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  • Deleted user 25 August 2011 00:16:05
    http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobile-games/mobilegamefeatures/1020906/where_now_for_the_sony_ericsson_xperia_play.html

    Found the above article as I was thinking about getting a new phone and as I'm in the market for a PSP or 3DS I figured, kill two birds with one stone.

    Well, perhaps not.

    I was never quite sure how the Xperia Play worked in terms of it being PlayStation and Android. I've yet to see any game reviews on Eurogamer. It seems the phone merely relies upon Android releases being optimized for its particular control scheme. From what I can see there's no first-party support or important exclusives.

    Bizarrely it doesn't connect to PSN so downloading PSone classics and PSP minis is not possible!

    Overall it's a pretty confusing product that doesn't really fit into either camp; it's not a particularly capable Android smartphone, and it offers no advantages over its competitors in mobile gaming other than its control scheme.

    Is it already on its way out?
  • mal 25 Aug 2011 00:27:10 20,471 posts
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    Didn't they just drop the price? Does that answer your question?

    Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!

  • PenguinJim 25 Aug 2011 04:00:10 3,483 posts
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    One thing for which the Xperia should be great is Android's PSX emulator (as well as the SNES, GBA etc).

    "Since the Xperia Play launched, we’ve seen only a handful of 32-bit PlayStation releases and the vast majority of those are games which appeared very early on in the format’s lifespan. We’ve had no Ridge Racer, no Gran Turismo, no Final Fantasy VII and no Castlevania: Symphony of the Night."

    I don't know what the article is talking about, there's an Android PSX emulator and people can play FFVII on their Samsung Galaxies! Or am I missing something? That site really needs to know its mobiles. :/
  • Rhythm 25 Aug 2011 08:37:41 2,042 posts
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    Retroid has one ane AFAIK likes it a lot, but then he's a big emulation fan. All I know is that even though it's smelly Android it has an official Minecraft game available and therefore I want one :-)
  • Deleted user 25 August 2011 12:13:03
    is the emulator legal and available through the android store? sounds like a great alternative - i assume if it's psx then it would be a sony product.
  • kalel 25 Aug 2011 12:16:14 76,426 posts
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    Still born.
  • PenguinJim 25 Aug 2011 15:09:19 3,483 posts
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    I got an Android two days ago, there's a PSX emulator, a SNES emulator, a NES emulator and a GBA emulator that I've seen. I haven't been looking, though - I don't have an Xperia and don't want to faff around with touchscreen-controlled emulated games until I'm bored with the stuff designed for a touchscreen.

    Discovered Game Dev Story this morning. Bam. Seven hours gone.
  • LFMartins 25 Aug 2011 16:10:26 5,704 posts
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    Grand Prix Story is also very good.
  • nickthegun 25 Aug 2011 16:15:47 44,250 posts
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    All they needed to do was stick a 3G chip into a psp go.

    It is a weird one, though. People just wanted a playstation phone. Sony make phones. Sony make the playstation. How hard is it to mash the two together?

    Instead they release something with a stupid name and vaguely defined capabilities into a world where everyone thinks £1.09 is too much for a mobile game.

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  • THFourteen 25 Aug 2011 16:18:58 28,985 posts
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    IIRC Xperia is not even as powerful as a PSP?
  • GuiltySpark 25 Aug 2011 19:41:39 5,906 posts
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    Considering getting one of these primarily for emulators. How well do the emulators do on the Xperia Play? Do the control buttons on the screen disappear now that they are not needed etc etc, hows the speed?

    Get bent.

  • Deleted user 26 August 2011 17:48:26
    THFourteen wrote:
    IIRC Xperia is not even as powerful as a PSP?
    a quick google search suggests it has a superior cpu, gpu and ram to that of the psp, also the screen is a much greater resolution and able to display more colours. however, as it has an operating system and various mobile phone related things to run in the background, the relative power is uncertain and difficult to compare.

    does android require you to create a store account in the same way that itunes does? does that mean you can only use applications that have passed certification and are readily available in the android market?
  • caligari 21 Sep 2011 23:24:28 16,346 posts
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    Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, but Hotukdeals have uncovered a fairly decent deal (who'd have thunk it?) for the Xperia.

    £199.99 delivered from Expansys.

    I've never used these guys before - and you'll have to wait until early October for 'new stock' to arrive - but still, possibly worth a punt?

    I couldn't care less about iPhones / Galaxies (or whatever the hell they're called) etc, but I'm rather tempted by this phone - if only for the emulation goodness.
  • PearOfAnguish 22 Sep 2011 01:09:59 6,575 posts
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    does android require you to create a store account in the same way that itunes does? does that mean you can only use applications that have passed certification and are readily available in the android market?
    Google account is required to access the Market but Android handsets can also install software via an application's .apk file - which can be transferred or downloaded to internal or external memory - so even if something is not on the Android app store it can still be used. The Market can be ignored completely if you choose to do so, hence why Android tablets prior to Honeycomb just about got away with having no (official) Market access.
  • caligari 23 Sep 2011 19:36:15 16,346 posts
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    caligari wrote:
    Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, but Hotukdeals have uncovered a fairly decent deal (who'd have thunk it?) for the Xperia.

    £199.99 delivered from Expansys.

    I've never used these guys before - and you'll have to wait until early October for 'new stock' to arrive - but still, possibly worth a punt?

