I barely used shotgun assault troops on Normal but now I'm on Classic I'm finding running right up to aliens and shooting them pointblank in the face is both useful and satisfying.
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faux_carnation 7,716 posts
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krushing 761 posts
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Registered 5 years agoNot to mention the magic of the alloy cannon. -
LeoliansBro 35,884 posts
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Registered 7 years agoGot the poison achievement! And Xavier! Only four more to go to get 1,000G!
(two of those are completing the game on impossible and winning from all five starting locations but STILL).LB, you really are a massive geek.
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Bremenacht 11,696 posts
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Registered 6 years agoBloody hell. That's good going. I don't think I'll be going for the 1000G - I really ought to play something else. At least until some interesting DLC comes along.
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Telepathic.Geometry 10,337 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI've stopped playing XCOM for now, as I don't have the time to really put some thought into my strategies and eat the failure of an ironman playthrough. I think I'm gonna pop in tonight though and get the all girls and poison trophy. Already got the Xavier one. Then commanded the fucker to rift himself. Very satisfying...PSN Barrysama
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Bremenacht 11,696 posts
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Bremenacht 11,696 posts
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LeoliansBro 35,884 posts
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Registered 7 years agoYeah my view is that it doesn't spoil anything to look up the secret achievements once you've completed the game, and some you'd never get by chance (eg the poison one).LB, you really are a massive geek.
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robc84 195 posts
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Registered 9 months agoDoes anyone know if it is possible to see sectoid commanders after you have 'unlocked' ethereals?
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faux_carnation 7,716 posts
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Registered 8 years agoGah. Getting through Classic is like wading through treacle. How on earth can anyone even play Impossible, let alone win at it? -
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IJ 630 posts
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Registered 11 years agoJust completed my first game, normal ironman. Fantastic game, great to have something a little different on a console. I played it constantly for a week or so up to just before the final mission and then did get a little bored. Came back to complete it last night.
I wish it was actually a shorter game so I could replay it several times with different tactics, there are a lot of different ways to go about playing this game, but at 25-30 hours per playthrough it doesn't really lend itself to replays.
The DLC is out, anyone got any reviews of it?
Another +1 for squadsight and inthezone. On the final mission two cyberdisks arrived, my sniper took out both drones around the first disk (there is always a 100% chance of hitting those with my sniper so no surprise), then she critical'ed the disk to kill it, she then killed both drones on the second disk and finished up by taking 10 or so damage off the second disk. Absolutely lethal. -
Commander Keen 657 posts
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Registered 10 years agoSo, out of interest, now we've all played this for a while and are generally quite positive about it, how do we all feel it a) compares to the original and b) what features, if any, you'd like to see added?
For me, the obvious ones would be:
More maps / randomly generated ability
A more diverse tech tree
A greater "business" element - XCOM Apocalypse had this down pat!
A touch more detail with the Psi / mind-control stuff
The latter especially rankles on a nit-picky level. If you MC someone and they get shot, *your* morale goes down for some reason. Not being funny, but I'd be quite pleased that the enemy had wasted their ammo taking out one of their own. Also, why can't you just get them to shoot themselves in the face? Surely that's what we'd all do on the "last turn" of MC?
As for a comparison to the original, I think it stands up well, albeit the original broke new ground and had more diversity in its' gameplay.
Some of that was superficial as has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread (where you can place your base) but some of it was core - your own base getting attacked, the greater emphasis on research and production for instance meant that you had to play that game in a very different way and so was less "arcadey" than this version. -
Bremenacht 11,696 posts
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Yes, but not if you're playing NI. I saw just the one on NI, and shot the bugger. Plenty of them on CI.
Does anyone know if it is possible to see sectoid commanders after you have 'unlocked' ethereals?
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Mr_Sleep 13,714 posts
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Registered 11 years agoOne of the things I think they should have done is added more end game content. Once the tech tree has been seen through to the end there is not a great deal to do with it as you've pretty much seen everything by that point. -
krushing 761 posts
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Registered 5 years agoBremenacht wrote:
I saw plenty on NI, but can't really remember whether or not after the first appearance of the latter. I'm pretty sure afterwards as well.robc84 wrote:
Yes, but not if you're playing NI. I saw just the one on NI, and shot the bugger. Plenty of them on CI.
Does anyone know if it is possible to see sectoid commanders after you have 'unlocked' ethereals?
Its the last interrogation I need and I guess the last research project, but I think I've only ever seen 2 of them!! -
Mr_Sleep 13,714 posts
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Registered 11 years agoJust finished a classic play through. What a game, had about the same trouble with the last mission as I did on normal. Although, obviously I had learned that you should just aim for the leader as that puts an end to things without having to take out the others.
