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  • asha 28 Feb 2012 17:02:00 2,023 posts
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    I'm considering picking up an original Xbox for some nostalgia fun and I just wanted to know, I've heard they supported HD resolutions, what will I need to get the console to output to my HDTV at those resolutions? Will I need a NTSC US console for optimal image quality or will a PAL console do?

    And also, are all Xbox games capable of outputting at HD resolutions, or only certain ones? And if so, is there a list out there of which ones?

    Cheers.
  • Deleted user 28 February 2012 17:58:42
    Some games worked through VGA, no idea what res they'd output at but I wouldn't get your hopes up.
  • itamae 28 Feb 2012 18:07:25 10,131 posts
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    A PAL console is fine, you just need to soft-mod it (because Microsoft in their infinite wisdom decided to disable 720p output on PAL consoles through the firmware) and invest in a component cable. Off the top of my head the only HD game I can only think of is Soul Calibur 2, but even there I'm not sure if that's just the US version.
  • mAc6 29 Feb 2012 00:00:12 3,018 posts
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    There are some HD games on XBOX (1), they are in 720p, some even in 1080i. PAL versions work the same as USA version of game: both in HD, code on disc is the same.

    With softmod XBOX thinks its from America and will use NTSC system.

    Advantage of softmodding (very easy to do btw): all (with some exceptions*) games will now be able to be viewed in glorious progressive mode: 480p instead of louzy 480i(nterlaced), this will give you the most profit of all.

    HD in XBOX games is nice, but the hardware cant do it justice like a 360 or PS3 can, so advantage of HD to basic game-engines isnt that big. BUT 480 Progressive everything is really welcome: makes it feel very stable and fast, more depth and very smooth.

    Component (HD) cable is also nice to have, because hooking up any console trough SCART or SVIDEO or -yuk- composite is terrible when using flatscreen HD technology. This has to do with scaling. Thats why the progressive part is so important, that way tele doesnt have to do that part of scaling anymore.

    Its a nice little project if you go do your own softmodding, dont worry its easy (even i did it, i am a modnoob), lots of walkthroughs on internet, even here on EG!!)
    Just make sure to find a good component cable for XBOX, there are some terrible 3rd party ones that wont give you good results.

    Research and enjoy!!


    *: There are some exceptions: some SEGA games were tailored for the PAL market, like HALO (Pal version), so code is bit different from USA version and not all of those SEGA games will work in progressive mode or work at all trough component video cables). In that case the USA version of the game will work in HD on your softmodded PAL console.

    justlovethoselists
  • D_arkTrooper 29 Feb 2012 10:49:27 1,449 posts
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    As already mentioned, a soft modded X-Box is a great little machine. It's also pretty decent as am emulation machine too.

    But seriousy, good luck finding a decent component cable. The official ones and the Monster cables are rarer than hens teeth.
  • Gambit1977 2 Mar 2012 09:18:03 10,401 posts
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    I THINK I still have a component cable I bought from Videogamesplus...I'll check when I get home from work.
  • asha 12 Mar 2012 00:41:40 2,023 posts
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    @mAc6 Thank you for your brilliant reply! I'll definitely follow your advice and softmod an xbox.

    Have your tried XBMC with it? I wonder how well it would handle HD video?

    I like the idea of using it as a cheap media centre for the bedroom.
  • johnson81 13 Mar 2012 22:10:09 392 posts
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    Back in the day I had a softmodded Xbox. I think that's what made the Xbox one of my favourite consoles. From what I can remember I don't think XBMC played 720p files very well. I used it for normal Divx files as they played fine but HD was a bit too much for the Xbox to handle.

    Emulation was awesome on the Xbox and the games I can remember playing a in HD were Dragons Lair 3d and Freedom Fighters (an awesome game).
  • Deleted user 13 March 2012 22:14:06
    that gif cracks me up

    :p
  • mAc6 14 Mar 2012 01:29:00 3,018 posts
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    @asha

    Well thank you asha for your kind words, have not tried XBMC, havent got any download vids, friend of mine had it enabled when XBOX was still all the rage (7 years ago?), looked very cool, think i read people are still very fond of capabilities of streaming HD video, radio stations etc etc in latest build of XBMC. Without XBMC there wouldnt be the xbox 360 we know today, they showed MS how it could be done.

    Again: in EG forum XBOX softmod section you find all the right info you need, i did use it for my modding (woot woot), think i will thank them actually in that tread for making it so easy to read/understand, been on EG just a month after lurking for godknowshowlong (hint: long!!)
  • figgis 14 Mar 2012 09:55:27 7,588 posts
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    Thought the xbox was fine at 720p streaming from a PC but struggled with anything larger. Been ages since I used mine.
  • coastal 14 Mar 2012 10:24:57 5,416 posts
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    On a standard XBox the following HD formats are supported:
    480i/480p/576i/576p output at 480p (Not Scaled).
    480i/480p/576i/576p output at 720p (Upscaled).
    480i/480p/576i/576p output at 1080i (Upscaled).
    The following video resolutions are NOT supported, at any output resolution:
    720p
    1080i

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  • DUFFMAN5 17 Feb 2017 08:48:21 20,858 posts
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    Not too sure if this will get any attention, but before I start a new thread, it is worth a shot.

