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  • Tom_Servo 15 Apr 2012 21:35:31 13,223 posts
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    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/559430_344557578935245_114682465256092_982172_755117408_n.jpg

    Interesting.
  • kalel 15 Apr 2012 21:38:08 76,470 posts
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    That's a funny angle, but even there it's not all the ball over all the line.

    ITV did the hawkeye thing on it, and it was nowhere near. None of the ball was even within inches of the line.
  • SolidSCB 15 Apr 2012 21:38:35 4,532 posts
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    Sorry I got that wrong, I didn't mean ball, I meant ballbag. If you watch the replay John Terry clearly crosses the goal line.
  • Aargh. 15 Apr 2012 21:41:34 11,171 posts
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    From that still the ball could be almost on the line or a foot away. Without any useful shadows or being directly side on it's impossible to see.

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  • Trowel 15 Apr 2012 21:44:09 15,028 posts
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    The one small thing I was glad of yesterday was that we at least lost without the usual derby day controversy. Feel for Spurs, mostly because of the effect it would have had on the players leading to the skewed scoreline, which now goes down in plastic history.
  • Trowel 15 Apr 2012 21:46:41 15,028 posts
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    Aargh. wrote:
    From that still the ball could be almost on the line or a foot away. Without any useful shadows or being directly side on it's impossible to see.
    Maybe Chelsea goals are awarded like spot the ball - it's not about where the ball actually is, it's about where a panel of Chelsea players say it is.
  • Aargh. 15 Apr 2012 21:48:33 11,171 posts
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    John Terry must have been crying inside, being so close to black people and not being able to do anything to hurt them.

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  • roz123 15 Apr 2012 21:58:50 6,624 posts
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    Trowel wrote:
    The one small thing I was glad of yesterday was that we at least lost without the usual derby day controversy. Feel for Spurs, mostly because of the effect it would have had on the players leading to the skewed scoreline, which now goes down in plastic history.
    Meh it's not even Di Matteos biggest score against Spurs.

    Nice to see Lampard get a goal from long distance, it's been a while.
  • LionheartDJH 15 Apr 2012 23:04:24 18,573 posts
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    Trowel wrote:
    The one small thing I was glad of yesterday was that we at least lost without the usual derby day controversy.
    I was also glad to see a game involving us being free of controversy. No usual red card either.

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  • roz123 15 Apr 2012 23:07:00 6,624 posts
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    Tom_Servo wrote:
    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/559430_344557578935245_114682465256092_982172_755117408_n.jpg

    Interesting.
    From Matas angle he might have thought that went in
  • Fydria 15 Apr 2012 23:27:19 477 posts
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    What happened to all this pre-match talk of the FA Cup not mattering? ;)

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  • Fozzie_bear 16 Apr 2012 00:12:24 15,167 posts
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    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    Wind up merchant succeeds in winding someone up, and claims their prize in style. Nice.
    Whatever. In your head anyone who comes against you is a windup merchant. I even called them the "chelsea coonts" just to appease you, my lord.

    You clearly claimed it WAS their fault then tried to claim its equally there's because they conned the ref.

    But fact is, it's 100% the ref fault. Claiming it's like diving is absurd. The simple fact is the ref didn't see the ball cross the line, and it was impossible to see it, and the linesman didn't even support him.

    He guessed, and he shouldn't have. Regardless of whether the chelsea players called for a goal, he should never have made that call. Yes the chelsea players are coonts, surprise surprise. It is still 100% the refs faults.

    Can you read that, understand that, AND try not to be condescending and insulting? And accept your initial point was wrong, no matter how you try and spin it to save face?
    It's always the ref's fault. It's the only reason spurs never beat utd. It's up to 25 times in a row now that the ref has conned them.

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  • Fozzie_bear 16 Apr 2012 00:15:53 15,167 posts
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    Man for man, spurs are better than man yet wigan have a better win ratio against them than spurs. And wolves. And blackburn. And norwich. And burnley. Explain that.

    It's because refs favour the big teams. Nothing else makes sense.

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  • convz 16 Apr 2012 00:19:34 208 posts
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    Wow, didn't expect that result at all - seems like we got very lucky with the second goal, to be honest we were sat almost in line with the goal and none of us thought it was in :s

    Amazing game though, amazing amosphere, and for Chelsea a truly amazing (if somewhat flattering) result. Terrible saying, but I have to say I'm still buzzing!
  • convz 16 Apr 2012 00:26:41 208 posts
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    I haven't seen the game yet (saving it for tomorrow evening) but from this angle it does look in - https://mobile.twitter.com/PwnC0cktaiL/status/191618026766991361?photo=1

    But the linesman didn't flag for it, so how could the ref have given it? Like I said everyone around me was (pleasantly) surprised when he gave it, and you know what football fans are like - usually claiming any decision no matter how tenuous
  • Fozzie_bear 16 Apr 2012 00:30:12 15,167 posts
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    Not seen the replays yet, but it sounds like a terrible decision of the ref to award chelsea 5 goals as a result of that incident. I'm assuming that that goal counted 5 times otherwise spurs fans would surely look a bit silly if they said that was the only reason they lost.

