Syrette wrote:Heh, thanks. If I had £90 more to spend, I'd consider it
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faux-C 10,585 posts
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Just bought a 22" BenQ GW2250 three days ago for EUR 130 in a local shop, and I love it. I was pretty sure to spend EUR 200+ on a Dell Ultrasharp 2312, until I saw this one in the shop.
What makes it different is that it's a VA panel. A not very widespread technology, but BenQ seems to be enthusiastic about it, and I'm too now. I was tired mostly of the awful viewing angles of traditional TN displays, and IPS displays like that of the iMac (or the Dell) showed me that it can be so much better.
The main advantage of VA is the contrast/black levels. I'm someone who's incredibly annoyed by the glowing "black" even on my Panny plasma, and even on the iMac screen. I want black to be black. This VA screen fixes that. In numbers: the (great) iMac screen has a native contrast ratio of about 1,000:1, this one has 5,000:1, and it shows. It's almost impossible to tell black on screen from the screen being actually turned off.
Its picture has a somewhat glassy tendency, and its colours fall slightly short of the iMac's, but for me personally, contrast/blackness/gamma is more important. And for EUR 130 it's an incredible bargain. I couldn't believe such a cheap panel could perform like that.
I have absolutely no ghosting problems, even if they're sometimes mentioned as VA disadvantages, and gaming works perfectly well (I'm no 10,000p120 hardcore gamer though).
It's not perfect, but again, what a bargain. I'm a VA fan now, and if I should buy a better, more expensive screen some day, it shall be a VA display again.
ibenam 2,264 posts
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Awesome story, what is the voxel capacity of that monitor?
3,560 per inch
Any idea what the difference is between that and the U2412m which seem a lot cheaper? I cant spot the difference?
also does it have built in speakers? cheers
DodgyPast 9,003 posts
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My main monitor is 1900x1200 but then it's a 27" Dell.
2nd is a 1080p Samsung ( manufactured locally in Thailand so was pretty cheap).
Biggest advantage of the 2nd monitor being 1080p is that it's cloned with the TV in the living room.
I was a pioneer of 24" monitors amongst my friends. And my Samsung is still going strong, never had any problems with it.
I bought a 24" 1080p 120hz BenQ recently (not for 3D purposes) for gaming. . It's a TN panel (IPS at 120hz don't exist yet) and is actually a slight step down from the 27" Dell IPS 1440p panel I used previously (now used for mac duties) but I don't regret the change in the slightest. My gtx580 was showing the strain at 1440p, at 1080p it'll be good for another 12 months.
The best bit is completely disabling vsync, saying bye bye to tearing for 95% of the time and hello 100+ fps in loads of games except the very latest and greatest.
Edited by yegon at 10:21:38 24-06-2013
@INSOMANiAC I believe the U2412m has less input ports. The U2410 comes with 2x DVI, HDMI, Display Port, Component, Composite. I think the U2412 only has DVI, VGA and Display Port (no HDMI). Neither have in built speakers, but the U2410 has a 3.5mm audio output so speakers can be connected directly to the monitor if you wish.
I believe both use different IPS panels, but without seeing the U2412 I couldn't comment on whether there is a noticeable difference. I suspect the U2410 has a better contrast ratio, but again whether it's noticeable is another question.
Ultimately it comes down to how much you want to spend and whether you find those extra ports worth it (I NEEDED HDMI, so the U2412 was a no go). I'm still happy to this day with my monitors. The only down side is how much heat they produce because of the size.
Edited by Cannon_Fodder at 10:49:50 24-06-2013
@Cannon_Fodder Cheers but after much deliberating Ive gone with this badboy
Iiyama G2773HS 27" LED 120Hz Gaming Monitor
@PenguinJim I'll stick to 16:9 for console gaming etc, it'll serve my needs fine, I don't want much out of life, just a screen that doesnt blur like fuck when I play games on it.
Confused about my audio though. I'll have my PC Via DVI, so I'll obviously have to get a soundbar, I'll have my WiiU, PS3, Xbox 360 via a HDMI switcher, what are my options for plugging those into the sound bar? is there some kind of audio switcher box I can get and were would the soundbar plug into the consoles? I have one of those HDMI audio splitter things for the 360 somewhere but the PS3 and WiiU remain a mystery. Or will I have an audio out on the monitor that I can plug into the sound bar that will automatically be changed when I change the HDMI?
Is it a case of getting one of these
plugging the PC and Monitor into it, then that into the soundbar?
