(Red) meat is murder :(

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  • localnotail 13 Mar 2012 13:57:07 23,093 posts
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    In a fairly large study (120,000 people over 28 years), Harvard Medical School have found that:

    adding an extra portion of unprocessed red meat to someone's daily diet would increase the risk of death by 13%, of fatal cardiovascular disease by 18% and of cancer mortality by 10%.

    The figures for processed meat were higher, 20% for overall mortality, 21% for death from heart problems and 16% for cancer mortality
    Bacon, I thought you were my friend :(

    Will this change your eating habits?

    It's suggested that the risk comes from saturated fat, and the reason processed meat (i.e. bacon, ham, sausages, burgers) is worse is the additional salt and preservatives. So I'm guessing lean steak is ok.

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • Lexx87 13 Mar 2012 13:59:05 20,863 posts
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    "Will this change your eating habits?"

    No.

    If you eat bacon, burgers and sausages everyday you would expect an increase in heart disease etc risk, it's not really shocking news!

    Speak the truth hussy!

  • craigy Staff 13 Mar 2012 14:00:13 7,835 posts
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    Whodathunkit?
  • richarddavies 13 Mar 2012 14:01:01 2,899 posts
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    Lexx87 wrote:
    If you eat bacon, burgers and sausages everyday you would expect an increase in heart disease etc risk, it's not really shocking news!
    This really. I already knew it wasn't healthy to eat copius amounts of meat already. I'm not going to change my habits though. I exercise regulary to balance it a bit.
  • Nanocrystal 13 Mar 2012 14:01:05 1,130 posts
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    "increase the risk of death by 13%"

    Meaning death caused by health problems linked to diet, presumably? Also, what is the risk in the first place?

    If it's increased from 0.01% to 0.0113%, I'm eating those ribs...

    Also, link?
  • KayJay 13 Mar 2012 14:02:25 5,290 posts
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    /chows down on BK Double Whopper

    We are all going to die of something, why not enjoy the ride a little.

    Where's that Guardian article about the "Heart Attack" diner in the US. That looked awesome. :)

    /Dies
  • mrpon 13 Mar 2012 14:03:08 29,560 posts
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    Nanocrystal wrote:
    Also, link?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17345967

    Give yourself £5 or ½ gig, you're worth it.

  • roz123 13 Mar 2012 14:04:01 7,113 posts
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    I would rather die at 75 living my life eating red meat then live to 100 hanging around waiting to die sucking on a cucumber.
  • Deleted user 13 March 2012 14:06:02
    Nanocrystal wrote:
    If it's increased from 0.01% to 0.0113%, I'm eating those ribs...
    This is the key point, and it's the point that makes a lot of scary stats - from how we're harming the environment to the effects of second hand smoke - suddenly seem far less scary under the correct scrutiny.
  • KayJay 13 Mar 2012 14:08:02 5,290 posts
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    The HeartAttackGrill... :)

  • elstoof 13 Mar 2012 14:08:03 8,304 posts
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    What's an extra portion of red meat per day exactly? A half pound of mince every day on top of everything else you normally eat? do we need a study to tell us that over eating is bad for us now?
  • Nanocrystal 13 Mar 2012 14:10:20 1,130 posts
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    Urgh, that looks like Cheez Whiz at the bottom, the foulest substance in the known universe.
  • Deleted user 13 March 2012 14:11:19
    kalel wrote:
    Nanocrystal wrote:
    If it's increased from 0.01% to 0.0113%, I'm eating those ribs...
    This is the key point, and it's the point that makes a lot of scary stats - from how we're harming the environment to the effects of second hand smoke - suddenly seem far less scary under the correct scrutiny.
    Feh, you and your logic. I was just about to murder someone by giving them five portions of red meat all at once, as I presume the 20% compounds per portion.

    100% instant death! A Rustler's Microwave burger is the most lethal toxin ever produced!
  • warlockuk 13 Mar 2012 14:12:43 19,223 posts
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    They're all americans. They die anyway.

    I'm a grumpy bastard.

  • rudedudejude 13 Mar 2012 14:14:22 2,253 posts
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    Processed food may be bad for you HEADLINE NEWS SHOCKER.

    All of those stats are completely pointless unless reported relative.

    Unfortunately the media hardly ever report things as such.
  • chopsen 13 Mar 2012 14:18:16 16,289 posts
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    Yet another "x causes cancer" headline, and this one needs a thread?
  • BinaryBob101 13 Mar 2012 14:18:49 24,411 posts
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    Nanocrystal wrote:
    Urgh, that looks like Cheez Whiz at the bottom, the foulest substance in the known universe.
    Nah, burger sauce, innit.

    I am a carnivore and I care little that it may kill me a bit quicker. I love the meat and will never forsake it's toothsome beauty!

    www.TheGrumpyVaper.com

  • Deleted user 13 March 2012 14:20:56
    Chopsen wrote:
    "x causes cancer"
    I say we ban this mysterious 'x'.
  • localnotail 13 Mar 2012 14:28:57 23,093 posts
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    Actually, it's the Harvard School of Public Health. Study link

    According to the Torygraph

    The study found that cutting the amount of red meat in peoples’ diets to 1.5 ounces (42 grams) a day, equivalent to one large steak a week, could prevent almost one in 10 early deaths in men and one in 13 in women

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • localnotail 13 Mar 2012 14:29:36 23,093 posts
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    Chopsen wrote:
    Yet another "x causes cancer" headline, and this one needs a thread?
    I just thought people might like something to vent about.

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • X201 13 Mar 2012 14:41:27 15,734 posts
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    localnotail wrote:
    So I'm guessing lean steak is ok.
    Nah, acquired antibiotic immunity.
    You'll be OK eating the meat, but will catch a virus from a dirty telephone and go the same way as the Golgafrinchans

    Edited by X201 at 14:41:45 13-03-2012
  • mal 13 Mar 2012 14:47:21 22,828 posts
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    Nanocrystal wrote:
    "increase the risk of death by 13%"

    Meaning death caused by health problems linked to diet, presumably? Also, what is the risk in the first place?
    Last time I checked, risk of death for any individual was 100%, eventually.

    Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!

  • craigy Staff 13 Mar 2012 14:54:19 7,835 posts
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    Well it's never happened to me.
  • Fab4 13 Mar 2012 14:56:38 6,216 posts
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    120000 americans. God knows what they put in their food.
  • Nanocrystal 13 Mar 2012 14:57:41 1,130 posts
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    localnotail wrote:
    It's suggested that the risk comes from saturated fat, and the reason processed meat (i.e. bacon, ham, sausages, burgers) is worse is the additional salt and preservatives. So I'm guessing lean steak is ok.
    This should definitely be taken with a pinch of salt.
  • X201 13 Mar 2012 14:59:44 15,734 posts
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    They start 'em young in America.

  • PatrickEwing 13 Mar 2012 15:02:30 2,150 posts
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    holy mother of god
  • oceanmotion 13 Mar 2012 15:04:46 16,123 posts
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    Wow
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