Looper - Bruce Willis kicks his younger selfs ass. • Non-Gaming • Film • Eurogamer.net

Buztafen 12 Apr 2012 18:46:36 15,156 posts
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Just watched the 3 teasers for a new film called Looper. Sounds pretty sweet.

Basic premise is Bruce Willis is sent back in time so his younger self (played by Joseph 'im in loads of movies at the moment' Gorden Levitts in Brucie face prosthetics) can assassinate...himself.

Hi-jinks ensue.

Proper trailers up tomorrow apparently.

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mrcrumley 12 Apr 2012 18:53:28 335 posts
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Colour me interested. Looks interesting.

Edit: said interest too many times, oh dear said it again.

Edited by mrcrumley at 18:54:19 12-04-2012

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Aargh. 12 Apr 2012 18:54:33 11,186 posts
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The director, Rian Johnson, also made Brick which is brilliant.

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Buztafen 12 Apr 2012 18:57:32 15,156 posts
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To be honest either leads involvement would make me want to go see a movie. Having both of them there and attempting to kill each other makes it all the better.

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SolidSCB 12 Apr 2012 18:58:46 4,533 posts
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It sounds fucking excellent in a 'this makes no fucking sense, but is awesome anyway' sort of way. Plus Willis is always a winner with me.

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Aargh. 12 Apr 2012 19:02:11 11,186 posts
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Bruce hasn't been enough to make me want to see a film for a long time but Levitt is a very good actor that seems to be good at picking interesting roles.

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BinaryBob101 12 Apr 2012 19:05:01 21,078 posts
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The timey-wimey stuff has been helped along by the writer from Primer, so it should be a total headfuck.

Looking forward to it.

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Flightrisker 12 Apr 2012 20:58:38 18,073 posts
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"In the futuristic action thriller Looper, time travel will be invented - but it will be illegal and only available on the black market. When the mob wants to get rid of someone, they will send their target 30 years into the past, where a "looper" - a hired gun, like Joe (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) - is waiting to mop up. Joe is getting rich and life is good... until the day the mob decides to "close the loop," sending back Joe's future self (Bruce Willis) for assassination."

It doesn't matter how many times I read that it just never makes any sense to me. Why send them back in time? Why not just kill them? How is that any better? What am I not getting here?

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Aargh. 12 Apr 2012 21:02:30 11,186 posts
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I guess because the killer is untraceable because they don't exist yet, or something similar.

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ecureuil 12 Apr 2012 21:05:31 74,177 posts
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Looks pretty cool, though I am a little disappointed they couldn't make young Bruce look exactly as he used to. The description made me think of Die Hard Bruce Willis fighting his current self. I thought movie special effects would be able to achieve this by now.

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Aargh. 12 Apr 2012 21:07:30 11,186 posts
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They can, although it would probably end up looking as good as Bridges did in Tron. This is a pretty low budget film so prosthetics was probably their only good option.

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darkmorgado 12 Apr 2012 21:10:07 22,600 posts
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Paradox brain melt incoming...

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darkmorgado 12 Apr 2012 21:12:49 22,600 posts
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Aargh. wrote:
I guess because the killer is untraceable because they don't exist yet, or something similar.

Or maybe trying to undo something his younger self did in some sort of attempt to change a course of events?

But the whole "kill your younger self" thing would just cause a paradox, thereby undoing the murder anyway.

Unless there's something I'm missing.

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SolidSCB 12 Apr 2012 21:13:02 4,533 posts
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ecureuil wrote:
Looks pretty cool, though I am a little disappointed they couldn't make young Bruce look exactly as he used to. The description made me think of Die Hard Bruce Willis fighting his current self. I thought movie special effects would be able to achieve this by now.

They should just steal stock clips from Die Hard instead of a different actor and fit it all together somehow.

