Zero Escape: Virtue’s Last Reward Page 7

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  • santashi 13 Nov 2012 22:37:55 4,939 posts
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    @Flying_Pig Can be as short a time as 4 days, although maybe up to a week? Crazy stuff.

    And Joel, 999 can play on any 3DS. :)

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  • jarrodirwin 14 Nov 2012 11:44:37 3 posts
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    Cheers @santashi

    Mine has now been shipped. Guess I'll get it next week sometime. Gives me time to finish 999! Had one dud ending so far.
  • santashi 14 Nov 2012 12:03:44 4,939 posts
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    Great. :) I hope you enjoy them both. It's a brilliant series. Definitely finish 999 first though as VLR would spoil it for you.

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  • andywilkie35 14 Nov 2012 22:43:47 5,338 posts
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    santashi, I see you've got the platinum! How many hours did you clock up in the end?

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  • santashi 14 Nov 2012 23:01:18 4,939 posts
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    @andywilkie35 Hmm, can't remember exactly, but it was definitely over 30. I can check tomorrow if you'd like. I put it back in its case when I finished. :)

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  • andywilkie35 14 Nov 2012 23:07:22 5,338 posts
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    @santashi

    Top stuff, no need to check for me but cheers :)

    Up to 9 hours now so a fair way to go...

    ...

    A huge section of the flow chart has just opened. Definitely a long way to go!

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  • santashi 14 Nov 2012 23:20:44 4,939 posts
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    @andywilkie35 Yep, you should have a good deal of game left even if you're a speed demon. :) Any characters you've taken a shine to yet, by the way?

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  • mannycalavera 15 Nov 2012 00:23:21 1 posts
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    Hi there I was wondering if anyone could help me?

    I've played 999 and got one bad ending and half way through another play-through.

    Subsequently lost the game at a train station platform. The DS was in my hand and I accidentally squeezed the cartridge so it fell out and only realised once on the train.

    I am slightly curious as to the mystery of what happens in 999 but am reluctant to start it again, at least so soon while the game is still relatively fresh in my mind. I imagine in a few years time I could start it again and have forgotten everything.

    So: Am I in a position where I can play virtue's reward and come back to 999 in some years down the line without spoiling it?

    This is not the only conundrum I face. Whether to get a vita or 3ds xl but maybe that's for another time.
  • santashi 15 Nov 2012 09:08:28 4,939 posts
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    @mannycalavera Oh no! That sucks. :( One of my relatives seems to have lost my copy of 999 along with Another Code and some other good games, but at least I got to finish them first. I think some people are offering 999 in the swapsies thread if that's of any help to you?

    If you do get 999 again maybe try doing a few different routes first and leave the one you already did until last? At least it won't be as immediate then, and the other endings might give you fuel to finish it. And you will do it quicker second time round. :)

    If you play Virtue's Last Reward before finishing 999 you will spoil quite a bit of 999 for yourself, I'm afraid.

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  • andywilkie35 15 Nov 2012 10:31:40 5,338 posts
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    @santashi

    Taken a shine to Luna, who seems like a "good" person and Phi, because she's obviously a huge part of it and think she's quite funny. The most interesting person at the mo is K, for obvious reasons!

    Going to take periodic ten minute breaks throughout today to go to the toilets to continue playing!

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  • santashi 15 Nov 2012 10:45:06 4,939 posts
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    @andywilkie35 Haha, good plan. It is a hard one to put down with the story. I'd say those two are probably my favourites in the game, too.

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  • andywilkie35 15 Nov 2012 10:50:17 5,338 posts
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    @santashi

    The design of this and 999 is just spectacular. The way that each "ending" takes you down a path that drip feeds you more and more info, before eventually finding your way to the true ending where obviously certain things don't happen down that route but everything comes together.

    Still remember in 999, having an opinion on a certain character and then as you go through more and more playthroughs, that opinion changing as you find out more about their past and their motivations. Brilliant.

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  • santashi 15 Nov 2012 10:59:01 4,939 posts
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    @andywilkie35 I agree. And obviously since you have some choice over routes, you don't learn the information in a set order, which leads to having a bunch of deductions and suspicions that are suddenly completely overturned by a new discovery or titbit.

    Every time a theory or setup is mentioned in game you immediately start trying to work out how it fits into the overall plot. And then, when there's a major revelation, you think back over everything that happened and are stunned by how there were subtle hints about it throughout that you didn't realise the significance of at the time.

    That is some skillful writing.

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  • andywilkie35 15 Nov 2012 11:04:00 5,338 posts
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    Very well summed up. The fact that you can discover any of the info in any order yet still making sense in the overall picture, brilliant writing. You'd think some revelations would be better until later etc but not always the case.

