Paedogeddon - Jimmy Savile and other celebs Page 105

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  • kalel 4 Mar 2014 14:34:34 87,584 posts
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    Getting back to whether downloading images makes you indirectly responsible for the creation of them, for me the real point is that by downloading them, you perpetuate the culture. You demonstrate demand, and therefore you stimulate supply. It may not be as direct as you getting it directly from the person that made the file, but the whole reason people share them in the first place is because they know that others want the images. Otherwise they'd just keep them to themselves.
  • Dirtbox 4 Mar 2014 14:38:57 78,145 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    I have absolutely no idea how the underweb works, but I would assume there's a great level of recognition for those producing this stuff, even if it's not specific download numbers.

    It's like any kind of online community where content generation is needed to perpetuate it. Engaging with content goes hand in hand with producing your own and sharing it. Profiteering doesn't come into it.
    Assuming you don't mean the IRC network, it's basically websites that don't exist on regular DNS servers or search engines and are privately hosted.

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  • Dougs 4 Mar 2014 14:44:53 67,664 posts
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    jonvital wrote:
    @Dougs If you're going down that route then surely you have to include people who view terrorist execution vids etc.

    I just dont think that arguement holds up
    But viewing those isn't illegal, I don't think. Child sex abuse imagery is.

    Edited by Dougs at 14:45:06 04-03-2014
  • kalel 4 Mar 2014 15:09:56 87,584 posts
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    Er, no, torturing, mutilating and killing someone is illegal.

    Also viewing snuff videos is most certainly also illegal, which is a better point of comparison here. If the purpose of the torture was to create a video of it, then viewing of that material is also illegal.
  • Dougs 4 Mar 2014 15:21:12 67,664 posts
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    Yeah, that's a better comparison.

    There was the whole Facebook beheadings thing a while back, some arguing that they should be permitted by FB as it raises awareness etc.
  • Dirtbox 4 Mar 2014 15:32:56 78,145 posts
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    Raises awareness to the fact you no longer need that person on your friends list.

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  • Dougs 4 Mar 2014 16:07:07 67,664 posts
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    Heh, true enough. Freedom of expression and all that is the argument.
  • DaM 4 Mar 2014 16:18:49 13,139 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Raises awareness to the fact you no longer need that person on your friends list.
    Yup, beheadings or kittens/angels/repost if you hate cancer posts, all in the same book IMO.
  • mrpon 4 Mar 2014 18:00:12 28,893 posts
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    I saw a dehanding in the paper the other day, but the dehandee requested the punishment.

    Grey area?

    Give yourself 5 or gig, you're worth it.

  • brokenkey 4 Mar 2014 19:43:28 7,028 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Er, no, torturing, mutilating and killing someone is illegal.

    Also viewing snuff videos is most certainly also illegal, which is a better point of comparison here. If the purpose of the torture was to create a video of it, then viewing of that material is also illegal.
    It's only illegal if it's pornography, which it might be, if they can prove that it was made for the purposes of sexual fulfilment of the viewer - this is why a film like Irreversable is legal, but if you clipped the rape scene and posted it on iwanktorapevideos.com, it would be illegal to own.

    A more interesting way of looking at weirdness in the law:

    Killing someone is illegal. Filming it and viewing a video of a murder is not (see one-punch-kill man)

    Two consensual adults having a bit of rough hanky panky, not illegal. Filming it for their own consumption - illegal.

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  • Dirtbox 4 Mar 2014 21:21:46 78,145 posts
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  • Lukus 4 Mar 2014 22:56:57 19,104 posts
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    brokenkey wrote:
    kalel wrote:


    Two consensual adults having a bit of rough hanky panky, not illegal. Filming it for their own consumption - illegal.
    Really?

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  • Lukus 4 Mar 2014 23:04:42 19,104 posts
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    Fuck knows what I've done to the tags, but that's me asking really?

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  • Syrette 4 Mar 2014 23:06:06 43,446 posts
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    Is it really?

