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You might need to explain what info you're gleaning from that.
Guy asks if the leaked specs have changed Greenberg simply smiles which to me says the leaked specs are off.
Seems a tad reaching, I don't think they ever acknowledged the leaked spec anyway. Seems like a sly nod to say 'I can't talk about any of this'.
He has been giving a lot of teases the past week on twitter.
Fair enough, it just seems so vague that you could run in circles trying to read into it
It'll be good to finally get the details in a few weeks, and put an end to a lot of the rumours and speculation.
Ryze 3,429 posts
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Anyone that has been rocking a projector for gaming at any point will be all too aware of the day and night difference in picture quality/contrast/colour reproduction compared to any reasonable TV. The illumiroom would either need to severely handicap the TV and add lag to match the projectors image, use a £5k projector or...
More bollocks. Not sure which projectors you last tried out, but bollocks.
Anyway - Illumiroom looks like one of those features that 5% of the audience can beneift from, unless they were to offer their own cheap custom projection solution that sits on your coffee table. That's was what I expected they would want to offer - a device like a kinect that sits there beaming out images after Kinect's scanned the shape of your room so it knows where the corners and the TV are.
Regardless, here's Vizzini's PS4 price teardown and retail estimate for shits and giggles:
vizzini wrote:Edited by Ryze at 21:02:55 03-05-2013
I think the Cell 2 would actually have been the cheaper option even in R&D excluding the 2 or 4gbs of gddr5 it would also have need. I hope you are right that they can build the system and sell at a modest profit for ~£400, but pricing things up from my estimates I think it will be ~£500 + whatever shops think they can make.
large HDD ~£50,
faster Bluray ~£25,
motherboard with bluetooth/wifi/gigabit ethernet/hdmi licenses ~£50,
hybrid CPU/GPU ~£90,
8GBs of gddr5 ~£200,
Cost of case/PSEye/cables/control pad and other licenses for mp4/wmv/mp3/mpeg2 etc/shipping £50
Total guess ~£465
5% online retailer £490
Well consoles rarely cost the sum of their parts do they. Firstly R&D costs, marketing, logistics and a hell of a lot of other bits come into play in overheads. Then there are subsidies, Sony will cut a loss from the hardware if they expect to make £x back in games, licencing and PSN. Take WiiU for example, that requires 1 game sale to make a profit for Nintendo, which is beyond their usual "vanilla console must make profit" stance (which is really irritating when people point the finger at them for using old hardware, where old is actually afforable).
It's not like just building a box of hardware.
RobTheBuilder wrote:...and are still being made! I cannot buy a set other than a Phillips now!
I think it's a very interesting concept. Rather like the Phillips rear light screens from a few years ago.
You think it is just a superfluous addition, but once you have it, you love it. Having the corner of your front room glow to what is going on screen is fantastically atmospheric. I'm hoping to upgrade to a 3 bar TV sometime soon, with the ambilight only covering the left and right at the moment on my current set.
@Widge ah nice. I didn't know they still made them! Always wanted one..!
@RobTheBuilder In the soundbar thread on here I mention I got scammed. I had "bought" the PFL8007 to replace my set. Got a refund from eBay though.
From what I read on AVF, Philips have all but managed to work out the gremlins on their sets. The PFLX008 series comes out soon so keeping an eye on them, but might pick up a previous gen 8007 if I can. Just one notch below their unobtainable flagship series, it sounds amazing. Even with the caveat of "all TV's mentioned on AVF are fundamentally flawed".
A mate of mine has one, they are actually kind of cool.
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Can confirm, I have a Philips Amiblight telly and when it's dark it's fantastic, the way the lights change to what is on screen is really clever and really adds to the atmosphere, the TV is mounted to a white painted wall which I think helps.
@OptimusPube Mine is in what was a gloomy corner of a front room that was in need of illumination. I got the set on the premise of its excellent SD performance, but was blown away on the first night of use. I think it was some bods "Power Of The Planet" that was on in the evening, some scene had magma on the right and the ocean on the left... orange streaming from the right of the set and blue from the left. Eye wateringly gorgeous. Obviously was rather immersive for the Bioshock Infinite run recently.
I like this projection idea that is being flung around, but I just don't have the room to make that work.
@Widge hope so. It's one of those things I've wanted for years but never had the cash to afford!
Armoured_Bear 15,651 posts
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Just about to post that,
Rare working with Lucid Games on the new racer
Edited by Baihu1983 at 18:30:04 06-05-2013
mal 25,024 posts
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Lucid Dreams? That VG247 refers to them as Lucid Games and that artist who worked on that shot claims to have done work for Lucid Pixel in the past.
FWIW, apart from the pun in that GAF thread title, it's always referred to as Lucid Games as far as I can tell (assuming this Lucid Pixel is something else and just a coincidence).
I can't decide. Reflections and Motorstorm versus Bizarre and Sumo. They've all made racers I love.
@Baihu1983 it would be a good choice of launch title...
MatMan562 3,068 posts
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The idea of a Fallout 4 on next gen consoles excites me way more than it should but apparently that teaser is not for something Bethesda Game Studios are working on. Could be another Obsidian made on maybe? They are working on a next-gen project.
EA have just tweeted that they have the rights to make next gen console and PC Star Wars games. They specifically mention Dice, Visceral and Bioware. I'd like a Battlefront made by Dice, Visceral to finish 1313 and Bioware to make KoTOR 3 please!
Armoured_Bear wrote:All still just rumor and reports but if course it won't, did anyone ever actually think it would?
Durnago will work without internet, have no fear
There is no way either of the next two consoles will enforce that kind of restriction
andijames 2,849 posts
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Plus no word on if it actually registers the game online to you so it can't be sold on.. too much white noise about this at the moment. I really hope the conference they're having clears all this up.
Anyone else notice how Xbox is now Music, Videos and Games in that order?
Is this the future of xbox, games as an afterthought?
nickthegun 65,648 posts
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No, I think its you reading too much into a presentation slide.
Xbox music, videos, games and pies.
Ror 8,653 posts
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Xbox Music and Video are separate services. They're what Zune have been rebranded to.
So what about the pies then?
Everyone knows Xbox is games so it doesn't need saying
Plenty of days will go into every detail of these slides in all likelihood, but in the context of Windows, games probably are less relevant than music and video so that makes sense. However music, video and games should be higher on the list in terms of selling points for Windows 8.
Maybe it was positioned there in the event of a future sell off for xbox (to make room for pies ) so it is at low significance on the slide to appear strategically less important like it could be detached.
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