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  • convz 16 Apr 2012 00:35:45 208 posts
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    The thing is (and the more I read/see, the more I think it actually was over after all) that I don't beleive it killed Spurs off at all, if anything they were looking quiet in the second half and sprung into life, as did their fans. Sure it didn't help, and if indeed it wasn't over then it's a huge mistake by the ref as he shouldn't have given it unless he was 100%, but it really didn't kill spurs off IMO - was very, very nervy at 2-1

    Edited by convz at 00:40:34 16-04-2012
  • Fozzie_bear 16 Apr 2012 00:39:29 15,167 posts
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    Yeah, but it was the ref's fault that they collapsed and conceded another 3 goals later on, wasn't it?

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  • convz 16 Apr 2012 00:43:25 208 posts
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    Nope, I certainly see your point - although momentum can have a great impact on a match I guess... for both the players and the fans. In this case though it genuinely did seem to act as a kick up the backside for Spurs though, but at 3-1 I guess it put the game behind them and that's when they capitulated
  • Fozzie_bear 16 Apr 2012 00:44:41 15,167 posts
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    Trust me, that'll be the only reason. It happened a few years ago in the league. Spurs 2 up against utd at half time. Second half utd get a dodgy penalty (as only utd do) and it was such a bad decision that spurs inevitably conceded another four afterwards which were all a result of the bad penalty decision as opposed to spurs just being a shit football team.

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  • dsmx 16 Apr 2012 00:50:40 6,861 posts
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    OR it could be that spurs just collapse under any pressure at all like they do every seasons when it comes to crunch time.

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  • ILoveThrashMetal 16 Apr 2012 00:52:13 300 posts
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    Fozzie_bear wrote:
    Trust me, that'll be the only reason. It happened a few years ago in the league. Spurs 2 up against utd at half time. Second half utd get a dodgy penalty (as only utd do) and it was such a bad decision that spurs inevitably conceded another four afterwards which were all a result of the bad penalty decision as opposed to spurs just being a shit football team.
    I think that was when hoddle was in charge.I was there.utd got the hair dryer treatment at half time and banged 4 or 5 past us in the second half.they played some superb football,and in my many years of going was the only time the opposition got applauded off at full time by the home fans.

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  • Fozzie_bear 16 Apr 2012 01:03:07 15,167 posts
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    convz wrote:
    Nope, I certainly see your point - although momentum can have a great impact on a match I guess... for both the players and the fans. In this case though it genuinely did seem to act as a kick up the backside for Spurs though, but at 3-1 I guess it put the game behind them and that's when they capitulated
    Oh, god bless you for being so lovely. I really don't have a point to make at all. I'm just trolling the bloodu idiots who inhabit the footy threads on here.

    You're quite right about momentum of course and are obviously one of the few posters on here able to talk about football here reasonably whilst looking at both sides of an argument in a fair and rational manner. God knows I can't do it. I just read the reams of bullshit from halfwits seeking to justify the latest atrocious performance from their atrocious team (generally spurs amd liverpool fans, though not exclusively) and then call them twats.

    I'm a utd fan and part of me hopes that city win the league for no reason other than crispy is about the best poster on the footy threads here and I'd like to see him take his team winning with the customary good grace / utter disbelief that's become his hallmark this last 3 years. And that bit ain't sarcastic, by the way.

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  • reddevil93 16 Apr 2012 01:03:58 10,720 posts
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    ILoveThrashMetal wrote:
    Fozzie_bear wrote:
    Trust me, that'll be the only reason. It happened a few years ago in the league. Spurs 2 up against utd at half time. Second half utd get a dodgy penalty (as only utd do) and it was such a bad decision that spurs inevitably conceded another four afterwards which were all a result of the bad penalty decision as opposed to spurs just being a shit football team.
    I think that was when hoddle was in charge.I was there.utd got the hair dryer treatment at half time and banged 4 or 5 past us in the second half.they played some superb football,and in my many years of going was the only time the opposition got applauded off at full time by the home fans.
    Na, that was when we came back from 3 down to win 5-3 around 10 years ago, the one Fozzie's on about is the 5-2 when Carrick got awarded a soft penalty, Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov and Ronaldo ran riot second half.

  • Fozzie_bear 16 Apr 2012 01:05:53 15,167 posts
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    And it was a "soft" bloody penalty!

    I should know. I've seen enough of them :D

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  • Fozzie_bear 16 Apr 2012 01:07:07 15,167 posts
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    Quality wikipediaing there though reddevil!

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  • reddevil93 16 Apr 2012 01:09:15 10,720 posts
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    Have a good memory for football, shit for other stuff. Can remember random scorers from random games for god knows what reason

  • Fozzie_bear 16 Apr 2012 01:13:47 15,167 posts
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    Bollocks. You wiki'd it and there's no denying it!

    I thought that they were 3 up but changed my post after a quick check.

    Had to check how long it was since spurs beat utd too for an earlier post but, to be fair, I am getting quite old now so nobody can blame me for not being able to remember the last time spurs actually won against utd. Didn't google match reports for every single game, but I'm assuming that the ref was to blame for every single one of spurs' dismal performances over the last ten years or so.

    Edited by Fozzie_bear at 01:14:51 16-04-2012

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  • FWB 16 Apr 2012 01:16:43 39,097 posts
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    If my team came back from 3-0 to win, I sure as hell would remember that game inside out. Hell, I'd remember if we won 5-2. But then we can't score more than one.
  • reddevil93 16 Apr 2012 01:18:08 10,720 posts
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    Really and truely didn't, can rattle off scores from the last 3 or 4 seasons, especially great comebacks like them. But anyway, no way of proving to you so all semantics really. :p

    That peno's the only bad one I can remember the last few years, if you discount Gomes' brain-fart for Nani's goal a while ago. :D

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