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  • graysonavich 4 Dec 2012 17:16:36 4,159 posts
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    If there's a thread on reddit, will it stay in reddit?
  • Rusty_M 4 Dec 2012 17:16:37 3,603 posts
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    Oh for fuck's sake! If that dog pisses in the flat again, I'll...
    Well I don't know what I'll do, but I'll probably be in trouble with the SSPCA!

    The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine.

  • cheeky_prawnking 4 Dec 2012 17:49:25 2,665 posts
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    Are they the Nazi ones?
  • Rusty_M 4 Dec 2012 18:45:25 3,603 posts
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    They're the Scottish ones ya bloody sassenach! :D

    Edited by Rusty_M at 18:45:39 04-12-2012

    The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine.

  • jonsaan 4 Dec 2012 19:01:51 24,217 posts
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    Is it a puppy rusty?

    FCUTA!

  • Rusty_M 4 Dec 2012 19:23:01 3,603 posts
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    Nope. It's a 11 year old Jack Russell who is really spiteful. She knows to ask outside, but I think she's too lazy to want to go downstairs. It's getting tempting to throw her out of the window.

    The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine.

  • localnotail 4 Dec 2012 20:12:15 21,447 posts
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    I have this problem with one of my cats. He does it when he is pissed off about something. He knows it annoys us. I don't know how to stop him. We are currently taking him to the scene of the crime and spraying him with a plant mister, but we are still finding new spots on a weekly basis. At least it doesn't smell too bad since he's neutered.

    Playing all the right notes— but not necessarily in the right order.

  • localnotail 4 Dec 2012 20:18:44 21,447 posts
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    Some days (like when I've had to wash the curtains twice in a week), I daydream about leaving the front door open and letting him have an accident :(
    He's been like this for 3 years, it's been pretty bad since the baby arrived. He pisses on her stuff. Yesterday he pissed on Mr Local's leg because he was hungry and hadn't been fed yet.
    I love him, he's sat on my lap right now, but he's the worst cat I've ever had. Terrible issues.

    Playing all the right notes— but not necessarily in the right order.

  • Nexus_6 4 Dec 2012 20:49:21 3,505 posts
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    This wee guy on masterchef just now looks like some bizarre combination of Rory Macellroy and Ralf Little - alarming...
  • kickerconspiracy 5 Dec 2012 01:42:57 495 posts
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    Snail is critically hit by Garlic Butter Of Greater Vexing.
  • altitude2k 5 Dec 2012 20:06:23 1,262 posts
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    Dallas Campbell is basically that freaky alien at the end of the credits in classic Star Trek.

    Discuss.
  • RelaxedMikki 5 Dec 2012 20:42:25 753 posts
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    LeoliansBro is right about the Monty Hall problem. It works because the host knows what's in the boxes and removes a losing box. If you've got either of the two goats initially then switching gets you the car.

    I think about it like this:

    If you don't switch you can only win if you chose the car initially (1/3 chance of winning)
    If you do switch you can only loose if you chose the car initially (2/3 chance of winning)

    It's hard to explain why we get confused by it though. It is confusing. But not easy to explain why.
  • meme 5 Dec 2012 20:55:09 15,413 posts
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    RelaxedMikki wrote:
    It's hard to explain why we get confused by it though. It is confusing. But not easy to explain why.
    Because the human mind is hardwired to make sense of chaos but also chaos of sense. Our very nature of wanting to know specifics means once those specifics are presented to us we sometimes reject them simply so we can continue the search.

    I'm writing a paper on this very issue right now, even referencing Monty Hall.

    (fact - pigeons comprehend it quicker than humans)

    GHOSTBUSTERS

  • darkmorgado 5 Dec 2012 21:00:26 22,556 posts
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    meme wrote:
    RelaxedMikki wrote:
    It's hard to explain why we get confused by it though. It is confusing. But not easy to explain why.
    Because the human mind is hardwired to make sense of chaos but also chaos of sense. Our very nature of wanting to know specifics means once those specifics are presented to us we sometimes reject them simply so we can continue the search.

    I'm writing a paper on this very issue right now, even referencing Monty Hall.

    (fact - pigeons comprehend it quicker than humans)
    For some reason this made me think of how conspiracy theorists reject even the most logical explanation so they can keep up the search for "the truth".

    Now with 80% more Cthulhu!

  • RelaxedMikki 5 Dec 2012 21:06:54 753 posts
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    I think one of the reasons it confuses us is that implies a kind of backwards causality (i.e. We resist the idea that the host's actions can influence the value of a the box we have already chosen...)
  • cubbymoore 5 Dec 2012 21:10:13 35,431 posts
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    David Brubeck 1920 - 2012 R.I.P.

  • meme 5 Dec 2012 21:14:03 15,413 posts
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    There's also some element of gut instinct in there, in that more people go with superstition or instinct over raw probability, and the overriding gut feeling is that "two boxes are left therefore it's 50/50", and that there's a quasi-bias for our initial selections because people don't want to perceive that initial response as "wrong".

