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  • Latin 20 Mar 2013 12:21:58 3,597 posts
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    I'd imagine they would put a limit on rentals... I.e. to the value of the game. But that's only if I knew these companies weren't massive money sucking arseholes.
  • Khanivor 20 Mar 2013 12:23:49 40,401 posts
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    Can u buy DLC for current rented games? I don't see why the situation would have to change because of the delivery method.

    Late fees are a long-established transaction.
  • Khanivor 20 Mar 2013 12:25:43 40,401 posts
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    And yeah, if you rent the game long enough to have paid the RRP then you're charged no more. Game is yours. One more sale.

    Some crafty deals and that could be a way for Game to replace silly profits from used sales.
  • oceanmotion 20 Mar 2013 12:26:00 15,662 posts
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    I think a more likely approach is getting a time limited session on a full game disc that is already tied to an account then you have the option to buy a license for the full game.

    Used games basically become timed demos and less hassle to download while being instant to install if you end up buying the full license.
  • sanctusmortis 20 Mar 2013 20:12:04 9,627 posts
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    Same caveat as before:

    It's not like someone could just fake those images.
    It's not massively out of date or anything.
    It's all rumour and conjecture until Microsoft make an announcement.

    It just confirms the rumours that existed a year ago. A lot can change!
  • atomicjuicer 20 Mar 2013 22:08:13 299 posts
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    Yep, it reads poorly near the end. The bit about not reading optical and then going on about blu ray.

    Kinect as a required feature and always on are both unlikely.
  • PenguinJim 21 Mar 2013 01:54:46 5,758 posts
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    atomicjuicer wrote:
    Yep, it reads poorly near the end. The bit about not reading optical and then going on about blu ray.
    Exactly. It'll be HD-DVD, obviously.
  • andijames 21 Mar 2013 07:19:41 2,694 posts
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    This could go either way really. If Microsoft react to Sony then they could remove the 'Always On' and 'Block Used Games' caveats from their system OR if they decide to leave them in then Sony could either a) stick to their guns but risk less favourable publisher deals or b) enable their own kind of used games blocking system.

    I'm hoping for the former obviously but you never know.. they're both capable of cluster-fucking this one up royally still.

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  • PenguinJim 21 Mar 2013 07:39:17 5,758 posts
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    I'm surprised no-one's suggested a next-gen warranty. I think Sony have demonstrated that you can stick to your guns with a one-year warranty and get away with it. Even if MS release another fundamentally breakdownable console, they'll know they can stick to one year now.
  • Armoured_Bear 21 Mar 2013 07:40:46 10,292 posts
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    sanctusmortis wrote:
    Same caveat as before:

    It's not like someone could just fake those images.
    It's not massively out of date or anything.
    It's all rumour and conjecture until Microsoft make an announcement.

    It just confirms the rumours that existed a year ago. A lot can change!
    vgleaks have been bang on with everything on PS4 and WiiU so far, this is likely to be the same.

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  • FogHeart 21 Mar 2013 14:06:56 944 posts
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    Just to be pedantic...

    The predator doesn't see in infra-red through special lenses. When he takes off his mask in the first film we see through his eyes and it's still heat vision. But everything 'looks' hotter. This means:-

    - They evolved on a cooler planet than Earth
    - The lenses in the helmet do the equivalent of making everything 'darker'. They're sunglasses.

    Yeah, the Predators are so cool they hunt in shades.
  • ronuds 21 Mar 2013 14:17:09 21,788 posts
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    sanctusmortis wrote:
    Same caveat as before:

    It's not like someone could just fake those images.
    It's not massively out of date or anything.
    It's all rumour and conjecture until Microsoft make an announcement.

    It just confirms the rumours that existed a year ago. A lot can change!
    Yeah, we've been hearing this for a while now. The very first line is "is preliminary and is subject to change," so given that document is a year old means hopefully they've taken their finger out and went the other way with the always-on requirement.

    Not too bothered about needing Kinect. Always-on is a deal breaker, though.
  • oceanmotion 21 Mar 2013 15:11:33 15,662 posts
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    It never mentions always on as DRM for games, just updating. There is zero chance of Microsoft requiring you to be online to play games, to activate, perhaps but offline will be there as always and same as now for digital copies, license on console, can be played offline with no hassle. They won't be that stupid.
  • ronuds 21 Mar 2013 15:27:15 21,788 posts
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    Yeah, it doesn't say you can't play if you're not online - only that it is to your benefit if you are. We'll see.
  • Dirtbox 21 Mar 2013 16:18:01 77,476 posts
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    Nothing to do with MS, it's a publisher choice. Ubisoft, blizzard and EA will shaft you.

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  • ronuds 21 Mar 2013 16:45:40 21,788 posts
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    Good point. No way around it, really.
  • oceanmotion 21 Mar 2013 17:55:59 15,662 posts
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    I think Sony said it's up to publishers, option is there though.

    From what we know of Microsoft wanting full installs and no disc play, that has to be the sensible middle ground that shoots always on DRM in the head for 99% of games and online games at heart.
  • mal 21 Mar 2013 18:59:30 22,340 posts
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    ronuds wrote:
    Good point. No way around it, really.
    Or just boycott Ubi, EA and Blizzard. This generation I think I've only bought one EA game, and a couple of Ubi games I could have done without.

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  • Dirtbox 21 Mar 2013 19:41:11 77,476 posts
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    Yeah, because that works.

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  • oceanmotion 21 Mar 2013 19:48:56 15,662 posts
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    So, they mentioned

    Low latency controller with "improved ergonomics.

    Lower is better but was it bad all this time and any new ideas because they are improving it?

    Not sure how much more comfy they can make the controller, perhaps the shoulder buttons are a little awkward.
  • King_Edward 21 Mar 2013 20:11:38 11,454 posts
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    It's shaped like a pair of bollocks, and you play by fondling your nuts. Nature has shown this is the most ergonomic design there is.
  • mal 21 Mar 2013 20:22:30 22,340 posts
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    There were loads of stories about crap latency at the start of the gen. Granted, a lot of that was because everyone had thrown out their old tellies and bought new HD sets and hadn't figured out the low latency settings on them yet, but still wireless modulation and demodulation is going to add a little extra latency over a fully wired solution.

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  • Razz 25 Mar 2013 22:46:08 60,771 posts
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    Is this the new xbox logo?

    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=529359

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  • Lukus 25 Mar 2013 23:08:21 18,999 posts
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    Razz wrote:
    Is this the new xbox logo?

    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=529359
    I hope not, it's a bit crap. It looks like a Y shedding a tear.

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  • beastmaster 25 Mar 2013 23:25:31 11,190 posts
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    Looks like some kind of medical thing.

    The Resident Evil films. I'm one of the reasons they keep making them.

  • Roddles 25 Mar 2013 23:31:14 1,774 posts
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    Looks like it was photographed mid animation or something.
  • Lukus 25 Mar 2013 23:44:27 18,999 posts
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    Ahh, good point, that would make more sense.

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  • RobTheBuilder 26 Mar 2013 00:25:22 6,521 posts
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    Looks a bit crap still. Type looks cheap.
  • Psychotext 26 Mar 2013 01:02:35 53,849 posts
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    Not convinced that's legit.
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