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  • H1ggyLTD 4 Oct 2013 19:08:36 1,621 posts
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    It stinks to high heaven.
  • Carlo 4 Oct 2013 19:11:14 17,949 posts
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    oceanmotion wrote:
    Apparently Sony are forcing the upgrade bundles.

    http://pixelenemy.com/report-forced-ps4-bundles-by-retailers-mandated-by-sony/
    That's not actually what it says though.

    Sony have allocated Simply their stock, 50% of which are value bundles. Frankly I'd be amazed if people didn't want them, given the choice.

    I think the reverse is more true; Sony are limiting bundle SKUs.

    Simply promised orders to their customers without securing them.

    This is a lot different from the previous gen launches where companies like Game where creating their own bundles with shovelware and crap plastic addons at full bullshit RRP, and if you didn't take the 'deals' you didn't get a console.

    Edited by Carlo at 19:13:04 04-10-2013

    PSN ID: Djini

  • Derblington 4 Oct 2013 19:12:53 21,347 posts
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    Well, they're making a limited number of consoles for launch and if half of those are in bundle boxes it makes sense.
  • GD71 4 Oct 2013 19:17:32 36 posts
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    @Carlo but the bundles aren't value. Aside from the mega bundle, there's no saving to be had from these bundles. It's not even confirmed that it's a retail copy in the bundle either as far as I can tell, certainly from the shopto small print it appears not to be. If it's not a tradeable game in the bundle it's worse value. I'm not impressed I've been pushed into a bundle as I'd have preferred a retail boxed copy of KZ.
  • Derblington 4 Oct 2013 19:20:12 21,347 posts
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    Pretty sure it was confirmed that Killzone is a disc so it'd make sense that watchdogs is too.
  • oceanmotion 4 Oct 2013 19:21:25 15,673 posts
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    It was still unknown, at least for consumers. So Sony or retailers are still a bit shady.

    Might cut down on scalpers just buying the console.
  • Carlo 4 Oct 2013 19:22:15 17,949 posts
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    GD71 wrote:
    @Carlo but the bundles aren't value. Aside from the mega bundle, there's no saving to be had from these bundles.
    Check your facts. The bundle I got (PS4 with Watchdogs) would RRP @ 399 separately. The price with an upgraded delivery was 389 for the bundle.

    OK so it's 10, but that's a saving. I've also read it's a Physical Copy, and you get some kind of PS+ sub too. Even a 90 day pass presents a decent value.

    Edited by Carlo at 19:51:11 04-10-2013

    PSN ID: Djini

  • scoobysi 4 Oct 2013 19:29:19 882 posts
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    oceanmotion wrote:
    Apparently Sony are forcing the upgrade bundles.

    http://pixelenemy.com/report-forced-ps4-bundles-by-retailers-mandated-by-sony/
    I doubt that as both bundles contain 18 rated content.
  • SFD 4 Oct 2013 19:45:03 484 posts
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    Do these updated bundles have an Ethernet port?
  • oceanmotion 4 Oct 2013 19:55:42 15,673 posts
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    Only with PS plus.
  • HisDudness 4 Oct 2013 20:14:37 957 posts
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    Ethernet port rental service.
  • GD71 4 Oct 2013 21:39:16 36 posts
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    @Carlo the majority of retailers are selling it at rrp of 399 so no saving. Even saving 10 quid, if you can't trade the game later I'd question the value vs separate console n game. Everybody gets ps+.

    Edited by GD71 at 21:40:51 04-10-2013
  • kadooosh 4 Oct 2013 21:51:30 1,321 posts
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    @HisDudness what is all them is ether net port stuff about?! I keep seeing people mention it but no idea what people are talking about!
  • Deleted user 4 October 2013 21:58:55
    @kadooosh its a joke that went past its sell by date a while ago.
  • kadooosh 4 Oct 2013 22:03:08 1,321 posts
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    @SG59 what was it tho? Something to do with a port on the controller?
  • Deleted user 4 October 2013 22:08:32
    @kadooosh It's the port on the console to connect you to the Internet if you choose it over wifi. It's on all consoles.
  • Fake_Blood 4 Oct 2013 22:12:21 4,085 posts
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    Except the wiiu.
  • kadooosh 4 Oct 2013 22:14:38 1,321 posts
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    @SG59 yeah I get that! I meant what was the joke about it on the ps4? I'm starting to think this isn't worth knowing... Ha
  • Deleted user 4 October 2013 22:14:56
    Really? Strange...ah well, X1 and PS4 does.
  • Deleted user 4 October 2013 22:16:23
    @kadooosh oh, sorry. Basically, people were trying to find faults with the PS4 and someone just starting saying it has no Ethernet. It kinda stuck...for some reason...
  • kadooosh 4 Oct 2013 22:26:49 1,321 posts
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    @SG59 Ahhh that was it! Haha cheers.
  • Carlo 4 Oct 2013 23:11:46 17,949 posts
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    GD71 wrote:
    @Carlo the majority of retailers are selling it at rrp of 399 so no saving. Even saving 10 quid, if you can't trade the game later I'd question the value vs separate console n game. Everybody gets ps+.
    Please, show me this 'majority' of retailers selling the bundle for 399 and not just the console + the game as 2 separate items.