    It's quite interesting how utterly ass-backwards, irrational and illogical human reasoning actually is.

    GHOSTBUSTERS

  • RelaxedMikki 5 Dec 2012 22:16:05 753 posts
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    Optical Illusions
  • Mr-Brett 5 Dec 2012 22:41:07 11,486 posts
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    darkmorgado wrote:
    meme wrote:
    RelaxedMikki wrote:
    It's hard to explain why we get confused by it though. It is confusing. But not easy to explain why.
    Because the human mind is hardwired to make sense of chaos but also chaos of sense. Our very nature of wanting to know specifics means once those specifics are presented to us we sometimes reject them simply so we can continue the search.

    I'm writing a paper on this very issue right now, even referencing Monty Hall.

    (fact - pigeons comprehend it quicker than humans)
    For some reason this made me think of how conspiracy theorists reject even the most logical explanation so they can keep up the search for "the truth".
    It's also worth bearing in mind how much people hate admitting that they were wrong about something. I recommend the book Mistakes Were Made (but Not by Me) to anyone interested in the subject.

    Please don't use the delete button, think of the children.

  • X201 5 Dec 2012 23:00:29 13,026 posts
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    RelaxedMikki wrote:
    LeoliansBro is right about the Monty Hall problem. It works because the host knows what's in the boxes and removes a losing box. If you've got either of the two goats initially then switching gets you the car.

    I think about it like this:

    If you don't switch you can only win if you chose the car initially (1/3 chance of winning)
    If you do switch you can only loose if you chose the car initially (2/3 chance of winning)

    It's hard to explain why we get confused by it though. It is confusing. But not easy to explain why.
    An easier way of explaining Monty Hall is with 999,999 goats and 1 car.

    At the start you have a 1 in 1000000 chance of picking the car.
    If you remove a goat each round until you are down to 2 goats and the car you end up with
    your initial choice which still has odds of 1 in 1000000 or the switch with odds of 2/3
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    I'm convinced I could go on a masked machine gun spree at work and get away with it. No-one would know...
  • warlockuk 6 Dec 2012 12:53:45 18,614 posts
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    Mr-Brett wrote:
    darkmorgado wrote:
    For some reason this made me think of how conspiracy theorists reject even the most logical explanation so they can keep up the search for "the truth".
    It's also worth bearing in mind how much people hate admitting that they were wrong about something. I recommend the book Mistakes Were Made (but Not by Me) to anyone interested in the subject.
    Like "I'm not a asshole, I'm disabled"? :D

    I'm a grumpy bastard.

  • glaeken 6 Dec 2012 13:01:32 10,366 posts
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    I think with the Monty hall thing you have people thinking it's 50/50 and with that the thought that you would hate to swap and then find out you were indeed right all along. I don't think it's about admitting you were wrong as much as it's about kicking yourself for swapping away from a correct answer.

    Just think of it this way if you did swap away and it turned out you had picked correctly first time that would be more annoying than just not having ever had it right. As most people think it's a 50/50 chance this is why the vast majority of people will not swap from their first choice. This has been backed up in a number of experiments.

    Edited by glaeken at 13:02:04 06-12-2012
  • LeoliansBro 6 Dec 2012 13:05:55 35,095 posts
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    I reckon there's a lot of truth to that. If people think it's 50/50 they'l stick with their first choice so as not to look indecisive, or make a decision they could regret.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • RedSparrows 6 Dec 2012 13:07:32 16,986 posts
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    Does anyone ever get it when their imagination constantly wanders off to a recentish sexual encounter (not with their partner - not in an affair sense, but say last person before yer gf or w/e) and it's really bloody annoying, and you wonder why that one is sticking in your head?

    Cos of course, there's loads to choose from...
  • guts 6 Dec 2012 13:38:24 1,668 posts
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    Missing working on lifting gear today. Could really do with being half under a scissor lift 'repairing' the hydraulics when really I would be having an hours kip.

    Whassamattayou, whyoulookasosad, itsanicaplace, itsanotsobad, heyshaddupayourface.

  • mikeck 6 Dec 2012 14:18:59 1,558 posts
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    localnotail wrote:

    He's been like this for 3 years, it's been pretty bad since the baby arrived. He pisses on her stuff.
    That would be the final straw for me. It's hard though I know, especially for a pet you've had for years and do love.
  • Deckard1 6 Dec 2012 14:51:46 18,047 posts
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    Yeah we had to get my granddad put down for pretty much the same thing.
  • Bremenacht 6 Dec 2012 14:56:52 11,167 posts
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    Did he shit outside the box?

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  • ronuds 6 Dec 2012 14:59:48 20,509 posts
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    Anyone used or know someone who has used the electronic cigarette to quit regular cigs?

    I'm wondering if it would be an adequate replacement. My biggest issue smoking is when I play games. I could go through a pack in like 4 hours, but otherwise I don't smoke much at all!

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