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  • morriss 31 Jul 2013 00:09:06 71,284 posts
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    mcmothercruncher wrote:
    cubbymoore wrote:
    ronuds wrote:
    Saw this on GAF (yes, I feel slimy):

    Rumour: MS to reintroduce XBOX ONE
    May as well just call it the Xbox TWO.
    XTwo(nk)?


    YES I EXPECT YOU TO SMILE MORRISS!
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  • RightBean 31 Jul 2013 00:17:03 698 posts
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    They will still get slated ,it will be another shitfest, just like all the bad press EG gave them after their E3 2005, which would be hard to beat, and nobody has done a better conference or console upgrade and introduction since then. But I guess the american sites will be cool with it, they should all be grateful the extra hits MS will be giving them really.
  • sanctusmortis 31 Jul 2013 00:30:29 9,898 posts
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    To be fair, they have changed so much of how it works since the introduction they could probably do with a televised "reboot". It should've never come to this.
  • b0rk 31 Jul 2013 00:36:11 3,602 posts
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    They should just drop the kinect bullshit and put it out at the same price as the PS4.

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  • mikew1985 31 Jul 2013 00:38:45 13,446 posts
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    I really hope they don't drop kinect.

    I doubt they will but it would make the two consoles almost indistinguishable
  • b0rk 31 Jul 2013 01:01:52 3,602 posts
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    but think of all those exclusives

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  • b0rk 31 Jul 2013 01:02:09 3,602 posts
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    like Halo and Forza

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  • b0rk 31 Jul 2013 01:02:28 3,602 posts
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    and Gears of War

    oh and that multiplayer only Call of Duty with robots

    Edited by B0rked_Gamer at 01:04:09 31-07-2013

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  • Deleted user 31 July 2013 01:09:40
    @sanctusmortis

    I'm not so sure. No one does rapid consumer feedback like Microsoft. Who else would set out to waste 10s or 100millions of dollars with all the wrong choices to knowingly alienate everyone to find out exactly what customers wanted right now? No one else can afford that strategy and yet Microsoft have been using it for two decades very effectively. The problem they have with RT tablets and Windows phone is that their isn't enough wrong choices to make or customers to give them feedback of X1 quality.
  • b0rk 31 Jul 2013 01:19:58 3,602 posts
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  • sanctusmortis 31 Jul 2013 01:40:05 9,898 posts
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    @vizzini true, but it'd be crazy to have gone through all of that just to get customer feedback.
  • Deleted user 31 July 2013 01:51:03
    @PenguinJim

    Not quite the same thing though, reworking parts from unsold stock that has been returned and not yet written down, isn't quite the same as literally recycling second hand components. I'm not sure how you expect those millions of YLOD systems to get back to Sony. Even if people did pay the repair fee, the blu-ray would still go back to the customer when repaired, otherwise the console gets thrown in the bin.

    It is equally strange you'd raise the YLOD issue, as the PS3 failure rate is at a level acceptable of consumer electronics devices (
  • Psychotext 31 Jul 2013 01:55:09 56,967 posts
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    I see vizzini is still very much true to form.

    /backs slowly away, avoiding any sudden movements
  • b0rk 31 Jul 2013 01:56:47 3,602 posts
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    /shoves Psychotext back into thread

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  • Psychotext 31 Jul 2013 02:08:58 56,967 posts
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    B0rked_Gamer wrote:
    /shoves Psychotext back into thread
    OH GOD, NO, PLEASE!
  • ubergine 31 Jul 2013 02:57:34 3,676 posts
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    I doubt they'd remove Kinect until well after launch. They will sell out at launch. If they need to boost sales later, a cheaper, Kinect-free kit would do it.

    The concept that Super Kinect will be integral to any core game on the thing is just ridiculous. Any dev working on it should have their game able to work Kinect free simply to deal with an expected failure rate, let alone people who will throw a blanket over the thing.

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  • spindizzy 31 Jul 2013 06:26:57 6,786 posts
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    vizzini wrote:
    I am still hopeful that this new plan will result in them withdrawing kinect 2.0. If they can't lower the console price but did want to replace kinect with an RT tablet running a new specific X1 os for two screen gaming, I see that as quite a decent value propositions.
    You honestly think that they'd remove the ONLY thing which makes their console stand out from the PS4, which is (slightly) more powerful? Never going to happen. And as for quickly replacing it with a Surface RT... how long do you think it'd take them to knock up a X1 OS for it? How much do you think that would cost? No way.