  • Dougs 5 Mar 2014 07:10:25 67,664 posts
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    I guess it would depend on what you mean by rough.
  • RyanDS 5 Mar 2014 07:28:13 9,355 posts
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    Lukus wrote:
    brokenkey wrote:
    kalel wrote:


    Two consensual adults having a bit of rough hanky panky, not illegal. Filming it for their own consumption - illegal.
    Really?
    Yep.

    Crazy.
  • sport 5 Mar 2014 08:37:17 12,711 posts
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    RyanDS wrote:
    Lukus wrote:
    brokenkey wrote:
    kalel wrote:


    Two consensual adults having a bit of rough hanky panky, not illegal. Filming it for their own consumption - illegal.
    Really?
    Yep.

    Crazy.
    Really?

    Edited by sport at 08:37:45 05-03-2014
  • kalel 5 Mar 2014 08:39:49 87,584 posts
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    I believe there's a bit of a fine line whether "rough hanky panky" is actually legal whether you're filming it or not. Wasn't there loads about this being debated when that whole Barrymore thing happened? I seem to remember him being accused of doing illegal things even if it was consensual.
  • Dougs 5 Mar 2014 08:41:54 67,664 posts
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    As with all legislation, the only true test is in court. I doubt there have been many BDSM cases where both filming it and the act as consensual. I do know that depictions of rape will be/have been made illegal, but that's not quite the same as BDSM.
  • RyanDS 5 Mar 2014 08:47:22 9,355 posts
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    Iirc it is along the lines of the act itself not the filming that is problematic. Essentially bdsm is a form of assault and even if you consent it still counts as assault.

    Stupid law.
  • mrpon 5 Mar 2014 08:48:04 28,893 posts
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    JULIET BRAVO!

    Give yourself 5 or gig, you're worth it.

  • Deckard1 5 Mar 2014 08:52:34 27,981 posts
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  • spindle9988 5 Mar 2014 09:38:20 3,587 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Yeah, that's a better comparison.

    There was the whole Facebook beheadings thing a while back, some arguing that they should be permitted by FB as it raises awareness etc.
    I saw one of these come up on my news feed. Couldnt believe it was being shown tbh. The whole thing of raising awareness is bollocks, if you read the comments on these posts they are just full of twats glorifdying it and laughing and joking. I saw one come up (which I thought was like a skateboarding fail video) with a father holding his dead son who had just been been brutally murdered. People were commenting on it like it was a comedy, I complained to fb straight away, disgusted
  • captain_markyboy 5 Mar 2014 09:49:56 250 posts
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  • captain_markyboy 5 Mar 2014 09:51:03 250 posts
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    Agreed. I had a look at that best gore site once.
    The comments on there are amazing, these freaks actually love it.
  • brokenkey 5 Mar 2014 11:33:10 7,028 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    As with all legislation, the only true test is in court. I doubt there have been many BDSM cases where both filming it and the act as consensual. I do know that depictions of rape will be/have been made illegal, but that's not quite the same as BDSM.
    The most recent high profile case featured a chappy called Simon Walsh ( #porntrial on twitter) who filmed gay fisting videos with his clients. The Extreme porn legislation has a thing about damage to anuses, and they decided to prosecute him. The jury decided he was not guilty (but the point being the CPS felt it had a case).

    New new anti-rape porn extension:
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/277731/fact-sheet-offence-extreme-pornography.pdf
    would covers role-play - so even if the video is topped and tailed by interviews with the actors, it might still be the subject of a prosecution if the CPS can't find anything else to stick on you.

    Myles Jackman on twitter is an interesting account to follow on this subject.

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  • DaM 5 Mar 2014 11:46:28 13,139 posts
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    Will someone think of the bicycles?!

    I always felt a bit sorry for this guy.
  • twelveways 5 Mar 2014 11:47:34 4,003 posts
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    What if I abused myself and filmed it?
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