"I'm from the future"
"WELCOME TO THE PARTY, PAL!"
"I was sent to kill you"
"HOW CAN SO MUCH SHIT HAPPEN TO THE SAME PERSON?"
"Die"
"YIPEE-KI-YAY MOTHERFUCKER!"

/fin

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LeoliansBro 12 Apr 2012 21:16:02 35,125 posts
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Wasn't fussed until I saw the director. Should have known given JGL.

Interesting.

LB, you really are a massive geek.

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Aargh. 12 Apr 2012 21:17:02 11,186 posts
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darkmorgado wrote:
But the whole "kill your younger self" thing would just cause a paradox, thereby undoing the murder anyway.

Unless there's something I'm missing.

I think you might have discovered part of the plot.

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mrpon 12 Apr 2012 21:23:48 24,107 posts
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I've heard there is a dutch rudder scene.

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neilka 12 Apr 2012 21:23:59 12,054 posts
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Change the k in the thread title to an l and I'm in.

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HanzNolo 13 Apr 2012 07:25:40 2 posts
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Flightrisker wrote:
It doesn't matter how many times I read that it just never makes any sense to me. Why send them back in time? Why not just kill them? How is that any better? What am I not getting here?

The film explains that it is much harder to dispose of a body in the future due to "tagging techniques and what not". So the mob sends their target back 30 years to a Looper, hog tied and with a sack over their head, to be killed and disposed of.

The time machine is set to a fixed time of 30 years to the past, wich explains why they wouldn't just send them back to the dark ages or something. Though that could also severely alter the future sending them back that far dead or alive anyhow.

darkmorgado wrote:
But the whole "kill your younger self" thing would just cause a paradox, thereby undoing the murder anyway.

Unless there's something I'm missing.

The older version (Willis) is sent back to be killed by his younger self (JGL) in a process that is called "Closing your loop".

I've read the screenplay and seen this at a screening a few months back.

Hope this clears up some confusion (:

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Whizzo 13 Apr 2012 08:10:41 41,155 posts
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So someone just disappearing in the future doesn't suggest to the authorities that they've been sent back in time?

I thought the idea of a future version of person being sent back in time and being hunted by his younger self sounded like a plot Philip K Dick would have thought up, having watched the teaser it looks like something PKD wouldn't have thought up even when he was completely out of his mind on various substances.

It's going to take a lot more convincing trailer action than that to get this to be anything above the "watch it when it's on Sky Movies" level.

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Buztafen 13 Apr 2012 08:33:00 15,156 posts
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Well the trailers up. Cant watch it at work though.

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mrcrumley 13 Apr 2012 08:55:24 335 posts
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Really enjoyed the trailer. Look forward to this.

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PhoenixFlames 13 Apr 2012 08:59:14 8,404 posts
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SolidSCB wrote:
ecureuil wrote:
Looks pretty cool, though I am a little disappointed they couldn't make young Bruce look exactly as he used to. The description made me think of Die Hard Bruce Willis fighting his current self. I thought movie special effects would be able to achieve this by now.
They should just steal stock clips from Die Hard instead of a different actor and fit it all together somehow.

"I'm from the future"
"WELCOME TO THE PARTY, PAL!"
"I was sent to kill you"
"HOW CAN SO MUCH SHIT HAPPEN TO THE SAME PERSON?"
"Die"
"YIPEE-KI-YAY MOTHERFUCKER!"
/fin

:-D made me laugh that did.

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HanzNolo 13 Apr 2012 08:59:37 2 posts
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Whizzo wrote:
It's going to take a lot more convincing trailer action than that to get this to be anything above the "watch it when it's on Sky Movies" level.

Time travel movies are tricky and pretty much never make sense as there are always plot holes to be found if you look in the right places. Some movies (especially time travel/hitmen movies) require a suspension of disbelief.

If you can't enjoy something until the premise/plot summary is completely solid and void of nitpicks then this isn't for you.

Here is the director explaining the movie and the inherent problems that go with making a time travel movie. Specifically at 1:30