    Thinking more about kinect 2.0, I wonder if the reason for it being mandatory is partly to do with kinect 1.0 stock possibly being shipped to stores on sale or return terms. Fundamentally Kinect 1.0 operates more like the claims of kinect 2.0 when connected to a PC (with ample USB 3.0 bandwidth and processing time), so I'll be shocked if kinect 2.0 isn't just a recycle of kinect 1.0 hardware with a new plastic wide angle lens, a new chip on the PCB and a new plastic housing.
    That makes about as much sense as saying the XBone hardware is basically a recycle of the 360, and they're pushing it to use up 360 stock. Of course they probably haven't changed absolutely everything, but the things that have changed will be the expensive items: it's still a completely new device.

    Edited by spindizzy at 06:44:05 31-07-2013
  • X201 31 Jul 2013 06:35:14 16,355 posts
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    vizzini wrote:
    @PenguinJim

    I agree about the warrant issue however, even if it isn't a design flaw, a console should have to be built to last 3years minimum.
    Regarding warraties, both of you are falling into the trap that all electronics companies an stores want you to believe.

    The manufacturer warranty is just a distraction.
    Your contract is with the store that you bought it from, it is the store's job to get it fixed for you, no matter how much they try and deny it, and attempt to palm you off onto the manufacturer.

    Under European law you have a 6 year warranty on all products. Your rights under this weaken over time to allow for normal wear and tear, but they still give you 6 years cover. It is the store's legal responsibility to sort your problem, read up on your rights and stand your ground.
  • X201 31 Jul 2013 06:48:21 16,355 posts
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    Bog off to AsianGamer you bloody interloper ;-)

    Theaten to drop your trousers in the shop or some such tactic. Top tip: Don't do this on a cold day.
  • mothercruncher 31 Jul 2013 07:25:19 9,221 posts
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    For what it's worth, that, Sir, was a work of genius.
  • King_Edward 31 Jul 2013 07:36:49 11,471 posts
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    Are you telling me now that my refurb PS3 isn't "soldered" using space harvested mercury?
  • crashVoodoo 31 Jul 2013 10:30:27 4,185 posts
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    Does the kinect draw power from the Xbox meaning one cable or do it have its own separate plug?

    I'm about to mount my TV on the wall and hide all my gear through the wall under the stairs.  I need to know if need to wire in an additional plug socket behind the TV mount or not.

    a Nexus a day keeps the apple away

  • Dizzy 31 Jul 2013 10:37:07 2,868 posts
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    crashVoodoo wrote:
    Does the kinect draw power from the Xbox meaning one cable or do it have its own separate plug?

    I'm about to mount my TV on the wall and hide all my gear through the wall under the stairs.  I need to know if need to wire in an additional plug socket behind the TV mount or not.
    One cable, just like Kinect now.

    Edited by Dizzy at 10:37:22 31-07-2013
  • altitude2k 31 Jul 2013 10:44:43 5,088 posts
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    Dizzy wrote:
    crashVoodoo wrote:
    Does the kinect draw power from the Xbox meaning one cable or do it have its own separate plug?

    I'm about to mount my TV on the wall and hide all my gear through the wall under the stairs.  I need to know if need to wire in an additional plug socket behind the TV mount or not.
    One cable, just like Kinect now.
    Depends whether you have the slim or old 360.
  • Anthony_UK 31 Jul 2013 11:31:06 2,638 posts
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    I don't think they'll remove kinect other than an absolute last resort. One reason being they've most likely told developers currently making games that every console will have it, the other and probably more important as far as MS is concerned is that money they'd lose from the targeted advertising.

    They'd rather chew their right arm off than give up the ability to sell products to you based on what you enjoy and who's in your room at the time. Whether this is a good or bad thing I'm undecided, but paying the premium for it at launch is annoying. The fact there's no full proper kinect games at launch tells you that the main focus and purpose of kinect is elsewhere.
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