Let's privatise the police! Page 29

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  • WrongShui 15 Nov 2012 21:58:40 6,619 posts
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    Chopsen wrote:
    Yeaaaah...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19801666

    A friend of mine, who worked at downing street actually, has trouble with that question. Keeps banging on about coins having no memory or some nonsense.

    Edited by WrongShui at 22:26:31 15-11-2012
  • Whizzo 15 Nov 2012 22:16:09 43,124 posts
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    A distinct lack of understanding what probability is there I think!

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  • X201 15 Nov 2012 22:34:29 15,461 posts
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    WrongShui wrote:
    Chopsen wrote:
    Yeaaaah...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19801666

    A friend of mine, who worked at downing street actually, has trouble with that question. Keeps banging on about coins having no memory or some nonsense.
    He/she is over thinking it and drifting off into The Gambler's Fallacy where the memory thing comes into play.

    Edited by X201 at 22:35:30 15-11-2012
  • X201 16 Nov 2012 05:49:46 15,461 posts
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    Individual turnouts ranging below mid teens.
    Highest reported so far 15.8%
    Estimated national turnout 18.5%, a record low.
    Wiltshire Police Commissioner elected by just 7% of eligible voters.


    Also Manchester by-election likely to set record for lowest turnout for a parliamentary election since World War II.


    A victory for democracy all round \o/

    Edited by X201 at 06:12:04 16-11-2012
  • SClaw 16 Nov 2012 09:16:53 826 posts
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20352539

    Woooo... good job gov. Good job.

    Higher than I expected, actually, but there's still time to drag that down.
  • ecureuil 16 Nov 2012 09:38:11 76,809 posts
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    When one of the local council guys visited my station at 5pm, he'd just come from another polling station that had only had three voters all day. o_o
  • jellyhead 16 Nov 2012 09:56:43 24,350 posts
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    My local polling station were disappointed they hadn't had the lowest turnout. They thought they had done.

    It's a bit of a shambles, well, a lot of a shambles. Are there any other official votes that don't need a minimum turnout in order to be valid?

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  • X201 16 Nov 2012 10:12:07 15,461 posts
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    We have a winner -

    A polling station in Newport, Wales, with a turnout of 0.0%

    \o/
  • SClaw 16 Nov 2012 10:34:51 826 posts
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    http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/gwentnews/10052591.PCC_ELECTIONS__All_quiet_on_the_election_front_as_voters_stay_away/

    lol. Only old folks voting.
  • Whizzo 16 Nov 2012 10:36:08 43,124 posts
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    I think I upset my polling station staff by turning up while they were having something to eat! By the looks of things they'd had at most 20 people all day when I got there at 17:30.

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  • Moot_Point 16 Nov 2012 10:44:18 4,080 posts
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    I expect these turn out results will be another excuse not to give us an EU referendum.

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  • El_MUERkO 16 Nov 2012 10:52:11 17,031 posts
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    Myself and Fi were voters 15 & 16 at 2pm. Lowest voter turnout ever! Really pisses me off that people with no mandate, often career politicians, will now run policing.

    Wonder when the first scandal of Party-A's leadership ordering Party-A's police commissioners to do something unjust to aide them politically. "hey, turn the police's attention away from drugs, I can't get my fix as easily as I once did"
  • SClaw 16 Nov 2012 10:55:30 826 posts
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    RESULTS!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20354044
  • SClaw 16 Nov 2012 11:07:25 826 posts
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    Gloucestershire saw 17.1% or 80,618 votes, while Essex saw 171,617 which is 13.06%. Some 79,906 people voted in North Wales, a turnout of 15.24%.
    Plenty of spoiled papers here at North Wales police commissioner count. Someone written "waste of time" in large letters clearly visible.
    Haha. I wish I'd thought of that!
  • Whizzo 16 Nov 2012 11:23:01 43,124 posts
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    I tweeted my disappointment that there was no James Gordon on my PCC candidate list a few weeks back and one of the candidates followed me back.

