Megaupload Shut Down, 6 Arrests. Page 8

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  • Tom_Servo 24 Jan 2012 16:14:18 17,330 posts
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    Yeah, that's the crucial difference really. By virtue of how torrents work, you're sharing the content when you upload it back, which isn't the case for cyber-locker sites unless you're one of the people who upload albums and films.
  • senso-ji 24 Jan 2012 16:14:28 5,800 posts
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    meme wrote:
    I had a mate who used Megaupload over torrents as he believed it was completely safe and there would be no way of tracing him.
    He still is safe - unless he downloaded illegal (i.e. obscene stuff) content.
  • Deleted user 24 January 2012 16:20:30
    He's safe to the extent that no-one will bother hunting him down for grabbing rar'ed cam vids, but he thought it was absolutely untraceable, that he was some sort of elite piracy ninja.
  • Load_2.0 24 Jan 2012 16:50:01 18,944 posts
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    I used Megaupload, rapidshare, and Oron as I found newsgroups and torrents to be a pain in the arse and prone to speed issues.

    D/L was fast enough and stability was better plus there was less fake/virus/shite that came through.
  • MrDigital 24 Jan 2012 17:55:11 1,866 posts
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    senso-ji wrote:
    meme wrote:
    I had a mate who used Megaupload over torrents as he believed it was completely safe and there would be no way of tracing him.
    He still is safe - unless he downloaded illegal (i.e. obscene stuff) content.
    Unsafe if you downloaded from Megaupload?

    Tomorrow's news: "500m people being charged by the FBI for breaking copyright laws!"

    Formerly TheStylishHobo and Geesh.

  • Dirtbox 24 Jan 2012 18:14:18 77,480 posts
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    senso-ji wrote:
    meme wrote:
    I had a mate who used Megaupload over torrents as he believed it was completely safe and there would be no way of tracing him.
    He still is safe - unless he downloaded illegal (i.e. obscene stuff) content.
    Bullshit. Although if there were stuff like child porn on there then I wouldn't mind if they were arrested tbh, but it's not going to happen.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 18:15:08 24-01-2012

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  • kalel 24 Jan 2012 18:19:51 86,420 posts
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    So, it's ok to get child porn or no?
  • Load_2.0 24 Jan 2012 18:21:28 18,944 posts
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    It is like the ancient riddle.....

    If you wank over a picture of yourself as a baby in th bath are you really a paedo.....?
  • Fake_Blood 24 Jan 2012 18:27:26 4,082 posts
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    How can that be an ancient riddle if it involves photographs?
  • Chopsen 24 Jan 2012 18:30:22 15,735 posts
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    I've got this vague idea that just downloading pirated stuff is not actually illegal. Using P2P is illegal because you are by design also uploading at the same time (hence court cases where "mum of 3 gets sued for 10k for downloading Katy Perry" etc), and that means you're distributing and that definately is illegal.#

    If just downloading was illegal, you'd break the law just by watching youtube most of the time.

    ianal etc
  • Psychotext 24 Jan 2012 18:45:00 53,855 posts
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    Technically you're not copying anything... therefore no copyright infringement. With streamed stuff anyway.
  • Dirtbox 24 Jan 2012 19:04:14 77,480 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    So, it's ok to get child porn or no?
    Yeah, it's fine. Go crazy.

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  • Feanor 24 Jan 2012 19:41:50 14,063 posts
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    I wonder how the fat bastard ran a site like this from NZ anyway. I thought our broadband internet was awful. Probably should have picked someplace that didn't have an extradition treaty with the yanks.
  • Rhythm 24 Jan 2012 21:17:53 2,471 posts
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    Chopsen wrote:
    I've got this vague idea that just downloading pirated stuff is not actually illegal. Using P2P is illegal because you are by design also uploading at the same time (hence court cases where "mum of 3 gets sued for 10k for downloading Katy Perry" etc), and that means you're distributing and that definately is illegal.#

    If just downloading was illegal, you'd break the law just by watching youtube most of the time.

    ianal etc
    Isn't it more the case that it is illegal but the "value" assigned to someone watching one unpaid-for copy of KungFu Panda doesn't warrant anyone pursuing the issue? P2P makes it easier for prosecutors to make a case as you're "making the content available for others".
  • Lukey__b 24 Jan 2012 21:23:15 3,725 posts
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    I think it's definitely legal to view a stream. It's the uploader/streamer that is breaking the law, just as Chopsen says.

    I guess it's kind of like a pub putting the football on without the right paper work (they need some sort of agreement to show it I think) - the viewer isn't doing anything wrong, it's guy showing it.

    'Sup, what's guanine?

  • Chopsen 24 Jan 2012 21:47:06 15,735 posts
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    @Rhythm

    Probably. What actually gets prosecuted (and what is widely regarded as being "wrong") doesn't always fit with the letter of the law anyway. In the UK it's still technically illegal to copy songs from a CD to your MP3 player, even for personal use. This is one of many reasons there copyright law's being reformed in the UK - it no longer fits with what most people are doing or expect.