I'm resisting the temptation to start a normal ironman game, in fact I've deleted xcom from my steam games' list, I just have too much else to play. -
robc84 195 posts
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Registered 9 months agokrushing wrote:
To be honest I'm getting a bit bored of waiting for one to show up now. The months are just going by... shoot down UFO, Terror Mission, Council request, rinse repeat. It's ruining my enthuiasm for the game.Bremenacht wrote:
I saw plenty on NI, but can't really remember whether or not after the first appearance of the latter. I'm pretty sure afterwards as well.robc84 wrote:
Yes, but not if you're playing NI. I saw just the one on NI, and shot the bugger. Plenty of them on CI.
Does anyone know if it is possible to see sectoid commanders after you have 'unlocked' ethereals?
Its the last interrogation I need and I guess the last research project, but I think I've only ever seen 2 of them!!
I think I'll just go to the end game now and try again on a CI runthrough in the new year.
Its just frustrating that you get such a small window to capture them, and also that you dont know that you have such a small window! If I'd known I would have gone for the capture when I saw the bugger.
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Bremenacht 11,696 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI did the same thing on NI, while building up the Psi troops. It's definitely a lull in the game, although probably a welcome one, when you're playing Ironman - if you balls up the endgame, you have a chance to rebuild and try again.
I gave up waiting for another SC and pushed the button as soon as I felt I had enough Psi troops.
You'll run into the same situation on a CI runthrough though! I blew my chance of collecting a Sectoid early on, because of the impact of loosing squad members, so now I'm in the same situation. -
robc84 195 posts
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Registered 9 months agoI think I'm ready for the end game. I think I could put out 2 squads of Cololnels, and I have a few PSI troops.
Hopefully I have enough. I'm hoping if I just take it nice and slow I should be ok!
TBH, I panicked when I saw the sectiod commander as I'd never been mind controlled before, so I just killed it ASAP! -
IJ 630 posts
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faux_carnation 7,716 posts
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Registered 8 years agoI don't understand how it would be possible to play this on Ironman. Sometimes things happen which are just so blatantly unfair and unforseeable that if they happened in an Ironman game I know I'd just give up in frustration.
Case in point: My squad were standing perfectly still, half overwatching, half reloading, when out of nowhere 2 Cyberdiscs and 6 Chrysalids appear without warning. There is literally nothing I can do about it. Obviously, everybody dies. If I were playing Ironmanm my game would now be over, through no fault of my own. -
Bremenacht 11,696 posts
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Registered 6 years agoYou would have given up. And restarted, and given up, and restarted...
There comes a tipping point where you start to cope with the grenades and plasma of outrageous random number generation and begin to fight back - increasing the odds on your success.
The teleporting business is always annoying though. The domino effect (one clutch of aliens appearing after another) I can understand. I think it's to do with sound. The teleporting is 'a bit cheaty', to quote someone else. -
GloatingSwine 2,668 posts
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Registered 6 years agoCommander Keen wrote:
Larger maps with more opportunities for flanking. Flanking was built up to be a big deal in the game because of the hit/crit bonuses it offers, but with the maps being small, and the enemies getting their free move when you open the monster closet, there's a strong incentive not to try to flank, because doing so will frequently mean opening another monster closet and making your situation worse, frequently ending up with you being the flanked one.
So, out of interest, now we've all played this for a while and are generally quite positive about it, how do we all feel it a) compares to the original and b) what features, if any, you'd like to see added?
Make cover more diverse and useful. Anything that currently counts as "heavy" cover should block fire completely, rather than being a -40% shot.
Also, make suppression worth doing. Suppressing fire should cut the target's action pool down so that they have one action in their next turn and can only use it to move or get their head down, as it is the accuracy penalty is insignificant so why would you do it when you could shoot the guy dead?
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oldschoolsoviet 4,927 posts
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Registered 7 years agoFiring through this, and really enjoying it.
Not as much as my beloved BLiTZ-engined Valkyria, but it's got more tension, atmosphere, up-against-it oppression. You never have enough of what you need, and your constant reliance on luck is bloody agonising.
Delightful moment rescuing a VIP from a limo/car/Thin Man strewn underpass earlier, within 2 turns I'd charged an Assault guy in, activating the VIP, and got both the hell out with one opportunistic kill.
The next 7 kills came from a Heavy's single rocket, detonating cars galore, and the Thin Men along with them.
Damn the resources, it was worth it !
/can see it all ending in tearsYou can read this ? You've helped ruin the place.
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boo 10,798 posts
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Registered 10 years agoIt's probably already been asked, but 94 pages is a lot to plough through.
PS3 or 360? Is one regarded as superior to the other, or is it just down to joypad preference?
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LeoliansBro 35,884 posts
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Registered 7 years agoThe important thing is that you get it.gif)
LB, you really are a massive geek.
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