    He got my vote!

    Although it was down more to his statements and experience so following me doesn't get my vote normally. :-)

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  • Whizzo 16 Nov 2012 16:45:59 43,124 posts
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    Following me on Twitter is obviously key to success in elections, Simon Hayes beats Michael Mates (how he got the Conservative nomination is a mystery) and is the PCC for Hampshire & IoW.

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  • TheSaint 16 Nov 2012 16:49:57 14,392 posts
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    I wrote "This is a waste of time and money" on mine. Won't change anything but it made me feel better.
  • bitch_tits_zero_nine 16 Nov 2012 16:50:17 6,654 posts
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    I voted Tory, I figure that whoever gets the job is going to be wrestling with other departments for budgets and the Tory is more likely to be heard. I think I'd vote Labour at a general election though.
  • nickthegun 16 Nov 2012 16:58:31 59,932 posts
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    If they were going to do this, they should have done it properly. Ironically, I couldn’t pick my candidates out of a police line up, so why the hell should I bother to vote for them if they cant be bothered to try and win it? I just couldn’t in all good conscience put a cross in anyones box as I knew absolutely nothing about any of the candidates.

    Its not often I say this, but they really would have been better off letting the traditional committee of eton graduates pick the candidates, job interview stylee. We would have still probably got the wrong man but at least it wouldn’t have cost 70m to do it.

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  • Psychotext 16 Nov 2012 17:06:52 54,200 posts
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    The guy I voted for got in, with my second choice in second place.

    I wonder if more people would have voted if they realised that the real choice was private sector police vs public sector police.
  • localnotail 16 Nov 2012 17:22:06 23,093 posts
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    http://pccspoil.tumblr.com/

    wait - this one is potentially better (nsfw) http://policeccc.tumblr.com/ (due to penis)

    Edited by localnotail at 17:33:37 16-11-2012

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • nickthegun 16 Nov 2012 17:26:03 59,932 posts
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    Loooooool.

    Leeesten very carefully, zis erection has been a complete wist of term

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  • Psychotext 16 Nov 2012 17:32:53 54,200 posts
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    lol
  • Moot_Point 16 Nov 2012 17:44:18 4,080 posts
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    Haha. Well there wasn't any other choice Nick. Crabtree would get my vote too!

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  • localnotail 16 Nov 2012 17:46:57 23,093 posts
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    @Whizzo - was this you?

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • Whizzo 16 Nov 2012 17:50:16 43,124 posts
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    I bet if Jim Gordon had been on the ballot in all areas he'd been PCC for all of England and Wales.

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  • MetalDog 6 Dec 2012 22:54:52 23,697 posts
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    Hands up who's surprised!

    Police and crime commissioners accused of power grab
    Police Foundation warns of appearance of cronyism as almost half of new PCCs move to create well-paid deputy posts

    -- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

  • RedSparrows 7 Dec 2012 16:38:26 22,697 posts
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    Catching criminals!

    Thanks, super brain!
  • senso-ji 7 Dec 2012 16:53:17 5,909 posts
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    MetalDog wrote:
    Hands up who's surprised!

    Police and crime commissioners accused of power grab
    Police Foundation warns of appearance of cronyism as almost half of new PCCs move to create well-paid deputy posts
    Wasn't one of the reasons the PCC debacle was created was so that money could be saved?
  • Bremenacht 7 Dec 2012 17:45:15 18,253 posts
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    I thought it was to set up to prepare a layer of bureaucracy in which responsibility for bad decisions could be lost or at least fudged. That way, when our new privatised law enforcement agencies don't do their job or simply fuck things up, no-one will really know who to blame.

    ed. more to the point, we'll all know who not to blame - the government! Localise cuts, centralise spending.

    Edited by Bremenacht at 17:46:57 07-12-2012
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