RIP Margaret Thatcher Page 2

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  • Tom_Servo 27 Nov 2011 23:18:39 17,544 posts
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    A lot of people on here are in their late 20s-early 30s, some a bit older.
  • localnotail 27 Nov 2011 23:21:12 23,093 posts
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    area881 wrote:
    Margaret Thatcher was the greatest prime minister of the 20th century.
    Why do you think this?

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • Syrette 27 Nov 2011 23:24:38 43,301 posts
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    Man, I still would.

  • Khanivor 27 Nov 2011 23:27:31 40,542 posts
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    Dead man walking, we have a dead man walking.
  • Deleted user 27 November 2011 23:35:38
    'Studying the 80s' and 'living in the 80s' are two different things, evidently.
  • elstoof 27 Nov 2011 23:38:10 7,003 posts
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    Tom_Servo wrote:
    A lot of people on here are in their late 20s-early 30s, some a bit older.
    That's what I had thought - ill be 30 next year and I don't bloody remember the thatcher years. Christ, I was 8 when she left office.
  • disusedgenius 27 Nov 2011 23:39:21 5,284 posts
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    Plenty old enough to have had to live with the fallout of it all though.
  • Khanivor 27 Nov 2011 23:43:42 40,542 posts
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    Thatcher was the fallout from the muppets that came before her. And so on, and so forth. So, really, it's all Edward I's fucking fault.
  • elstoof 27 Nov 2011 23:44:16 7,003 posts
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    That's a fair point. There's no reference point for me though, I don't know if things were better before. I'd be inclined to think they're all as bad as the rest when they get their hands on some power - just to be clear I'm not pro thatcher by any means. I still got my milk in primary school though for some reason.
  • disusedgenius 27 Nov 2011 23:48:03 5,284 posts
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    Khanivor wrote:
    Thatcher was the fallout from the muppets that came before her. And so on, and so forth. So, really, it's all Edward I's fucking fault.
    Now there's a man who knew how to deal with the Northerners...
  • Nexus_6 28 Nov 2011 01:02:39 3,876 posts
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    Lol, reminded me of the great t shirt available to buy in a pub I walk past often. Simple black cotton short with the words 'When Thatcher Dies: Rot In Hell Thatcher'

    Classic!
  • Retroid Moderator 28 Nov 2011 02:32:11 44,512 posts
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    area881 wrote:
    Margaret Thatcher was the greatest prime minister of the 20th century.
    You clearly have no idea.
    area881 wrote:
    All the weak companies that were being subsidised by the goverment-
    ... were sold to business cronies and, at least in the case of the railways, continued being subsidised with huge amounts of cash but ran for huge profit. A huge, thundering mess of a clusterfuck.

    In the specific case of BT they pretty much flogged off a massive monopoly with a licence to print cash. They didn't have effective competition for years.
  • Fab4 28 Nov 2011 07:49:00 5,994 posts
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    Only the good die young...how old is the spiteful bitch now?
  • elstoof 28 Nov 2011 08:22:42 7,003 posts
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    There was also the 3 day week and the winter of discontent in the years before. They're all out to fuck us basically.
  • Dougs 28 Nov 2011 08:42:05 67,191 posts
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    Suggest you don't voice these feelings in certain towns and villages. Some of them will never recover.

    I like the idea that buying your council house was a roaring success too. In, part, it's Fucked over a generation from ever being able to own their own home.
  • lucky_jim 28 Nov 2011 08:42:55 5,285 posts
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    Damn it, I was about to start singing "the witch is dead" whilst dancing a lil jig. That was a cruel trick.

    Edit: And having grown up in a very poor family in the 80s, I think it's best I stay out of the "serious" part of this conversation or else I'm liable to blow a fuse. Evil bitch, and I genuinely will jump for joy when she dies.

