. With a bit of practice I nail Iceman. Then quite quickly the other 3 all fall. The game certainly gets easier as you collect the weapons, but my problem was with jumping and there's no worse a stage to have such problems on that Iceman's stage.

    Glad I managed it in the end because the game has become more enjoyable as i've played on. You have to memorise a few patterns here and there, but that's the name of the game. On to Dr. Wily now!

    On another note; It's not strictly a VC game, but i've noticed that Twinbee seems to be the least popular of the 3D Classics collection, on the eShop at least. A shame because I think it's arguably the best game in the series. Quite challenging, but some interesting power-ups and a rewarding combo system that rewards the daring. Very much suited to 20 minute gaming sessions here and there.

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  • DFawkes 3 May 2012 00:43:29 22,587 posts
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    I'd certainly place it way ahead of Xevious in almost every way, it's a far more enjoyable game in my opinion. More variety, more forgiving without being too easy and more interesting game mechanics like the bell power-up system.

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  • JinTypeNoir 4 May 2012 10:49:36 4,365 posts
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    Twinbee came out years after Xevious paved the way for it and other shmups, so that's kind of like saying Super Mario Brothers is way ahead of Mario Bros., but that doesn't make Mario Bros. any less fun. Both are essential for shmup fans, but of the two only Xevious has never been duplicated again.

    I had a look at the Europe release list and I can recommend lesser-known titles that are excellent:

    Kirby's Block Ball - this one someone gets underlooked, but its utterly brilliant. It combines Kirby platforming with blockball with a very long, tough game full of secrets and stuff to do. If you get into it, it will easily become one of the longest and most satisfying games you play on the Virtual Console. It's also terribly unique and creative, a real hidden gem.

    Trip World - This game is kind of like the original Kirby's Dreamland, in that is it fairly short and easy, but just dripping with atmosphere. If you like, "Well, that was short, but oh so worth it and memorable" games, this is one of them. It's very surreal and sticks with you for a cutesy platformer. This type of game was the forerunner for the Limbos and Knytt Stories of today.

    Gameboy Gallery - a mini-game collection before WarioWare Inc. burst the genre wide open, this game is very full-featured and the mini-games are all extremely fun to replay, with a lot of secrets and unlockables make it quite long-lived if you get into it. The design is so many of these games is just so addictive in an old 80s arcade game sort of way. And this is a prime example of how if you update the graphics and sound of a game, the fun factor goes up by miles, as the remade versions of each game show just how much attention to animation and sound can make a game so much more fun.
  • DFawkes 4 May 2012 14:42:04 22,587 posts
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    JinTypeNoir wrote:
    Twinbee came out years after Xevious paved the way for it and other shmups, so that's kind of like saying Super Mario Brothers is way ahead of Mario Bros., but that doesn't make Mario Bros. any less fun. Both are essential for shmup fans, but of the two only Xevious has never been duplicated again.
    Well I have to respectfully disagree with that, Super Mario Bros. was so far removed from the original game it's almost a different genre entirely. I think the gameplay of Twinbee is similar enough that the comparision is more valid - same scrolling up, same bomb button for ground targets. Sure, there's also a lot different, but not nearly as different as the single screen Mario and SMB.

    If someone was new to 3DS or had never played them and fancied one, I wouldn't even hesitate in recommending Twinbee. Mostly because it feels a lot more accomodating to beginners - if they did buy Xevious, I'd imagine it'd be more to do with wanting a more challenging experience.

    I agree that both are essential for existing fans of the genre though, I just wouldn't recommend Xevious ahead of Twinbee to someone that knew nothing of them :)

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  • Raiko101 4 May 2012 16:27:10 6,055 posts
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    I can imagine Xevious might have put a few people off Twinbee, unfortunately. It's a shame, because I too think they're both great games. Xevious is much harder though.

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