    I want to connect my original Xbox (standard, no upgrades) to one of my TV's problem being that all afore mentioned TV's have hdmi inputs only, or at least they do not have scart.

    I have looked on Amazon and you can buy scart to hdmi is this all I need, if so could someone link one that will work out of the box?
    I'm not interested in the quality being better than scart to scart (I'm sure it wouldn't be anyway), that was always fine,, just want to play some xbox games.

    Thank you in advance
  • Jono62 17 Feb 2017 08:55:54 16,981 posts
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    Hi Duff

    This site does what you are asking for

    https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/xbox-original-rgb-scart-cable-for-sale-with-optional-cysnc-composite-plus-rca-sound-breakout

    Looks pricy to me but will definitely work straight away or you could try this one

    http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/130956078134?_mwBanner=1
  • DUFFMAN5 17 Feb 2017 09:03:03 20,858 posts
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    @Jono62
    Thank you mate :)
  • y2rich 17 Feb 2017 09:08:51 2,812 posts
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    For other similar Qs on old consoles also look at My Life in Gaming on YouTube. They've got a cracking series on getting the best picture from old consoles
  • Psiloc 17 Feb 2017 09:12:38 3,430 posts
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    Jono62 wrote:
    Hi Duff

    This site does what you are asking for

    https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/xbox-original-rgb-scart-cable-for-sale-with-optional-cysnc-composite-plus-rca-sound-breakout

    Looks pricy to me but will definitely work straight away or you could try this one

    http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/130956078134?_mwBanner=1
    Aren't they just RGB SCART? He wants HDMI.

    I think you'll need something like a Framemeister.
  • mAc6 17 Feb 2017 09:54:18 3,018 posts
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    Jeez,five years ago I responded to Asha, now we are happily married with 2 xboxes who have their own softmodded ones on the way
  • D_arkTrooper 17 Feb 2017 15:43:08 1,449 posts
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    Funnily enough was looking into the same thing earlier and I found this:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/COMPONENT-YPBPR-converter-supports-1080p/dp/B00ENH8OV8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1487346137&sr=8-2&keywords=neet+component+to+hdmi
  • donpawley 17 Feb 2017 17:55:50 33 posts
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    I have been trying several connections to my LCD tv over the last few days and decided the component (REd Green and Blue cables) have provided the best picture quality. Decided to spend my Switch money on a N64, GameCube and Orginal Xbox and around 60 games. I still think I am in pocket! I picked up the cable on eBay and while not a pucker Microsoft cable looks better then any other connection.

    Happy "retro" gaming!
  • alasdairm 17 Feb 2017 17:57:37 197 posts
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    Have a look for the dooms-dayer Xbox on the tweed monks website
    Can be modded with integrated hdmi socket & 2 Tb hard drive with full set of Xbox games installed
    Very tempted to get one - been swithering since seeing this before Xmas

    Edited by alasdairm at 17:58:09 17-02-2017
  • alasdairm 17 Feb 2017 18:01:59 197 posts
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    There are some 1080i games Dragons Lair (not the laser disc game), Atari Anthology & enter the matrix (I think)
  • samharper 17 Feb 2017 18:04:06 686 posts
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    Is softmodding really that easy? Last time I checked, you needed a soldering iron...
  • D_arkTrooper 18 Feb 2017 09:16:36 1,449 posts
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    When I did mine 6 or 7 years or so ago there was no soldering required. I'd imagine the process is even more straight forward nowadays. I think the process of swapping out the hard drive for a bigger one is the slightly complicated part.... at least it was years ago.
  • anephric 18 Feb 2017 11:11:11 2,477 posts
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    Even some of the hardware mods don't require soldering, just a fibre-glass pen to scratch away on a track on the PCB.

    I did a half-ass non-solder chip mod at the time and it's still going strong.
  • y2rich 18 Feb 2017 19:20:58 2,812 posts
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    I think I had something like an executer 2 chip or something in mine. Was as easy as scratching a trace off the board, fitting the chip in its holder and putting that in place. Most difficult bit was putting it all back together afterwards. Took 10 mins tops
  • mal 19 Feb 2017 01:45:37 27,022 posts
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    Quite fun reading a thread recommending an xbox as an emu station when the rPi would be released the very next day.
  • ChocNut 19 Feb 2017 02:25:22 2,281 posts
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    mAc6 wrote:
    Jeez,five years ago I responded to Asha, now we are happily married with 2 xboxes who have their own softmodded ones on the way
    Cool!
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