    The official Sony bundles (of the console, and 1 game) are 439 (or about 370 to 380) due to some very favorable exchange rates recently.

    Sony have no official UK RRP for these bundles at the moment but if you order them from Amazon.de for example you'll see the PS4 is 399 (337), and the PS4 1 game bundle is 439 (371)...

    The game is 69 (58) so it's a good saving if you want that game... Not if you want to get a bundle, trade the game in, and get the console as cheaply as possible.

    You're just wrong mate. If the places you've been looking are ripping you off don't buy it from them. If you didn't pre-order and can only get it from a place that'll rip you off suck it up and pay, or wait for the console to be more widely available.

    PSN ID: Djini

  • FanBoysSuck 5 Oct 2013 00:02:15 1,453 posts
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    Carlo wrote:
    GD71 wrote:
    @Carlo the majority of retailers are selling it at rrp of 399 so no saving. Even saving 10 quid, if you can't trade the game later I'd question the value vs separate console n game. Everybody gets ps .
    Please, show me this 'majority' of retailers selling the bundle for £399 and not just the console the game as 2 separate items.

    The official Sony bundles (of the console, and 1 game) are €439 (or about £370 to £380) due to some very favorable exchange rates recently.

    Sony have no official UK RRP for these bundles at the moment but if you order them from Amazon.de for example you'll see the PS4 is €399 (£337), and the PS4 1 game bundle is €439 (£371)...

    The game is €69 (£58) so it's a good saving if you want that game... Not if you want to get a bundle, trade the game in, and get the console as cheaply as possible.

    You're just wrong mate. If the places you've been looking are ripping you off don't buy it from them. If you didn't pre-order and can only get it from a place that'll rip you off suck it up and pay, or wait for the console to be more widely available.
    I'm pretty sure you'd get stung by customs and pay the difference, if not more including postage. Otherwise everyone in the uk would import, right?

    For the emperor!

  • rare_uk 5 Oct 2013 00:10:05 3,562 posts
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    @FanboysSuck I'm sure you don't pay duty for products from the EU.
  • FanBoysSuck 5 Oct 2013 00:12:34 1,453 posts
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    rare_uk wrote:
    @FanboysSuck I'm sure you don't pay duty for products from the EU.
    If so that's a bloody good deal. I think I'm going to do a bit of bushing up on my German!

    For the emperor!

  • rare_uk 5 Oct 2013 00:17:25 3,562 posts
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    FanBoysSuck wrote:
    rare_uk wrote:
    @FanboysSuck I'm sure you don't pay duty for products from the EU.
    If so that's a bloody good deal. I think I'm going to do a bit of bushing up on my German!
    Check this for confirmation: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/post/buying.htm
  • GD71 5 Oct 2013 08:21:04 36 posts
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    @carlo ffs. All I am saying is most uk retailers, most of us have gone to game or shopto are doing the bundle for 399. They were doing the bundle for 399 as separate items. Now we get the bundle at the same price. If the game turns out, as shopto claim, not to be tradeable then that's a worse deal. And even your 389 deal is still shitty if it's not tradeable. I'm not wrong, I just have a different opinion than you. And I'm certainly not going to risk my preorder place to save 10 quid via a German retailer., for what will still likely be a poor value bundle. The mega bundle was the only great value deal out there. For the record, my bundle is 493. It was 493 with three boxed games. It's now 493 with two boxed games and a bundle. For that package it's probably still cheaper than your smug deal anyway. Still not what I preordered though because Sony are forcing bundles on retailers.

    Edited by GD71 at 08:26:16 05-10-2013
  • ElNino9 5 Oct 2013 08:51:39 13,294 posts
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    beastmaster wrote:
    If anyone wants to get hands on with a PS4 in the Manchester area. Just confirmed EA are bringing their games over on the PS4.

    http://www.playexpo.net/

    Edit: it's just Assassin's Creed 4 but will probably announce more closer to the time. EG has involvement.
    Nice, I'll go to that.

    You're around Manchester, aren't you? The Game staff told me that Ubisoft will be at the midnight launch at the Arndale Game in Manchester and will be giving away a load of free stuff of you go. Tempted to geek out and do it!

    Hated, adored, never ignored.

  • mikew1985 5 Oct 2013 09:08:45 12,612 posts
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    SG59 wrote:
    @kadooosh oh, sorry. Basically, people were trying to find faults with the PS4 and someone just starting saying it has no Ethernet. It kinda stuck...for some reason...
    Well that's not quite true.

    Vizzini started ranting about ethernet ports and through a series of protracted posts the joke was born.
  • beastmaster 5 Oct 2013 09:15:22 11,199 posts
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    @ElNino9

    Yes, going both days. I'm meeting a couple of mates (Ryze is one of them) there. May do breakfast at Trafford Centre on the Saturday. PM me if you fancy meeting up at any point.

    The Resident Evil films. I'm one of the reasons they keep making them.

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