    Link

    Edited by Chopsen at 21:48:58 24-01-2012
  • Tom_Servo 30 Jan 2012 13:31:54 17,330 posts
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    Did you have legitimate stuff stored on Megaupload? Too bad.
  • woodnotes 30 Jan 2012 13:41:25 4,922 posts
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    Tom_Servo wrote:
    Other sites are blocking IPs from the US

    I haven't heard of most of these, so I don't know how significant it is. Still, if the real big ones (Rapidshare and Mediafire, I guess) start doing this too then it's job done for the American authorities, really.
    I didn't realise that kind of affiliate program existed. Makes perfect sense why it was targeted now.
  • Articulate-Troll 30 Jan 2012 13:51:58 3,104 posts
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    Mediafire's pretty good -- even lets you download multiple files simultaneously. Shame not many people seem to use it.
  • THFourteen 30 Jan 2012 14:13:37 32,883 posts
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    Tom_Servo wrote:
    Did you have legitimate stuff stored on Megaupload? Too bad.
    What kind of a moron relies on a cloud service that is totally out of their own realm of control as their ONLY storage for important business files and documents.

    If its that important back it up on an external hard drive which are (were) about 70 for 1.5-2tb space thesedays.
  • Load_2.0 15 Feb 2012 21:55:29 18,944 posts
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    Even cops are up for a bit of trolling...


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17039722
  • Deleted user 21 February 2012 11:02:05
    Rapidshare have now introduced a limit of 30kpbs a sec for free users which pretty much means they are out of the game.

    I found that MU and RS were the best service for UK users, the rest are just too slow to be considered, which means that is basically the end of this sort of thing.
  • merryterry 21 Feb 2012 15:55:00 6 posts
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    AnotherIdiot wrote:
    Rapidshare have now introduced a limit of 30kpbs a sec for free users which pretty much means they are out of the game.

    I found that MU and RS were the best service for UK users, the rest are just too slow to be considered, which means that is basically the end of this sort of thing.

    Well that's no surprise, since Megaupload got dragged in this whole filesharing and copyright infringing and whatever else they did mess the loads of people who used megaupload filesharing and other stuff are looking for some replacements.

    Hence probably the 30 seconds limit they introduced for Rapidshare.I suppose it's not even worth it to take a look into some other smaller sharing sites, who knows how long they'll last.

    But anyhow since we're talking about Megaupload, I was looking into some alternatives to it just the other day and came across some discussion on a sharing technology that'll be launched by audials.com.

    It's supposed to be a good alternative to megaupload and even to filesharing sites.

    Now that's all I've got on this whole audials file sharing thing, so I was wondering if you guys have got any idea what's it all about. Heard anything on this or it's just some bogus talk?
  • Rhythm 22 Feb 2012 09:36:27 2,471 posts
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    Didn't see this posted elsewhere on here but looks like The Pirate Bay may be up for the chop soon, no doubt leading the way for most if not all torrent/magnet sites to be blocked.

    Seems like the Great Firewall of China is about to get a British annex
  • Dirtbox 22 Feb 2012 09:39:59 77,480 posts
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    Shame to see things go that way, but it doesn't make the blindest bit of difference really, just don't use your ISP's DNS.

    Also you can download TPB in a 90mb file, which is pretty funny.

    There is a TPB thread btw. http://www.eurogamer.net/forum_thread_posts.php?thread_id=56756

    Edited by Dirtbox at 09:50:20 22-02-2012

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  • Rhythm 22 Feb 2012 10:08:44 2,471 posts
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    The specifics of TPB aside, this stands as more of a test case. If TPB can be blocked then so can other sources of casual piracy. The more determined out there will do it anyway, paying for newsgroup access and whatnot. The average torrent user isn't the kind of person that will install privacy guards so they're going to be unlikely to start arsing about with DNS and VPN tunnels
  • merryterry 22 Feb 2012 14:51:10 6 posts
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    Whaat?Not TPB as well..
  • merryterry 22 Feb 2012 14:58:28 6 posts
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    merryterry wrote:
    AnotherIdiot wrote:
    Rapidshare have now introduced a limit of 30kpbs a sec for free users which pretty much means they are out of the game.

    I found that MU and RS were the best service for UK users, the rest are just too slow to be considered, which means that is basically the end of this sort of thing.

    Well that's no surprise, since Megaupload got dragged in this whole filesharing and copyright infringing and whatever else they did mess the loads of people who used megaupload filesharing and other stuff are looking for some replacements.

    Hence probably the 30 seconds limit they introduced for Rapidshare.I suppose it's not even worth it to take a look into some other smaller sharing sites, who knows how long they'll last.

    But anyhow since we're talking about Megaupload, I was looking into some alternatives to it just the other day and came across some discussion on a sharing technology that'll be launched by audials.com.

    It's supposed to be a good alternative to megaupload and even to filesharing sites.

    Now that's all I've got on this whole audials file sharing thing, so I was wondering if you guys have got any idea what's it all about. Heard anything on this or it's just some bogus talk?

    Oh well, up until now looks like this is just some useless rant since I didn't really manage to dig up much on this.

    I mean I stumbled upon some audials.com community but that one looks nothing like your average file sharing site so suppose it's got nothing to do with this mysterious new filesharing audials technology.

    It just looks like some place for sharing playlists or something like that and there's nothing related to some cool new filesharing tech round there.


    Or at least I didn't manage to find anything.
  • Psychotext 22 Feb 2012 15:12:05 53,855 posts
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    Rhythm wrote:
    The average torrent user isn't the kind of person that will install privacy guards so they're going to be unlikely to start arsing about with DNS and VPN tunnels
    No, but make it hard enough and the software will start to come with all of those sort of things built in.
  • Dirtbox 22 Mar 2012 21:07:17 77,480 posts
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    MU's 25 petabyte host is getting shafted

    They should sue the MPAA.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 21:08:08 22-03-2012

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