Edited by INSOMANiAC at 03:02:27 26-06-2013
I don't want to use the monitors speakers. They're 2.5 watt and are supposed to be shite. I'm getting some dodgy bush sound bar with a 3.5mm jack so I can plug that into the tv but I'm assuming ill have to plug it into the PC every time I want to use that as the sound is being sent over DVI?
I'm with you, cheers, just need to collect my dodgy bush sound bar and wait for my monitor now. Cheers
How much is the sound bar? If its expensive, you could consider just plugging in a decent pair of PC speakers into the 3.5mm out on the monitor, or grab a 3.5mm male to RCA phono adapter so you could connect it to pretty much anything. I used to run a similar setup and used to connect the phono output to an old Hi-Fi where the only output from the monitor was 3.5mm.
@Cannon_Fodder Its all about space and there is non, i dont even know how ill fit the soundbar on there but definitely no room for speakers, it's 50 quid, probably be cack but whathifi rates them highly and they'll serve my needs just fine so long as theres at least a bit of bass!
Finding myself really torn between a 16:10 IPS panel and a 120/144hz 16:9 LED at the moment, anyone care to weigh in with their preference?
I think I'm leaning towards an IPS, but on the other hand a 144hz monitor (upgradeable to G-Sync no less, and obviously with the option of 3D Vision if I want to bother) is very tempting, I just don't know if it's worth it.
BeebleB 1,092 posts
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I've had an Asus 120hz 3d vision enabled monitor(VG278) for around 6 months. I've barely gamed in 3d at all, the colour reproduction is pretty poor, its either too bright or too dim.
120hz is nice though and its a good size but for the money I could have got a 1440p monitor or a big ass HD tv.
Unless you're gaga for 3D, don't let 3D Vision factor into your decision. Fun for 5 minutes then you ask yourself.....why bother? 3D has an unreal feeling, and only one game truly impressed me and motivated me to use 3D on it for a while - Arkham Asylum. Even then, I found myself barely noticing the 3D after a while, switched it off and never missed it.
Myself, I'm totally sold on 120hz purely for the higher framerates and the ability to viably turn vsync off in most games (not all - some go funny with v sync off and fps beyond 60 eg Skyrim), but that's highly dependent on your graphic card. I'm a big fan of 16:10, wish it wasn't so unfashionable these days, but if it's strictly for gaming you're probably better off with 16:9. Same applies to TN v IPS - I can live with TN purely for a gaming monitor as I'm sat in a fairly uniform position. If it's for multi use, prob best skipping the 120hz and getting an IPS. Viewing angles really are shite with TN's.
Edited by yegon at 20:26:49 05-11-2013
Cheers folks, I'm still undecided. When I think about the advantages of 120hz, especially the very appealing lightboost hack, I keep coming back to the fact that these days I don't play fast paced shooters as much as I used to, and never multiplayer these days. Plus I'd rarely be hitting a consistent 100+ fps in newer games as I tend to value visuals over fps, which means the main (or only) advantage of 120hz for me would be the elimination of input lag.
That's nice, but is it worth sacrificing image quality for?
I'm actually really leaning towards a Dell U2412M at the moment. 16:10, IPS panel... ideal in every way except that 8ms response time. Reviews and user feedback generally say it's a non issue, but the few people who complain of noticeable ghosting worry me.
Then again, given I've been using mediocre 1680x1050 TN panels for several years without any real complaints I doubt I'd find myself picking faults with the U2412M.
I know, I really ought to wait a few months. If I went the 120hz route I could get the Asus VG248QE which is upgradeable to GSync, but as I said I'm starting to lean towards a 60hz IPS now. The picture quality of that 144hz Asus looks pretty awful despite being well regarded as a gaming monitor.
If I do wait I'd worry that the choice of 16:10 GSync monitors will be pretty sparse though, if there are any. Options in that aspect ratio are already pretty limited.
I'd probably have jumped on that a few days ago, but I've already settled on the new Dell P2414H which is an improvement over the U2412M and is reviewing well. It's 16:9 unfortunately, but 16:10 options are just too limited.
Edited by Dr.Haggard at 11:49:01 09-11-2013
Was playing Batman Arkham Asylum this morning on my very old samsung TN 1900X1200 panel.
Still got a fantastic response time and looks ace.
Rusty_M 5,617 posts
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Anyone have any recommendations for a monitor, no bigger than 23/24" and no more expensive than £150, preferably for £130 or less?
So far I'm looking at the AcerS240HLbid, but I don't really know what makes a good gaming monitor. For me it kinda needs to have DVI connectivity.