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  • santashi 15 Nov 2012 11:14:11 4,939 posts
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    Yes, exactly. And of course, there are some red herrings in there. Knowing what to believe and what to be wary of isn't always as easy as it might appear.

    If I could make something half as good I would be seriously chuffed.

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  • ltbobby 15 Nov 2012 18:44:48 300 posts
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    Is this game better than the demo do you think? Or does the demo reflect the full game well?
  • santashi 15 Nov 2012 19:05:35 4,939 posts
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    @ltbobby I didn't play the escape section in the demo but I believe it was in easy mode. The game's default is hard, where the characters don't give you hints, but you can switch down to easy if you prefer. Is there anything more specific that you were wondering about?

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  • ltbobby 15 Nov 2012 19:18:30 300 posts
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    Oh thanks. Yeah im thinking of getting this for vita. Im just wondering whether or not to import it from u.s or get it here in uk with the japanese voices. ? Also wondering if its better on 3ds ad i have that option too?
  • santashi 16 Nov 2012 10:00:11 4,939 posts
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    @ltbobby Here's a quick copy and paste of my non-spoilery thoughts on the game, if that's of any help to you:

    I obviously don't want to go into too much detail about what I liked about the game as I don't want to spoil it for anybody, but it certainly has a very engaging story that becomes more and more interesting the further you get into it, and characters that largely develop well. There are, unsurprisingly, a number of great twists and turns in the plot, so you should have at least one or two moments where you gasp in shock as your brain quietly implodes at a revelation.

    The puzzles are generally very satisfying, with a nice sense of achievement when they come together, although a few of the extra parts to them can come across as a bit obscure at times. You can switch down to easy if you find them too tricky, but at some point you will need to do them in hard if you want all the information in the story (although you then have the advantage of having solved them previously to guide you).

    The new flow chart system in the game is very handy and much appreciated, as is the log that allows you to scroll back through the text.

    The English voiceover was superb, with a few voices in particular standing out for me, such as Phi. I really do think that it added something to the game (apart from a massive increase in expletives from 999) and made me feel more immersed.

    I was playing the Vita version and the controls worked well for me. I did end up pretty much abandoning the memo system partway through the game, though, and went with traditional pens and paper instead, as there was not enough room on the memos for the notes I wanted to make. Might just be me over-scrawling though.

    All in all, an excellent game and moreover an excellent story that I highly recommend.

    9/10
    ... And I can't say why I've knocked the point off because it would be a huge, huge spoiler.

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  • Zackv4861 16 Nov 2012 13:59:25 1,067 posts
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    Excellent i just imported this and this review makes selfish purchase feel less regretable
  • Murbal 16 Nov 2012 14:10:01 21,556 posts
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    I have Amazon credit. £22.49 pre-order price redueced to £0 means much as I'd like the English VO, paid copies of Ragnarok Odyssey and Persona 4 mean I'll 'make do'. Means I also support Rising Star Games too, so I get a warm glow from that.
  • Flying_Pig 16 Nov 2012 20:22:05 10,298 posts
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    My copy's arrived

    /excited

    But need to finish my LBP level :)
  • santashi 16 Nov 2012 20:41:20 4,939 posts
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    Enjoy! And when you've all finished I get to discuss it with you. :p

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  • Flying_Pig 19 Nov 2012 20:31:08 10,298 posts
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    Started today - so far so awesome :D

    Quick question - is it relatively to see all of the various endings? Assume you don't need to re-start or juggle multiple saves?

    Edited by Flying_Pig at 20:33:00 19-11-2012
  • santashi 19 Nov 2012 21:05:03 4,939 posts
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    @Flying_Pig Assuming the missing word was easy, then yep. ;) I only ever used one save file. You can skip to anywhere you've unlocked in the flow chart at any point.

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  • Flying_Pig 19 Nov 2012 21:23:21 10,298 posts
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    @santashi - yes. Thanks :)
  • Murbal 20 Nov 2012 09:13:02 21,556 posts
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    ARGH!

    Still don't know what to do about this. I'm erring on the side of importing the US version again.

    Perhaps I'll load up the demo again and sit through the novel section. See how I feel then.
  • santashi 20 Nov 2012 09:31:18 4,939 posts
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    It is a great English voicetrack. There's only one voice in the game I wasn't keen on, really.

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  • Murbal 20 Nov 2012 09:34:43 21,556 posts
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    Yeah. Not helping. :-)
  • santashi 20 Nov 2012 09:37:22 4,939 posts
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    Hmm, well, you've got P4:G coming, haven't you? That will take up many, many hours of your time, during which you can make a decision about which version of Virtue's Last Reward to get. No need to get it straightaway apart from it being brilliant.

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