    Edited by lucky_jim at 08:44:39 28-11-2011
  • Fab4 28 Nov 2011 08:53:52 5,994 posts
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    4 words...Poll Tax Trial Scotland
  • bitch_tits_zero_nine 28 Nov 2011 09:13:23 6,654 posts
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    Northern Ireland, she was a bull in a china shop.
  • DUFFMAN5 28 Nov 2011 09:15:46 14,588 posts
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    area881 wrote:
    She single handedly took the country out of one of the worst recessions ever which Labour caused with their riduclous polices at the time. She invented privitisation, allowing people to buy their council houses, BT to actually get a phone in to people's houses, it used to take them 6 months or longer to get someone connected. All the weak companies that were being subsidised by the goverment collapsed and better ones took there place.

    I had to study politics at A level and the 80's was the most exciting period to study.
    ...oh my.

    "Duffman the grey is thrusting in the direction of the problem! Oh, yeah!"

  • Fab4 28 Nov 2011 09:17:40 5,994 posts
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    bitch_tits_zero_nine wrote:
    Northern Ireland, she was a bull in a china shop.
    Indeed. That was the last time I was arrested (never charged though :p)...outside Maryfield. Protesting at the Anglo-Irish agreement :)

    Edit: Btw, maybe if we keep this thread active, the universe will answer our calls :D

    Edited by Fab4 at 09:19:06 28-11-2011
  • mcmonkeyplc 28 Nov 2011 09:43:53 39,440 posts
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    She was a relentless heartless cow BUT what she did needed to be done eventually. It could've been done a little less brutally but that might have made the pain last longer.

    So yes she is a heartless bitch, but we needed that and that's what we got.

    This current government is a little like that, but thankfully with a tiny bit of restrain thanks to the Lib Dems destroying themselves.

    I said tiny bit!

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Dougs 28 Nov 2011 09:51:30 67,191 posts
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    Some things needed to be done. But was done in such a way that it destroyed communities and offered those affected absolutely nothing and no hope. Replacement jobs for thousands don't appear overnight in small towns, but that's what was kind of expected. Little re-training, incentives or anything.
  • elstoof 28 Nov 2011 09:58:52 7,003 posts
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    Hmm don't know about doing what "needed to be done". Something needed to be done, but not necessarily what was decided. Taking the railways, they were built and maintained privately for about 120 years and were only nationalised because social change and 2 wars had changed the playing field and the main companies had practically merged anyway. Nationalisation wasn't particularly successful either with huge closures and costs to run a system when there were fewer passenger than there are now so it's not a stretch to move it back to the private sector and remove the problem, though it's debatable it was the right thing to do and it was handled very badly and has continued to by successive governments - all you have to do is look at France's rail system to see how a nationalised rail network can work well.
  • Dougs 28 Nov 2011 10:01:09 67,191 posts
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    Sure mcm was really referring to the miners as much as anything.
  • disusedgenius 28 Nov 2011 10:01:43 5,284 posts
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    The Rail Network thing was fucked over on purpose anyway. Off record Tebbit himself has said that they deliberately broke it up so badly with the intention that it could never be put back together again. Quite sums up the mentality tbh.
  • mcmonkeyplc 28 Nov 2011 10:05:21 39,440 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Sure mcm was really referring to the miners as much as anything.
    Yup, the railways are pretty much meaningless compared to what she did to the miners/ nationalised manufacturing companies.

    Also, the railways ARE working better now, they just cost a shitload more

    :(

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • disusedgenius 28 Nov 2011 10:10:24 5,284 posts
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    Well, only because they effectively re-nationalised most of it.

    Edited by disusedgenius at 10:10:52 28-11-2011
  • bitch_tits_zero_nine 28 Nov 2011 10:21:48 6,654 posts
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    You can gauge her moral compass from her demeanour and how she deals with situations and people.

    Granted that isn't necessarily conducive to a good leader, but to my mind she was like a perfect storm of reasons why some people dislike the English.

    Speaking as an Englishman, watching footage of her on the history channel, I'm embarrassed by her pompous empire loving rhetoric.
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