    I couldn't care less about iPhones / Galaxies (or whatever the hell they're called) etc, but I'm rather tempted by this phone - if only for the emulation goodness.

    I put in an order, but I have plenty of time to cancel - no 'new stock' until early October, apparently.

    Is the phone itself actually any good? Do we have any Xperia owner who'd like to offer their views?
  • uiruki 23 Sep 2011 20:01:08 3,070 posts
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    It's got one of the better single core processors and they're working on a Cyanogen port for it. If you don't have an Android phone already, it's excellent value if you want to head in.
  • caligari 23 Sep 2011 22:29:11 16,346 posts
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    uiruki wrote:
    It's got one of the better single core processors and they're working on a Cyanogen port for it. If you don't have an Android phone already, it's excellent value if you want to head in.
    Thanks, Uiruki.

    I have an ancient mobile phone (ancient in that it's probably around 5 years old).

    I hate mobile phones - I never carry one with me, but it's great as an alarm clock.

    It's the 'emulator' side of things that appeals to me, but then I'm thinking that I could buy a hacked PSP for a quarter of the price. Hmm.
  • DodgyPast 23 Sep 2011 22:57:19 7,860 posts
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    caligari wrote:
    uiruki wrote:
    It's got one of the better single core processors and they're working on a Cyanogen port for it. If you don't have an Android phone already, it's excellent value if you want to head in.
    Thanks, Uiruki.

    I have an ancient mobile phone (ancient in that it's probably around 5 years old).

    I hate mobile phones - I never carry one with me, but it's great as an alarm clock.

    It's the 'emulator' side of things that appeals to me, but then I'm thinking that I could buy a hacked PSP for a quarter of the price. Hmm.
    You posted that link and I was immediately tempted, went through the same thinking process as well ( still using a k800i ).

    My conclusion was that the single CPU aspect meant it would be outdated within another year. Pretty damn tempting, just can't justify it when I already have a hacked PSP.
  • caligari 25 Sep 2011 23:24:46 16,346 posts
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    I...I cancelled.

    /inner turmoil
  • TFM_Excalibur 25 Sep 2011 23:55:01 792 posts
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    caligari wrote:
    caligari wrote:
    Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, but Hotukdeals have uncovered a fairly decent deal (who'd have thunk it?) for the Xperia.

    £199.99 delivered from Expansys.

    I've never used these guys before - and you'll have to wait until early October for 'new stock' to arrive - but still, possibly worth a punt?

    I couldn't care less about iPhones / Galaxies (or whatever the hell they're called) etc, but I'm rather tempted by this phone - if only for the emulation goodness.

    I put in an order, but I have plenty of time to cancel - no 'new stock' until early October, apparently.

    Is the phone itself actually any good? Do we have any Xperia owner who'd like to offer their views?
    It's a decent enough handset, especially for £200, if you are buying it specifically for mobile gaming, just buy a psp....

    It's fairly quick and responsive once it's been updated and the like, it's not the quickest of handsets out the box...
  • caligari 4 Oct 2011 18:46:09 16,346 posts
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    Now available for £155 delivered.

    Is it possible to get some of the slightly more obscure PS1 games to run on this phone - Ico, Vib Ribbon, Alundra etc?
  • Widge Moderator 4 Oct 2011 21:48:09 10,450 posts
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    Ico?

    www.shadigital.com

  • meme 4 Oct 2011 21:56:05 15,320 posts
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    FYI, they extracted the official PSX emulator from the bundled Crash Bandicoot, which is optimised specifically for the Xperia Play. So best to look for that one rather than the Android Marketplace emulator.

    Info (but no links) here - http://limitlessdroid.com/2011/08/10/xperia-play-emulator-reverse-engineered-to-play-custom-isos/

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  • neilka 4 Oct 2011 21:56:57 11,923 posts
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    Widge wrote:
    Ico?
    So obscure it doesn't exist.

    if you have nothing intresting to say then you might as well just throw your bags on the truck and drive away

  • Load_2.0 4 Oct 2011 22:02:52 14,545 posts
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    Where is it £155?

    Hmmmmm might get one, could do with a new phone.

  • caligari 5 Oct 2011 19:06:46 16,346 posts
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    neilka wrote:
    Widge wrote:
    Ico?
    So obscure it doesn't exist.
    Hah, Jaysus - it seems like so long ago that I was convinced that Ico was PS1 and that Colossus was its PS2 sequel.

    Let us not forget that it was ALMOST a PS1 release. :)

    @ Load_2.0 - Hotukdeals told me - £154.99 from a site called Chitter Chatter (no, I've never heard of them either). Argos were also selling it for around £165.00, but it's out of stock across the whole country at the mo.
  • Widge Moderator 8 Oct 2011 15:48:35 10,450 posts
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    I read on Joystiq that Sony are going to buy out Erricsson so that they fully own their mobile branch.

    Could be an indication of a more stable and consistent phone offering. Suite added as standard to all Sony Android products etc.

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  • DodgyPast 8 Oct 2011 16:21:19 7,860 posts
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    This sudden attempt to clear all their stock combined with the Erricsson buyout makes me hopeful that there will be a more powerful version coming round the corner.

    If something could deliver GC / Wii emulation with usable controls I'll buckle pretty quickly.
  • Widge Moderator 8 Oct 2011 16:59:19 10,450 posts
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    I want to move to Android away from iPhone.

    If they can deliver PSP games and maybe PS2 ones, that would be awesome.

    www.shadigital.com

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